If I look at pictures I can't help noticing it seems so much easier for asian men to become very beautiful women.  Sometimes much more beautiful than 'real' women.

I am caucasian and I think it's much harder for us.

It's mostly from the more primitive skeletal structure, made to withstand the skool of hard knocks. :|

Quote from: Kaeren on February 15, 2010, 12:08:46 PM
If I look at pictures I can't help noticing it seems so much easier for asian men to become very beautiful women.  Sometimes much more beautiful than 'real' women.

I am caucasian and I think it's much harder for us.

Maybe sometimes... if they are surrounded by people who are taller and bigger boned.  But they have it about the same when they are surrounded by other Asian people.

I know that some of us have bigger physical hurdles to overcome but the biggest hurdle seems to be in our minds and there seem to be only two options, thinking we are trans or males who want to be female but never will, and thinking that we have to be "stealth" and spend the rest of our lives lying to everyone.  Neither of those seem to be good options.

My hands are too big, my voice isn't the greatest.  I am relatively tall, with broad shoulders...  But I have found that getting away from people who knew me from before, avoiding people who Know I transitioned, forming new relationships with people who don't know. And making a New Start as a female becomes it's own reality.  Then instead of thinking about being a woman I find myself busy being a woman, I don't think about things like I am typing about right now and by being in the head-space of a woman, by just accepting myself as a woman, not by thinking about it (or mentally wrestling with it), but by getting on with life after transition...

I have become and am whole and that will cause you to "pass" better than anything else or shall I say it is the "crux" of it all.

They have racially very similar structures and simpler foreheads in many areas whereas the Caucasoid and Negroid subspecies have divergent morphologies. That said, the differences are still there to see (very plainly if you happen to be of that particular asian's region) and their voices are much more of a problem for them as they have females around them who by culture, tend to speak in high pitches which can't readily be imitated by *any* male-sex-born-and-went-through-and-puberty-at-all persons. Easy and hard are simply relativistic measuring sticks.

We are who we are and that's just that. We look like exactly what we feel more-so than what we *are* per se in my experience.

yup asian men are shorter and less hairy than their caucasian counterparts in general but that's about it. even with the familiar 'they all look alike' experience you can still tell a guy from a girl at first glance, so that alone says a lot how 'easy' it is for asian mtf to transit...

I'm asian. I am tall (5'11), I have big hands, and broad shoulders, and a deep voice.

My torso is less hairy, but my face and legs are hairy. Many asian MTFs flaunt what they have and the popular media focuses on them a lot.

You also have to understand many asian girls tend to have smaller shoulders than the norm. In that sense, from the caucasian perspective, yes... asian men do have smaller shoulders in relative terms when comparing between races, but when comparing asian girls and asian guys, there's a huge difference in some instances.

ya i agree the general population of asian guys are as you described, but there's also a minority that look so fem girls will envy them...i say it's the relative percentage of this minority that is higher than the caucasian population..

I have heard that there is bit me female hormone in the water of thailand . May be thats the reason .

Well I live here in Thailand, and my answer is no. Yes there are some very beautiful Ts around here, but most struggle whit the same things that we Caucasians do.

Many have FS surgery and BA even if they have started in a very young age whit hormones, they are sold over the counter here, they are still clocked when compared to a natal women. Big hands, feet, shoulders  and deeper voice.

But living in Thai culture gives you the advantage of a more tolerant community. You don't have to fear for hate crimes ect.

In all western country, as far as I know, you can change your gender mark after SRS. and  even get married. Its impossible out here for a Ts.

In many ways I think they have it harder than we do. Most of them comes from a very poor family, and there only option is to work in the sex industry. if they want any kind of surgery.

Ps English is not my first language