I love sparkly things, prefer having long hair (although it's short right now ):, usually wear gender neutral or women's clothing, knit, hate sports and athletic things (except I watch figure skating), paint my nails, most of my friends are girls, don't drink beer, like the menfolk, listen to Lady Gaga and the like, the list goes on.  A list of gender steretypes I fit would be a lot shorter.

I see so much variation in people, I'm really having trouble nailing down what the definative male stereotype is even supposed to be! I hear and read things, but I just don't often see those characteristics in the men I speak to.

The only real stereotypes I see are when people intentionally catagorize themselves to conform to some "subcultural guidelines" - and even then (I'd like to think) most people grow beyond that.

I have absolutely no idea if I fit "the stereotype" or not (or to what degree). For all I know, I could be a living stereotype. I try not to concern myself with it. Going out of my way not to conform to a stereotype seems just as unforfilling as deliberately conforming to a stereotype.

Don't get me wrong - there are other men out there I look up to, and aspects I admire (and try to cultivate in myself). But I'm not about to take an array of those aspects from someone (or some stereotype) and emulate them as-is, as an inseperable set, and without thinking about why.

I actually do kind of fit a stereotype, it's just not one that North America recognizes. ^_^
I tend heavily towards feminine things, and my personality is feminine in a lot of regards. But I do have more masculine elements as well.

Femininity-wise? I'm tempted to start quoting Otomen and Kashimashi (which is a sign right there).
I like cute, shiny, fluffy, sparkly things (not necessarily all at once, there's very few of those). Love stories, upbeat songs, flowers... I can also go really emotional at times, especially in romantic matters. I try to look as femininely cute as possible (including incorporating girls' clothes into outfits here and there), and I also use way too many smilies. ^_^

On the other hand, I hang around arcades playing racing and shooter games. I buy and build Gundam models. I'm pretty good at computer programming. I have an interest in cars (though I don't know that much about them at present). I can shove nearly every emotion into the background and run on pure, ruthless logic. And though I don't subscribe to the 'aggression makes a man' idea, if you lay a hand on my girlfriend, I will break it off at the wrist.

Basically I'm a ball of contradictions, if indeed you believe that these two sets of things cannot exist at the same time.
(Lots of people would be surprised how many of these attributes are not actually diametrically opposite each other.)

I find that too many people are willing to define themselves by what they're not. For example, is there very much more to the masculine stereotype than not being effeminate? Any one of the things I mentioned in my 'girl's section' above is enough to get your 'man card' revoked. (Try revoking mine; I never applied for it, ha!) When you define yourself by what you're not, then you give all title to your identity to someone else. They can change who you are, without your input, by changing who they are. Why people do that is what I don't really understand...

I love to shop, especially for jewelry and clothes.

I love singing along to music I listen to, which can vary from Metallica to Porter Wagner

I paint my nails all the time

I enjoy shopping for make-up (Goth make-up)

I'm sure there's a few other things...but those are the ones that came to mind

Oh yeah. And if I watch something sad on TV or in a video game, I'll cry. I try to hide it, but if it gets too much I'll just cry

I have alot of ear piercings. Which is starting to become more accepted among males anyhow.

I wear gothic make up sometimes, which is also more accepted in today's society, in males.

I have a love/hate relationship with shopping.

My emotions are starting to swing more the male way, suddenly. For what reason, I don't know. But I have my sensitive moments. Then again, that's only a gender stereotype in closed minded people's eyes, cause I know plenty of sensitive men.

But I really have more male tendencies than anything. I could probably count my female tendencies on one hand.

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Quote from: kyril on March 30, 2010, 07:37:23 PM
And when I've been on T a little bit and have had top surgery, one of the first things I'm going to do post-op is buy a tight pink shirt and skinny jeans and wear them out to a club, and I don't care who knows it!

hells yes! Me too

I'm sensitive to other people's feelings - empathetic streak a mile wide.
I believe that whoever invented the myth that men shouldn't cry needs to be slapped back into the stone age If I need to cry, I'll do it.
I love crushed velvet. I so want one of those poet shirts in black or burgundy. ..Ah yes, clothes. My preferred style is actually romantic goth, but obviously I can't pull that off right now.
I'm also deep and creative, but there are quite a few blokes out there like that. I'm related to two and live with another two (certainly the deep part) But then I hate stereotypes, full stop.

I'm an emotional, feminine, artistic sort of a boy, even at my full 6'2 height.
I don't like sports, I find cars "pretty" but would be lost if it broke down on me, and I don't drink beer, at all, ever, cause it makes me feel ill.
I knit, I like to do make-up for friends or my daughter, I'm a great cook and I Love Love Love the chocolate.

I have some bits that you could consider "conform with gender steriotype" though.
I like digging 'round in the garden, getting muddy.
I repair the furniture and the electronics around the house.
I'd never put on a shirt during warm days if I didn't have the chesticles.

etc. etc. etc..

I'm "me".
Nothing more, nothing less.

I loath football with a burning passion, come to think of it. I loath any form of sport lol.

I dont like beer.

Most of my friends are girls.

