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Sugar Daddies

Started by tori319, May 11, 2010, 06:43:14 PM

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tori319

I was watching the Tyra Banks show today and it was about sugar babies, men, and women.This made me think, would any of you take on a sugar daddy to help with hormones or surgery?
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andream

I once had this option when I was 20. I was at university in Wellington, New Zealand, and I met an older gentleman (50+). We became friends and he would often give me these tours around the city, since I was quite new there. I'd never shown any sexual or physical interest in him whatsoever. I visited him at his apartment a number of times. The last time I saw him, I'd visited his apartment, and we were on the balcony having some tea or coffee or something, and he told me that he wanted me to live there while I studied, and that he wanted to take care of me. So many thoughts ran through my mind, especially that this was the perfect opportunity to transition (I was just a fem male), but I knew implicitly what the price would be (s-e-x), and that he might throw me away eventually for another anyway. As Rhalkos said, it would have meant too much reliance on another person whose motivations may or may not be pure. And besides, I was not physically or emotionall attracted to him at all.

He drove me back to my dorm that night. Before I left the car, he implored me to consider his offer, and he then squeezed my upper thigh (he'd never tried to touch me before), not far from my crotch area. I nodded very quickly, and said I'd think about it. I really got of there in a hurry. I never saw him again. I stopped answering his calls, and he sent me a couple of letters, but those stopped eventually. I'd been sexual with men before that, but the way he touched me that night really scared me, because it was so out of character.

I have wondered what it would be like if I had taken him up on his offer. I would probably have transitioned years earlier, but then I would have paid a big price in being with a mna I neither loved, nor found physically attractive. I'm a bit old for sugar daddies now, I think, but if I were ever propositioned by one again, I woul probably do it, but I would have to be attracted to him either physically or emotionally, but then again, I don't even need a sugar daddy, so what on earth am I talking about?
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Janet_Girl

It would depend on the relationship.   If we were already in a relationship then yes I would.  But if it just something to get surgery, no.

Plus I would always make sure I had a way out.
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drippin

I actually have a sugar daddy now. I see him once a week, and he gives me 1000 a month. It gives me the opportunity to really focus on school and transition without working.. Its not a bad deal. And believe it or not, I. Care about him.
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Korlee

I actually have this issue right now.  I've been with him a couple times before to be honest.  I don't view sex as a taboo or dirty thing like a great many.  I just find peeps that interest me in a variety of ways and can prove hands down they are clean.  Then go from there and it does take longer... but safer.

Anyways...  I met him online and we talked a ton before meeting even over the cell.  I eventually met him and it was actually a wonderful night.  He respected my boundaries and showered me with well?  Stuff!  I got panties, clothes, makeup, perfume, and 60 bucks along with gas money to get there.  A single night for a ton of stuff.  A night I actually enjoyed.  (Yes, a night of sex.)  Since then though thanks to the snow he went out of state and hand to handle tons of things.   Well... now he is back!

Cept I am jobless and have less options.  So it would not just be a side thing anymore but more well?  I need the damn money 'n' such sorta thing to keep going.  I am flat out broke right now and riding on the store of hormones I had and the tax refund is gone.  He wants to meet weekly now for whole weekends and sometimes wednesday.  Step up the whole game and also be a lady on his arm outside.  I mean this would be a perfect chance to get practice on the street with protection, get some real clothes, and have some side fun!  I mean I might be able to afford to see a real doctor just to monitor by blood!

But?  I know all this poofing off would get noticed by the family.  I mean my mother is still down on it and my step dad hasn't been told.  My sister is okay but not still?  My mother actually recorded a show on us.  I only caught a glimpse as she shut down her clean house recording of something called Sex Change: The Aftermath from either life or discover it was rather quick as she closed it but it was grey and watched.  So she is learning about it?  Tried to find it on youtube but nothing with the same title 'n' such.  Either way this might severe the roof over my head which is all I got if not handled carefully. >.<

I want it but at the same time it worries me by having no backup if it fails.  I have no real education, the job front is shambles.  College?  I can't afford to do both but christ I refuse to wait even 5 more years to at least dress right.  I'd rather just not be alive.  I don't have the fortitude anymore to weather more storms or wait.  Wait for what?  To become a bedridden sex changed moron?  My family ages poorly.  You live now if you wish to live at all.  Being able to date in the young stupid fashion or go on roller coasters back to back with that date while I still can matters to me alot!

"sigh"  I'm torn between a family that has given me a home but never loved me for well?  ME!  They love me for my blood and nothing else.  And actually achieving the goal!
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Cindy

Not sure about this.

