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Started by Trey, April 14, 2010, 09:14:25 PM

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Trey

I'm not asking this question to offend or anger anyone. I am just curious.

I recently saw a video on youtube where a gay person asked the gay community if they would choose to be straight if they had a choice. Say there was some kind of safe, free, perminant way to turn straight, would you? Because being gay isn't a choice, but if you had a choice now what would you choose?

That guy got me thinking.

If there was a way to not be trans anymore would you take it?

Say it was simple and painless and then you were changed forever, even if you've already started medical transition and are on T. If you could change your brain to be happy with the female body you were born with and no longer have a male brain or desire to have a male body and change your body. If you could just live as a women and be happy that way, would you?

My answer.

I feel that the answer for myself is yes, i would if i could. Because being trans has brought me so much discrimination and it makes my life so difficult. It would be easier for me to just think and feel as a female and not be a trans guy anymore. Although it would be rather crazy to suddenly start being a women, i think it would be nice to not have to worry about trans issues and be more accepted by society.


I appologise if my question or answer offends anymone. Everyone is different and that is why i would like to know your oppinion to educate myself and maybe change or support my own feelings about what i would choose. I feel like it's wrong to say i would be a cis-gender women. But honestly, i think i would.



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TheOtherSide

No. I love being trans. It's hard as hell but I've gain so much insight through this experience. I never believed in God until I decided to transition. Each day my faith grows. Being trans is my cross that I have to carry. Having a cross to carry is a gift.


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kyle_lawrence

No offense taken... but I would say no.   

I've been lucky enough to grow up in a liberal hippie town where pretty much anything goes, and have lots of great supportive friends, so I really don't see it as something that needs to be "cured". Maybe 5 years ago I would have jumped at the chance, but now, being trans/ androgyne is so much of who I am, that I couldn't imagine not being trans. If I was suddenly a normal female (whatever that means...) I wouldn't know what to do.   

I think eventually it just becomes a part of your identity, whether you want it to be or not. I'll take being a quirky confusing dude over conforming any day.
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Nicky

I think carrying a cross is a burden.

In some ways the question is a tricky one because how could you not take it if you knew you would be happy? It would seem illogical not too.

But for me, being transgendered is such a powerful force that has shaped who I am. I would not be me without it. I would be someone else, a guy called nicholas. I also don't believe a happy life is definitly a good life. I think a good life is a life full of happyness and sadness and trials and success and failures etc...Definitly my life is very full as a trans person. 
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Megan

Yes.

(Oh and no for the gay thing, I like being gay.)
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Martin

No. Definitely no, though I can't fully explain why. Mainly because I completely agree with Nicky that I'd simply be a completely different person. I sometimes wish things were "simpler" for lack of a better word, but I know if I was a "normal girl", satisfied with my body and gender, I wouldn't be me.
"You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists."
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Ryan

I would definitely take it.
I would still be myself. My past, my struggle and the things that have shaped me as a person will remain, but my body now finally be right for the rest of my life.
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Martin

Quote from: Gizzy on April 14, 2010, 09:37:50 PM
I would definitely take it.
I would still be myself. My past, my struggle and the things that have shaped me as a person will remain, but my body now finally be right for the rest of my life.

Ah, see if I could press the magic button and be a bio-male, I definitely would. I was answering the question of if your gender identity could be made to match your body, which I wouldn't want.
"You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists."
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Ryan

Ah yeah, I didn't read the entire post.

In which case, no. I couldn't even imagine it.
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Kay

Quote from: Trey on April 14, 2010, 09:14:25 PM
[/b]If there was a way to not be trans anymore would you take it?[/b]
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Ah, the age old question. Would you take the magic pill?
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Being trans has meant living with a lot of pain and discomfort.  It hasn't been fun...it's generally been hell.  (Society makes it far worse than it has to be though.)
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Having said that, you can't really separate who I am from being trans.  I just wouldn't be the same person.  I wouldn't be me...I'd be someone else. 
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So I guess it all comes down to this:  Do you value who you are more?  Or do you value peace and comfort more? 
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If you could ask someone to wipe your memories, change your feelings and emotions, change your identity, change your self image, change your foundational preferences, change your well...just about everything...change absolutely everything about the core of what makes you who you are....would you? 