Ive never seen the god father

Hmm yeah, like everyone else here I'm a bit mixed. I'm stereotypically male in quite a few ways, I like sports, (though I'm not particularly good at them, ) prefer action movies to chick flicks, hate shopping with a burning passion, etc. But, on the other hand, I certainly have characteristics more commonly thought of as girly. I like cooking, (but then, so does my dad,) I'm pretty artsy/creative, and I think I display my emotions more than most boys do. Not to mention that when I was younger, I was pretty girly, wore dresses, liked dolls, etc. But on the other hand, I was never not allowed to "act like a boy" at the same time, so I never really felt the need to be one or the other as a little kid, which I'm grateful for.
I think when it comes down to it, most "normal" biological guys/girls don't fit these stereotypes any better than us.

Excluding that though, the rest fits the stereo type i suppose.
Because i know loooads who dont all fit it, i think its rare if they do lol.
That goes for CIS aswell

Quote from: Luna! on April 03, 2010, 02:58:10 AM
I actually do kind of fit a stereotype, it's just not one that North America recognizes. ^_^
I tend heavily towards feminine things, and my personality is feminine in a lot of regards. But I do have more masculine elements as well.

Femininity-wise? I'm tempted to start quoting Otomen and Kashimashi (which is a sign right there).
I like cute, shiny, fluffy, sparkly things (not necessarily all at once, there's very few of those). Love stories, upbeat songs, flowers... I can also go really emotional at times, especially in romantic matters. I try to look as femininely cute as possible (including incorporating girls' clothes into outfits here and there), and I also use way too many smilies. ^_^

On the other hand, I hang around arcades playing racing and shooter games. I buy and build Gundam models. I'm pretty good at computer programming. I have an interest in cars (though I don't know that much about them at present). I can shove nearly every emotion into the background and run on pure, ruthless logic. And though I don't subscribe to the 'aggression makes a man' idea, if you lay a hand on my girlfriend, I will break it off at the wrist.

Basically I'm a ball of contradictions, if indeed you believe that these two sets of things cannot exist at the same time.
(Lots of people would be surprised how many of these attributes are not actually diametrically opposite each other.)

I find that too many people are willing to define themselves by what they're not. For example, is there very much more to the masculine stereotype than not being effeminate? Any one of the things I mentioned in my 'girl's section' above is enough to get your 'man card' revoked. (Try revoking mine; I never applied for it, ha!) When you define yourself by what you're not, then you give all title to your identity to someone else. They can change who you are, without your input, by changing who they are. Why people do that is what I don't really understand...

You sound like the awesome bishy otaku friend I wish I had in high school :3

One of the major reasons I value the fandom culture is because it does give more room for variances of gender and sexuality, and the anime/manga/etc. fan culture is a shining example of that. My first role models of powerful, creative people who didn't fit the gender binary were all from things I found in otaku culture: visual kei music, yaoi and sci fi manga, and so on. I love that gender variance is actually valued in these spaces. Much as I might laugh at certain parts of fandom, that aspect never gets old.

Now, then, I must get dressed and go to WonderCon! 

How am I not like gender stereotypes...I really couldn't tell you. I can't even tell you which ones I conform to on either side of the gender spectrum, just like anyone I'm a melting pot of contradictory habits, emotions and mannerisms. Being human is to not make sense, using cold ruthless logic to determine the right choice and then doing exactly the opposite because it feels right. I embrace the fact I'm just me and love the chaotic nature of who I am because a stereotype is a merely way of labelling people without bothering to understand them.

I hate beer.
I don't understand anything Sci-fi, except Lost. Does that even count as Sci-fi?
I love Americas Next Top Model, especially the arguments.
I couldn't care less about flashy cars, I'd rather just have an ordinary car.
I like clothes shopping, now that I can actually browse the menswear without getting funny looks.
I probably have more products(soaps, moisturisers, deodorants, hair stuff, etc) than most women.

i see emotion in people thats' generally overlooked. [odd, cause i'm usually rather distant]
i like COLORR

eh i'm sure there's more...

Quote from: pebbles on March 30, 2010, 01:28:59 PMSo to you guys how are you not like what is stereotypically expected of your desired gender role?

Are you addressing FtM only? As the opposite, MtF, I do not consider myself "typical" in the least and which, to my mind at least, is the whole point of being able to freely express myself at all!

I don't think anything in particular was meant by the 'guys' reference; some people just speak like that...
Certainly enough MtFs have answered by now that it's ok for anyone to, anyway. ^_^

I am unapologetically a stereotypical female.
In fact, I thoroughly enjoy almost everything about the female stereotype.
On top of that, I see absolutely nothing wrong with embracing my stereotypical behaviour.
It's who I am.

I love to read books, especially romance novels. I love "chick flicks." I'm totally into shows like One Tree Hill and The L Word. I'm overly emtional and my voice gets high pitch when I get flustered. I seriously sound like a 14 year old boy who's going through puberty.

Quote from: casorce on April 05, 2010, 09:47:03 PM
I am unapologetically a stereotypical female.
In fact, I thoroughly enjoy almost everything about the female stereotype.
On top of that, I see absolutely nothing wrong with embracing my stereotypical behaviour.
It's who I am.

This ^

Quote from: casorce on April 05, 2010, 09:47:03 PM
On top of that, I see absolutely nothing wrong with embracing my stereotypical behaviour.
It's who I am.

I agree, there's absolutely nothing wrong with embracing a stereotype if you do happen to fit into it. It's just a shame when people are forced into stereotypes in order to be accepted.