Do you think it's realistic to consider to become beautiful by 21'ish, like just beautiful. Not even most GGs are really beautiful, except select few.

Let's say I have $100,000 to buy anything I want (I don't know how to get that money), but let's just say it. And I can all the surgeries needed, and defining ones to perfect every detail. And the hormones been going for 2 years or so by then.... and I had my name changed. And I am just ready for the world.

My feet are size 9.5, I'm 5'75, and my hands are kind of small-medium for a guy. My neck is long , and my shoulders slope downwards a bit. I don't know if I could ever get a very feminine body....

This is the body I want to resemble. And I want a face that equals her body... Is this even realistic???

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/109/l_7d12cdac31a1487cb9817232f910d11a.jpg
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/107/l_7fa0b137c176447fbf6abfeeac4675da.jpg
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/96/l_b480a3b0fc5244fbbab35e2042effebf.jpg

And I do not want to look like a beautiful transsexual, but look like a beautiful GG.

like this transsexual woman
http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/uu333/jessicafox2009/325.jpg

Unlikely, since you said yourself that even few born women are that beautiful.

well they don't usually try at it with every surgery in the book, and lose weight and maintain a figure, and remain healthy, and do everything possible to become beautiful

if every woman tried to be as beautiful then probably most women are good looking (and men)

Personally, I don't find any of those women beautiful.
Conventionally attractive in a relatively Hollywood way? Sure, but not beautiful.
The kind of look they have can easily be bought.

Like Sarah Burge?

http://www.reallifebarbie.com/

Yeah, you pretty much said it yourself. Few GGs are super-beautiful (and the ones that do tend to work at it a lot), so it's a low-probability thing. There is also the possibility that should you get to a really high level, it will be fairly obvious that you've had some work done; beauty only goes so far without modification, and people generally recognize that. Of course, if you don't care about that, then it's not as relevant.

Setting high goals is fine; there is usually some non-zero chance of success regardless of what you're going for. Some measure of progress is very likely whatever your situation is, so if you think you really want to, go ahead; the only guarantee of failure is lack of trying, after all. But don't beat yourself up if you can't quite make it. Take pride in the smaller steps and don't rush it, because no one can get there all at once.

Quote from: SilverFang on April 05, 2010, 10:58:50 PM
Like Sarah Burge?

http://www.reallifebarbie.com/

She's beautiful for her age. I wouldn't mind looking like that at that age, but I rather not have her face at any age. It's not the sex appeal I want, but classic beauty.

I don't want to be super HOT beautiful, but just naturally beautiful looking. It's kind of hard to explain because there's different definitions of beauty.

Brigitte Bardot is probably the best example. But not Pamela Anderson. I don't want huge breast, big lips, big hips. I want a small slim body, with a small waist, and normal proportional breast with a beautiful face.

http://www.doctormacro.com/Images/Bardot,%20Brigitte/Annex/Annex%20-%20Bardot,%20Brigitte%20%28Truth,%20The%29_01.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Kerli.jpg

All beautiful women have to work to maintain what nature gave them, and the older they are, the harder they have to work. But they start from the base level of being exceptionally pretty genetic females. From a TS point of view, the younger you are and the cuter you are (and some young males can be very girly-cute: think a young Johnny Depp) the easier it will be.

Then you get another kind of girl who may not be pretty to begin with but deliberately, almost ruthlessly uses every trick of make-up, hairstyling, diet and surgery to create the impression of sexiness. Think of the way that a plain, brunette New York girl called Stephani. Turned herself into the knowing parody of blonde sex-bomb Lady Gaga. It is much easier for a TS girl to become that kind of hottie ... tho it veers perilously close to the drag-queen look.

If you really want to know what's possible, the simplest way is to go online and check out the most expensive pre-op TS callgirls. Some of them are stunningly pretty (tho the photography has a lot to do with it). More of them have an artificial beauty ... But those proportions hold good for gg's too.

Good luck with your dream ... But be prepared to accept that for most trans-women it is just that: a dream. And, to repeat the point, remember that real beauty is just a dream for most XX-chromosome girls in the world, too.

