I was just 'curious'. When a post op orgasms is the ''liquid' coming from the prostate? so is it semen without the sperm? so it's still 'male semen"? when your with say a guy would he be able to tell?

Quote from: MsGiselle on May 11, 2010, 03:40:49 PM
I was just 'curious'. When a post op orgasms is the ''liquid' coming from the prostate? so is it semen without the sperm? so it's still 'male semen"? when your with say a guy would he be able to tell?

That liquid is secreted from the cowpers gland which is located below the prostate.  It is not semen without sperm but is a component of seminal fluid and no, I don't think any guy is going to be able to tell

Quote from: Kristyn on May 11, 2010, 04:54:53 PM
That liquid is secreted from the cowpers gland which is located below the prostate.  It is not semen without sperm but is a component of seminal fluid and no, I don't think any guy is going to be able to tell

Thanks Kristyn. I was just curious.

This is interesting:

QuoteA bulbourethral gland, also called a Cowper's gland for anatomist William Cowper, is one of two small exocrine glands present in the reproductive system of human males. They are homologous to Bartholin's glands in females.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulbourethral_gland

QuoteThe Bartholin's glands (also called Bartholin glands or greater vestibular glands) are two glands located slightly below and to the left and right of the opening of the vagina. They secrete mucus to lubricate the vagina and are homologous to bulbourethral glands in males.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartholin%27s_gland

So, it would seem that, now that you are a female, your cowpers gland functions as your Bartholin gland.

The two being basically the same and having basically the same function.

Quote from: spacial on May 11, 2010, 06:58:14 PM
This is interesting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulbourethral_gland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartholin%27s_gland

So, it would seem that, now that you are a female, your cowpers gland functions as your Bartholin gland.

The two being basically the same and having basically the same function.

Basically, except in natal females the vaginal tissue is mucosal where as in trans women it is not

Quote from: Kristyn on May 11, 2010, 07:06:37 PM
Basically, except in natal females the vaginal tissue is mucosal where as in trans women it is not

Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_reassignment_surgery_%28male-to-female%29) says:

Quotemany post-op trans women report that the skin used to line their vaginas develops mucosal qualities from months to years post-op.

Which I have heard before as well. Basically the outside skin becomes like inside skin, and I think hormones has something to do with that as well.

Quote from: FairyGirl on May 11, 2010, 07:35:41 PM
Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_reassignment_surgery_%28male-to-female%29) says:
Which I have heard before as well. Basically the outside skin becomes like inside skin, and I think hormones has something to do with that as well.

I've heard this as well, but I don't see how mucosal tissue can just develop over time--it's probably just sweat or something, I don't know.  I've read a medical report where buccal mucosal tissue (the lining of the inner cheek) was attempted, but it was not succesful.  I'm sure, given time, that someone will find a way to make a neo-vagina self lubricating much the same way as a natal females vagina

Quote from: ƃuıxǝʌ on May 11, 2010, 07:52:13 PM
It was my understanding that the sigmoid-colon method produced a self-lubricating vadge.

That procedure does because the colon is mucosal.  But, from what I understand, the amount of moisture can be overwhelming, and most patients end up wearing pads most of their life.  As well, I hear it does not smell all too pretty

I'm confused now. So is there Fluid when a post-op climax's or not, or just depends.

Quote from: Jessica.C on May 11, 2010, 09:37:19 PM
I'm confused now. So is there Fluid when a post-op climax's or not, or just depends.

forgetting the prostate :p

as far as adaption to mucosa, it's an incomplete change

Adaptation process of the skin graft to vaginal mucosa after McIndoe vaginoplasty
http://www.springerlink.com/content/b533123842821nj3/

guess we'll find out soon enough

Quote from: ƃuıxǝʌ on May 11, 2010, 09:41:41 PM
Depends on the person.
I haven't produced any fluid for a couple of years now - and I don't expect that to change after surgery.

Actually, I only stopped producing fluids when my doctor switched me from Spironolactone to Androcur last year.  As for post surgical changes, I'm really keeping my expectations low to avoid disappointment.  That's not to say I'm not keeping positive, though.

that is interesting. I've only had spiro and it's been pretty much dried up for some time now.

Quote from: ƃuıxǝʌ on May 11, 2010, 11:08:15 PM
That's extremely interesting information; I'd love to know the mechanism behind this!

Not sure.  Spirono was ok at first, but seemed to slow down after a while.  After a physical, my doctor told me that my testosterone levels were unusually high so we switched.  As well, the Spirono was causing a build up of creatinine in my blood which was attributed to its diuretic effects.  After the switch I noticed a number of changes--some breast enlargement, I had patches of hair on my upper arms which disappeared, that fluid thing and a severe drop in sex drive.

The nurse who gave me a tour of my new vagina and my Vaginas 101 lecture said that I would be able to self-lubricate during intercourse to some extent.  Since most women my age don't lubricate well anymore, I didn't question her but had the impression it might be enough to be effective.

I'll let you know.

- Kate

Quote from: Jessica.C on May 11, 2010, 09:37:19 PM
I'm confused now. So is there Fluid when a post-op climax's or not, or just depends.

It depends on the individual, resent years Im a little dry down there but I use a ''lubricate jelly'' when Im have intercourse with my boyfriend.

Quote from: MsGiselle on May 11, 2010, 03:40:49 PM
when your with say a guy would he be able to tell?

I was dating my boyfriend for over a year before I tolded him I was trans and he couldnd tell the difference, he had other girl friends before me, he was surprised and shocked, thought I was joking, but was amazed my vagina came about because of good surgery, he's fully excepted the situation now, we're engaged to be married, finally  getting married in August.
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Quote from: pretty pauline on May 12, 2010, 10:51:07 AM
It depends on the individual, resent years Im a little dry down there but I use a ''lubricate jelly'' when Im have intercourse with my boyfriend.
I was dating my boyfriend for over a year before I tolded him I was trans and he couldnd tell the difference, he had other girl friends before me, he was surprised and shocked, thought I was joking, but was amazed my vagina came about because of good surgery, he's fully excepted the situation now, we're engaged to be married, finally  getting married in August.
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That Awesome and congrats!! Who did your SRS??

Quote from: pretty pauline on May 12, 2010, 10:51:07 AM
It depends on the individual, resent years Im a little dry down there but I use a ''lubricate jelly'' when Im have intercourse with my boyfriend.
I was dating my boyfriend for over a year before I tolded him I was trans and he couldnd tell the difference, he had other girl friends before me, he was surprised and shocked, thought I was joking, but was amazed my vagina came about because of good surgery, he's fully excepted the situation now, we're engaged to be married, finally  getting married in August.
p

Thanks Honey, congrs to you

Well I am 60 and 36 years post-op so I guess things have settled as much as they ever will.

When aroused, I do lubricate, some from the urethra and some (less) vaginal but with sufficient foreplay, intercourse is no problem. At orgasm, lubrication is "generous" but I could not say where from (my mind is elsewhere  )

One advantage of post-op evolution (over GG's) seems to be a much greater sensitivity over the full depth of the vagina.

Inversion, 1974. That's all there was back then.