Prostitution is prostitution. It is not love. I'm sure there are many well kept sugar-daddy partners etc in the world. what freedom do they ultimately have? 

If you have sold your sexuality to a person, I think they may suggest they own it.

I don't think it is a good idea. No: really, it's a very bad idea.

JMO
Cindy

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tori319

I don't have one but I think it depends on the guy,I don't think its the same as prostitution.
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christene

NO WAY.
Everything comes at a cost. All from my pocket and I owe no one ANYTHING....well except for Sallie Mae  :-\
Really I have thought about this briefly in the past, more in a joking way, but in reality there is no way I would accept such things. Definitely agree with Cindy...
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drippin

I think many people have the sugar daddy, and prostitution issues very much misunderstood. I'm not against prostitution or sugar daddies and have done both. The thing that most people either refuse to believe, or are just not aware of, is that often times there is no sex involved. I have dated many men who are willing to help financially without ever even discussing sleeping together. Many men (and probably women too) do it for different reasons. Many of the men that I have seen told me how hard they had to struggle to get where they are now financially, and helping someone else brings them happyness. That's not to say that sex isn't a part for some, bacause it is and I'm not denying it. But ultimately it really depends on the person. And saying that love is never a part of it seems a bit ignorant to me (no offense). Although you may not be in love with your sugar daddy, (or maybe you are) you certainly will love them for the way that they treat you and the lifestyle they provide you.

So if there is someone willing to help you out and help you realize your goals so that someday you can be totally self sufficient and independent, why not?
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Shiro M.

It would be nice to find someone caring and willing to help, but not if I have to play whore for him. If I was attracted to him and we both had feelings for each other then we might get intimate, but only if the sex and the money weren't related. Like, he helps me financially because he wants to help not because he wants me to take off my pants.
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yabby

i had a few old men make such proposition to me. at the time i refused and said no, but later i wonder what if i accepted.

sometimes i regret not having done it at a fairly young age. probably by now i would had been on HRT for a few years and had my surgery.

i don't feel comfortable selling myself, but i am getting very desperate to transition.

yes prostitution is prostitution, but still living in boy mode is equivalent to prostitution and  on many day i feel like nothing but a cheap whore.
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gothique11

I don't think that there's anything wrong with it, if someone chooses to go along with it.

Same thing with being an escort. I have friends in the business, and my mom used to manage an escort business and has gone as an independent escort. It's not always about sex, but it can come into the picture.

I should mention that there's a bit of a difference between the hooker on the street corner and a professional escort -- especially in terms of money and the types of clients you get. Not to say that there aren't some shady escort business... that's true of any business, really.

I also wouldn't say it's for everybody, either. I have connections if I wanted to get into, for example, but it's just not for me. But I'm not going to tell my friends, who do it because they want to, that it's wrong. It's not my place. As long as it is consensual and they stay safe, I have no qualms.

I think one of the things that also made the decision easier was that my SRS was funded (at the time) by my provincial health insurance. If I had no funding, there's a part of me that would consider it -- especially when you can have rates around $500/hr up to $3000 an evening (yes, that's an actual rate of one trans escort I knew, who got calls constantly... pulling in $10,000 a month or more... not bad. Most clients also became usuals, and not all wanted sex either... there's plenty who just wanted companionship, a few cuddles, and someone to talk to).

There's one caveat to the money, however, it can be hard to leave behind... especially if your pre-op trans and you know the money maker is that you're pre-op and in a niche market.

Another pitfall, of course, is if you get involved with drugs... with having a lot of money around, it can be easy to party it up. Unfortunately, besides your own health, it also affects clients and your work -- this is where you have the girls on the street corner doing $20 jobs or for a couple rocks (crack). It's where you get the sleezy pimps doubling as your dealer, too. It's very unfortunate. When I used to live down town, I lived in an area where there were lots of street people and women on the street. I knew many, talked to them, and treated them like a person. At that point, they were doing it out of necessity and addiction. It's a very rough life style, and the clients you get aren't screened at all ('cause they are just ppl who drive up). It can be a very difficult, up-hill battle for these women and men to get help with their addictions and getting into programs to help them get back into their feet. There are a few places here that help, like the Women in Needs, that has programs. I've known people who have been on the streets and been able to get off the streets through these programs (which, sadly, are often underfunded for the work they do to change lives). Often, it can be hard for people to remember that these people on the corners hooking are people, too. Often, the corners are the bottom and not a fun place to be, and not always something that someone does out of choice.



