Quote from: without_yolk on June 28, 2010, 08:45:29 PM
Yeah, truly, also... all humans have shown the capability of committing war. Heck, my ancestors were always having wars against other tribes, but not even just sentient creatures have wars... even ants commit wars, all animals fight when they themselves deem it necessary... either to defend their children or to gain more territory. Lucky for us humans, we've evolved some and are also capable of not fighting.

you can't compare humans to animals , humans are supposed to be human , and ...we *are* bad , well, for what we could/should be at least

Quote from: eNTROPY on June 29, 2010, 10:41:03 PM
you can't compare humans to animals , humans are supposed to be human , and ...we *are* bad , well, for what we could/should be at least

Humans are animals, though, and a lot of human behavior is based off of "animal" behavior, such as fighting for territory, mates, wanting to protect that territory, etc. 

The only things is, we got smart enough to make nifty weapons to help with that.

Quote from: eNTROPY on June 29, 2010, 10:41:03 PM
you can't compare humans to animals , humans are supposed to be human , and ...we *are* bad , well, for what we could/should be at least

Like Shang said, we are animals. Animals do as many terrible things as we do. Dolphins gang rape, wolves that don't have packs get eaten by other wolves, Ichneumon wasps torture their prey, etc...

We just don't notice it on the same level because we socialize with other humans and only see domesticated animals. I mean, people get really concerned when they see animal abuse(as they should be) but when animals do it to each other no one really bats an eye. We just see it as 'nature', and it is, but as humans we've created a different moral context(many, actually) than these animals. These moral contexts are human made and sometimes tell us to repress our animal nature, but it always shows through in some form.

We've got the consciousness that some of these things are wrong, and maybe some responsibility, but it's just an extension of what other animals do. Humans and other animals do terrible things all the time, but they both do wonderful things too.

yeah i understand your point and i couldn't agree more
but still , as it was said before , we *have* evolved..a lot , and as tacky as it sounds , but that added as much responsibilities on us humans , we *can* prevent our bad animal instinct , and we know it's bad only people who do bad things make excuses for themselves , like Hitler craving power he probably said to himself (oh yeah , no , i'm only doing this for the good of the world , if it's under one ruler it will be a better place) or like a suicidal bomber (i'm doing this for a good cause and oh i'm sooo going to heaven after this )
my point is.. we have evolved so much that we actually became different creatures than animals , but our animal roots resulted in animal cravings that we have the tool to *know* it's wrong and the power to actually stop it
so comparing ourselves to animals would only create excuses to do bad things and that's what i meant
as for the movie emphasizing on the evil humans who ruin everything , not only us who ruin everything , the world is decaying and being consumed anyway yeah , but emphasis is good so people take care of their actions and don't let the animal inside on the loose , and yes the way they present it in A LOT of movies got so tacky and old , if they just let me make a movie , i would..i would..errm rock their world

I like this movie.  It's like Ferngully for grown-ups.

i heard that the 'unrated' or 'director's' release is out , it has approx. 8 mins that are not in the original copy

Avatar = Ferngully + Pocahontas + $500,000,000

I was wowed by 3D for the first 5 minutes (Avatar was my first 3D movie experience) the I got nauseous and had a ginormous head ache for the rest of the movie and hours afterward. I notices also that 3D being as new as computer graphics were in the 80s, they felt the need to over use it to the point where even the supposedly still photographs in the guy's locker and the monitor screens were in 3D.

Quote from: Coppélia on July 15, 2010, 03:13:45 AMI notices also that 3D being as new as computer graphics were in the 80s, they felt the need to over use it to the point where even the supposedly still photographs in the guy's locker and the monitor screens were in 3D.

I agree.  The photographs seemed like a gimmick.  Also, even though Avatar in IMAX 3D was completely awesome, I'm not sure it was worth all the copycat movies which are trying to be 3D now even though almost none of them were well designed for it.  A good example is the new Last Airbender.  The 3D didn't really do anything for that movie, except for increase the ticket price.

Just saw it recently - in my opinion, absolute ->-bleeped-<-e. So much derivative artwork, dialogue, and story! Dances with Wolves...on another planet, basically..