To me that sounds too much like putting someone else in my body.  Giving my life away to a complete stranger.  I'd rather be me...no matter how painful that has been.  At least for me...deep down inside...I like who I am.  Now I'm just working on repairing, and making the rest something that I can like too.
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Now...if the question were the other way around (changing the body)?   No question that would be yes. ;D
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BlackWolf

If I had the choice... I don't know what I would do. Appart of me loves who I am and appart of me absolutly hates everything about it. It's just so difficult. I think that's why I'm still struggling on  what I'm going to do.
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kyril

The pill would let me not be trans...but would make my brain female?

No, sorry, can't do it. If I were a girl, I wouldn't be me. It would basically be suicide - killing myself and bringing some heretofore-nonexistent girl into being at the age of 27.


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Katelyn-W

I don't think I would be the same person anymore, it would be like it's someone else in my body. Changing how my brain works, it's like it would be "killing" me in some way. I don't enjoy the hardship of growing up TG/TS, I would want to be biologically female of course, but I would never change who I am inside. I'm lucky enough that the people in my life are accepting though, it's mostly myself that beat myself up over who I am.

With that said... I think all the things I've had to go through (not just the trans stuff) have made me a better person. I'm very compassionate and accepting of others, no matter who they are. I understand what it's like to be different, to feel alone, lost, and scared. I'm very easy-going, and I never get mad or angry, it never helps anything, treating people with kindness is always better. Some people just think I just let people walk all over me, I'd respectfully disagree though :P

Here's two sayings that I tend to live by  ;)

You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar
Before you judge someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes

Sorry for kinda going off-topic for part of my post :laugh:
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Silver

It's been asked many times before.

Anyway, the thought makes me uneasy. I would no longer be me. But I do not like the anger and depression and trepidation that comes with being TS. I don't like being such a burden on others like this either.

Would probably rather magically change my body into a bio-male's and keep my mind. Although it depresses me that certain permanent markers of femininity I cannot change.
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Teknoir

I'd like to change the body and keep the mind instead :)

If I didn't have that option? No, I'd stay as I am (as in, change the body as much as current medical technology will allow).

I haven't faced a lot of discrimination as a man. I honestly faced more pretending to be female.

I'm too hard wired, my gender identity has influenced every other aspect of my thinking :laugh: I wouldn't know what the hell to do with myself if it changed!
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Samantha_Peterson

No.

I have found why my friends are so accepting of me and that is because, even though I am a transgender, I will not be changing my personality. If I never wanted to change I would not have felt uncomfortable in school. If I had not felt uncomfortable in school I never would have met my best friend.
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Jam

No.

My body is just a shell, my mind makes me who i am.
I wouldn't change my mind to fit my body because then i just wouldn't be me anymore.
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cynthialee

For the sake of society I would say no.
Peter was an evil sh** always looking for a hustle, while hideing behind a mask of decency.
Also the magic pill might make me feel like a man but would it also teach me to like the things other men like? I doubt it.
I would find myself miserable soon enough even if cured, I would still be ostracized due to being wierd.
Such a treatment wouldn't wipe the memory of being trans and the people in the trans comunity I call friends.
So far my world is treating me pretty decently now that I am out. My friends who left me years ago have all come back and they like me again! Same with family. Transition has really fixed this messed up soul, so why mess with success.
So NO I would not want to take that cure.

(Are we talking a constant daily drug therapy or a magic bullet? Cause that would affect the answers you are getting.)
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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sneakersjay

Only if I could have been born male in the first place, then yes.

If I were born female and non-trans, I suppose.  But I was never a girl.

OTOH a lot of straight-laced people have opened their minds about trans-people after I came out, so who knows.

Jay


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Carson

If I could take a pill to make me a bio-male, yes.

If I could take a pill to make me a cisgender female, then no.
Call me a cheat but I make my own fate.

http://www.formspring.me/carson1234
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