Yesterday I went to a shopping center to purchase some trousers for summer. I walked around to find what I wish to purchase. As there were many stores, each seller called me, asking to stop at their store. I stopped to pick up some items, but most of trousers there were too short for me. They asked me about my waist size, but I did not reply as I feared they would know who I am by hearing my manly voice.

And there was a nice middle-aged woman who quickly understood what I intent, although I did not say anything. She picked up some items at 50% discount price, and guessed my waist size, asking me to try them in the fitting room. 27 inch was too tight, and all she gave me were 28 inch. Length was a little bit shorter, but eventually I purchased two pairs. She commented like "that pants would be very pretty with you". I do not know whether she read me or not, but anyway she was so smart and kind.

Of course, there are some stores where I can speak without any hesitation because they know who I am. But at some new stores, I hesitate to reveal my identity. I always try vainly to pass as a woman by not chatting with the seller. If I chat with them, I can pinpoint and pick up better items, I mean what I really want. But, if I want to pass as a woman, I can not explain in detail and usually do not pick up what I really want.

This is why I prefer the internet, but sometimes I got wrong items. Probably I have better reveal my identity, but what are those women's clothes with faked boobs? Of course, some sellers try their best to explain and sell cosmetics and lady's clothes to me, although they know I am a dad as I visit there with my daughter and she always shouts "Daddy! Daddy!".

But, I still want to pass as a woman when I am alone, although I can not  choose the clothes I really want.

Barbie~~

Quote from: barbie on May 23, 2010, 11:45:16 AM
Yesterday I went to a shopping center to purchase some trousers for summer. I walked around to find what I wish to purchase. As there were many stores, each seller called me, asking to stop at their store. I stopped to pick up some items, but most of trousers there were too short for me. They asked me about my waist size, but I did not reply as I feared they would know who I am by hearing my manly voice.

And there was a nice middle-aged woman who quickly understood what I intent, although I did not say anything. She picked up some items at 50% discount price, and guessed my waist size, asking me to try them in the fitting room. 27 inch was too tight, and all she gave me were 28 inch. Length was a little bit shorter, but eventually I purchased two pairs. She commented like "that pants would be very pretty with you". I do not know whether she read me or not, but anyway she was so smart and kind.

Of course, there are some stores where I can speak without any hesitation because they know who I am. But at some new stores, I hesitate to reveal my identity. I always try vainly to pass as a woman by not chatting with the seller. If I chat with them, I can pinpoint and pick up better items, I mean what I really want. But, if I want to pass as a woman, I can not explain in detail and usually do not pick up what I really want.

This is why I prefer the internet, but sometimes I got wrong items. Probably I have better reveal my identity, but what are those women's clothes with faked boobs? Of course, some sellers try their best to explain and sell cosmetics and lady's clothes to me, although they know I am a dad as I visit there with my daughter and she always shouts "Daddy! Daddy!".

But, I still want to pass as a woman when I am alone, although I can not  choose the clothes I really want.

Barbie~~

i think you'll need to learn how to change your voice into a female sounding one. there are some videos on youtube of transwomen demonstrating the technique. basically, you raise your voice into a high falsetto, and it doesn't matter how ridiculous it sounds, and then you try to relax your throat muscles to lower it. it's almost like you are shifting gears. it does take alot of practice to learn how to control the muscles, but it's better than nothing. also, it might get confusing and complicated if you aren't using that one voice all the time. you will also lose practice, and lose touch with that voice if you don't use it enough. so you'll have to learn how to manage that if you choose not to use the female voice full time.

I have no reference as I don't and won't try to pass in public.  I applaud your efforts though and wish you the best.

An option (besides voice changing; which is a good one) is to try writing down what you want and passing the sales person a note.  They may assume you are deaf or can't speak but they want your money just the same.

All it takes is practice. Try practising in front of the mirror any spare chance you get, and when you think you're starting to nail it, go out and talk to people and just pray you've practised enough.

Also I came across some vocal training thing on the internet a while ago, but can't for the life of me remember what the link was.
To google I go!


Edit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciWIzpW_X20&feature=related# not what I was originally looking for, but watched it and thought it might be of some help

Yes. I heard that pratice by using microphone/speak can help it, but I nearly gave up, as I feel it is so difficult.

Barbie~~