been reading some of the posts and topics and..i noticed something i find strange.

for those of you that identify as androgynous, it seems that there is/has been some discomfort and emotional stress due to the nature of your identities.

Ive never felt that way. Ive felt very alone. wishing upon hoping that maybe someday i could find others like me. wishing that people would stop insisting on an emphasis of gender/sexual orientation being REQUIRED to be fixed in a permanent state.

but inside of me im fine. when im dating someone i "shapeshift" so to speak according to my partner's interest to be able to see the interest that it generates for them because that is what pleases me.

In my daily life i work a traditionally masculine venue. In my personal life im viewed as somewhat feminine.

I dunno...im not trying to be offensive..I would just like to understand why people are the way they are...

or maybe i really am a singularity. 

Personally I think the lack of stress you (and I for the most part) have is something we have learnt and habits we have acquired.

If being an androgyne is feeling that we are niether male nor female in mind (as I define it as) then their are two main responses to what to do about the body.

These two responses seem to be:


The fact is there isn't an androgynous body and it is a lot of skill and luck to get an androgynous presentation - so why worry? Play with what you can and enjoy what you've got, but such a view is often viewed with suspicion.

You are not alone, Hauser!
I am much like you, and delighted to meet you.

Pica Pica, I believe you are an exceptionally wise soul.
-Emerald

I believe I'm a twit who talks too much, but thanks. Welcome back Emerald by-the-way.
And by-by-the-way - welcome Hauser - not named after Kasper are you?

I think the emotional stress over being androgyn comes from not neatly fiting into a gender box, and feeling that perhaps some failure on ones own part is responsible.
Society finds it ubber important to quanitfy everything.

Screw society, just be......

being raised under the wrong concept that people are only two binary types , and because, before i've met people here i never actually knew that there is anything other than either male or female .  usually when i'm alone at something i'm like 90% sure that i must be wrong , so i have always been trying to 'fit in' under any majority group , for that i have the ability to 'shape shift' like you say , and i've never been as comfortable in my life with my gender identity as i've been since i realized and accepted that i am androgyne

This androgyne forum attracts all kinds of people, with different backgrounds, and different experiences. We are one of the richest corners of susans in my opinion. While some here are serene and happy with who they are (you seem to be one of them), some...... are less happy.

While i would not be happy in a female body, i still feel dsyphoria about the way i am. And the fact that there is no solution available for me (ie: transition) is where my dysphoria comes from. Most of the time i can deal with it, but sometimes it gets pretty bad. So i do things to express my female side, and that helps a lot.

So, we are not "strange", just different folks from all walks of life here in this big old chocolate box we call the androgyne forum. And beware of anyone offering you a slice of fruitcake 

Quote from: Pica Pica on June 08, 2010, 05:39:50 PM
I believe I'm a twit who talks too much, but thanks. Welcome back Emerald by-the-way.
And by-by-the-way - welcome Hauser - not named after Kasper are you?

i picked Hauser because its the name of a movie character with whom i share a habit that some people find kinda weird.

whenever i get stressed out, i pull out the shot glass and the bottle of murderously hot hot sauce i carry around and take a shot of it.

anyways. thank you for all the replies...a lot to reflect upon.  I dont want it to seem like Im dissing people if they have trouble..Im not..like i said in my intro...Ive never met anyone who had this sort of identity before. or heard of anything like it. so ive kind of had to come up with explanations and whatnot on my own. its enlightening to hear different perspective. 

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wanted to add...

i picked the word strange...because it's strange TO ME, as in not something i have experience with.

not because i think you are all strange lol...i just realized how that kinda sounded.

Quote from: Hauser on June 09, 2010, 12:46:56 AM
whenever i get stressed out, i pull out the shot glass and the bottle of murderously hot hot sauce i carry around and take a shot of it.

War Inc.

Confusion and disstress, yes there seems to be quite a bit of that around ne?... Personally I think it's part of the tumultus journey where folk sporting numerous checklists try to find out where they belong. Some just need to take a few steps, others jump into various spirals. It's all cool as long as people don't forget their seatbelts.

Quote from: no_id on June 09, 2010, 04:24:37 AM
War Inc.

indeed. I was rather surprised when that movie came out. I picked up the habit from my grandfather, who was a recovering alcoholic. it was his way of satisfying his own personal demon without actually falling back into active alcoholism.

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Confusion and disstress, yes there seems to be quite a bit of that around ne?... Personally I think it's part of the tumultus journey where folk sporting numerous checklists try to find out where they belong. Some just need to take a few steps, others jump into various spirals. It's all cool as long as people don't forget their seatbelts.

a well reasoned statement. 

i am just a little bit female in the head.
I hate bugs and snakes and getting dirty- but have horrible intimacy issues.
and i am about as romantic as dirt.

and yes- female born and raised. 
I would say i am about 10 percent female. wait- i do read chick lit. make that 15%.