Err, well, the point about Sarah Burge was that (if it does not say on her site) she has gotten at least $200,000 dollars worth of cosmetic surgery (over 100 procedures) to make herself "a Barbie."

It's less effective when I have to explain.

only real life barbie I know of is Angie Harmon.

Beauty is matter of opinion. You would have to define your idea of beautiful in order to figure out if you can become that or even if you really want to.

Quote from: LordKAT on April 06, 2010, 01:07:07 AMYou would have to define your idea of beautiful in order to figure out if you can become that or even if you really want to.

Haha, that's a good point. Lots of women I find beautiful, does not mean I want to be a beautiful woman. Although I kind of doubt this is a concern for the OP.

You're not going to be "naturally beautiful looking" as you put it with all that surgery. As others have mentioned, the more you have done, the more obvious it is. Every girl wants to be beautiful, but you should concentrate more on looking like yourself.

it depends on your luck on how your body build is.

Easier to add than remove (size, like remove hand size, feet size, shoulder size. Add hip size, breast size).

Face is SO EXTREMELY changeable nowdays, unless it's really manly.

But I dunno, what are you looking for O_o it's mostly about luck I guess and then if you want you can put surgery to work it out from there.

Is your avatar you?

Neither of the girls you posted are that beautiful.  A lot of that is photography/photoshop/makeup tricks.  Even with that going on, the blonde girl is kinda short and dumpy and definitely nowhere near as beautiful and iconic as a Bridgette Bardot.

Like most have said, the more surgery you have done the more obvious it is that you've had it done.  I would just work with what nature gave you and learn to accept yourself and your own style/beauty.

Though if you have 100,000 dollars in expendable income, do what you want.  Money in and of itself can make you look pretty good. 

Physical beauty is highly over rated, for one thing it fades as you age. For another what looks beautiful to one will be unattractive to another and it's just typical luck that you would do all the work to become a big busted blonde haired blue eyed pin up only to find that you fall for a guy who prefers a flat chested boyish looking women!

I think better to concentrate on looking attractive in your own unique way whilst having a gentleness, generosity and beauty of spirit which will last.

Quote from: SarahFaceDoom on April 06, 2010, 02:36:21 AM
Neither of the girls you posted are that beautiful.  A lot of that is photography/photoshop/makeup tricks.  Even with that going on, the blonde girl is kinda short and dumpy and definitely nowhere near as beautiful and iconic as a Bridgette Bardot.

Like most have said, the more surgery you have done the more obvious it is that you've had it done.  I would just work with what nature gave you and learn to accept yourself and your own style/beauty.

Though if you have 100,000 dollars in expendable income, do what you want.  Money in and of itself can make you look pretty good.

yeah lol, money can do anything. I don't have any, but whatever.

I guess I have bad taste in beauty lol, since I think that 1st blonde would be ideal of ideals. Brigitte Bardot would be like a second ideal.

she's a singer, Kerli

The true beauty that makes life enjoyable is not beauty of the body but beauty in the spirit and the soul. A beautiful girl actually has a hardship in that people relate to her superficially but a nice looking girl with an up-beat, cheery and friendly personality will always be surrounded by friends who value her for herself. That makes a world of difference as physical beauty fades with age.

I was never a stunning beauty but definitely "cute" and it has always been my personality that people love. 36 years after the fact, I am holding together well for a 61 year old but I have definitely aged - that has had no effect on the number of friends I have (though wolf whistles are not so common any more LOL!)

$100 worth of makeup every 6 months can make up for a $10000 procedure.

Eventually you learn to stop worrying and love the blemish.

Ehhh.... this just totally sucks. I was all hype in being a woman, then it all came crashing down when reality set in, that I probably never will be beautiful. I probably will be passable, but really I cannot afford to get that 100 k surgeries, and I probably will never fix my hands and shoulder sizes.

Well the feeling of being a woman passed again, so I probably won't visit again until that feeling comes again.