Post Merge: May 12, 2010, 11:56:57 PM

I should also mention that being a professional escort is work. Often one joins a reputable agency because of client screening, better money, and protection. Also, most reputable agencies often will also require that you are clean, you use protection, and you're not a junkie, etc. A good agency will be there for you.
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Megan

Heck yes I would get one of them if I had the opportunity to get one, but I never been kissed, had sexed, dated,whatever.... so there's no chance of me getting one.

I don't want one for transsexual surgery/transistion though, I want one to get me plastic surgery to make me the most attractive being on Earth.

Then I would dump him, after he is useless to me. Since the relationship is not going to last forever, since I am going to be rich anyways and I have huge plans I don't want ties on me so I would say a 6 month (at the max) relationship would do fine.

.... where to find one ....

This isn't prostitution though, since unless you know the relationship is just the exchange for money and sex then it is. The relationship is more about being dependent on a person financially/socially/intellectually for your being (not sex), and you want to be protected in a subconsciously way and he wants to be like your "daddy"/provider so he'll give you "gifts".

Really it's more psychological than sexual.
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gothique11

Quote from: Megan on May 13, 2010, 12:30:49 AM

.... where to find one ....



There's actually websites. I can't remember which ones are good. One of my friends did it for a bit and went on a couple of dates with one guy who just wanted company; he didn't even want or expect sex. They just went out to a fancy restaurant, danced, and had good conversation. He'd even sent her money a couple of times after just to help her and her kids out.

You'd be surprised how many aren't looking for sex, but looking for company or someone to take on a date with no strings or relationship aspects, just to have an enjoyable evening out with someone to get away from it all (say, like, they work and travel constantly and they are a CEO in a huge company and have no time or desire for a tied down relationship, but want to have a fun night out, eat at a fancy restaurant and have a couple of drinks).

So, yeah, there's a lot out there -- the only thing is that you also have to be careful at the same time. There are a couple reputable sugar-daddy sites that actually screen the sugar-daddies.

I'm actually saw on one trans-dating site a couple (a post-op woman and a guy) were looking for a live-in maid for a year, in exchange you'd get spending money plus help with transition and surgery funding.

There's a lot out there. It surprising. And these guys are usually business folks -- not some creepy guy driving up to you when you stand on the corner. Some just send money to help you out when you tell them what's going on in your life and what you want.

You just wanna do your research for some of the sites offering that kind of service and look for a good reputation. Good ones usually go as far as screening the sugar-daddies with background checks.
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lilacwoman

if all the sugar daddies and sugar mommies cut off their allowances right now there would be an awful lot of man and women around the world wondering where their next meal was going to come from.
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tori319

Good thing that's unlikely to happen.
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maidenprincess

i have had opportunities for sugar daddies but i never take them.  it feels so weird and wrong to me.  i am not cut out for the sex industry.  i used to do sex cam shows for money but i quit after 2 months.  it just weighed on my morals and how i saw myself.  but for those who are able to i guess it's a good life.  i just cant.
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gothique11

Quote from: Maiden on May 13, 2010, 05:43:28 PM
i have had opportunities for sugar daddies but i never take them.  it feels so weird and wrong to me.  i am not cut out for the sex industry.  i used to do sex cam shows for money but i quit after 2 months.  it just weighed on my morals and how i saw myself.  but for those who are able to i guess it's a good life.  i just cant.

Yep, it's not for everyone. Personally, I couldn't do it, but I fully support someone's decision/right to do it if they felt they could, as long as they stay safe and make an informed decision. But, for a lot of people, it just doesn't work for them which is fine -- there's plenty of other job options for a trans-person out there, luckily, from working at a grocery store to being a CEO of some company. :)

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Korlee

Well... he contacted me again today.  He wants to meet this Saturday and wants to give me an allowance... However I kinda need an outside opinion this time.  I am a little scared of the idea but not because of the sex!  That is a small detail to me.  But I really haven't been practicing much since well?  I haven't found a job and my money has run out.  I've been more stressed of family issues and having no money.  I mean what he wants is more personal.... but still.

So... I don't really know as much on makeup as I could or should know, the walks, etc.  Okay, failure at all.  It just scares me to death... I tried to find a support group to take a look.. but every search turns up DC stuff... Ya... no...   I dunno. 

I mean this could be a great thing for me... but.. I'm just abit lost on the choice because of my own failure to do much beyond hrt in fear 'n' alone stuffs.  I want to jump onto this chance I have been given but.. "sigh"

What would some of you do?  I mean some of you have jobs, bravery, lots of stuff.
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tekla

Make sure he gets what he pays for, and pays for what he gets.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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