http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg52wBzwV8k&NR=1#


Just found this news documentary on Youtube.  It is about the ever famous Kim Petras, and other transgender youth.  The Catholic Ethicist is completely ridiculous with his argument against trans-people (it is in Part Two).  Hope you enjoy, the documentary is kind of heartwarming in a way!

She really is pretty. I don't think a Catholic "Ethesist" has really any right to talk about the ethical nature of anything, given the recent accusations, and proofs against the Catholic Church.

I kind of want to punch the "Catholic Ethicist".   

That was hard to watch for me, because I felt a deep jealousy and anger. Jealousy towards Kim, for getting in before male puberty, and anger towards myself for not talking about my feelings which I have felt since I can remember (Somewhere around 6 or 7)

I would have looked so much different to how I look now if only I had told someone. Instead, I tried to be a boy.

Quote from: sarahm on July 03, 2010, 09:12:51 PM
That was hard to watch for me, because I felt a deep jealousy and anger. Jealousy towards Kim, for getting in before male puberty, and anger towards myself for not talking about my feelings which I have felt since I can remember (Somewhere around 6 or 7)

I would have looked so much different to how I look now if only I had told someone. Instead, I tried to be a boy.

I feel exactly the same.

But I will applaud Kim. And I'm optimistic, even thrilled, that the world is gradually moving forward so that the next generation will, hopefully, not have to put up with the preposterus and utter nonsense that most of us experienced.

Until I was nearly 17 I was on course to become the Kim Petras of my generation.

Sadly it then all went wrong when I came up against two, at the time seemingly insurmountable obstacles. First back in the 1970s no UK surgeon would operate on anyone under 21 and second my therapist wanted me to try a form of reparative therapy first.

The rest, as they say, is history, and like vexing says pointless to dwell upon. Fact is I still got there at a healthy young age and I still had the benefit of a sympathetic upbringing too so I really have little to complain about.

But I am glad to see that the world (with possible exception of the catholic church) is finally waking up to the humane thing to do and accepting that earlier intervention leads to less needless stress and suffering for us.

Thanks you for sharing that, I'm really happy for Kim! You can tell she's happy to be a girl Hopefully I can be that happy someday :]

But what in the world was the catholic guy babbling on about? lol

A few comments on the second video.

1:30. The ethiisist claims that, if he believes he is a cat, does that justify him being made a cat.

Answer. No. But if he believes he can justify and emphasise his opinions by claiming to be an ethisist, does that justify or emphasise his opinions?

He then claims that Kim's belief is a dilusion. A dilusion is a false belief, out of keeping with the individual's cultural and social background.

3:20 The reporter, perhaps because of something Kim may have said, claims that she must take hormones for the rest of her life to stop turning to a man. Not true. She must take hormones because he body isn't producing the correct homones for her needs. Much as some people with Type 2 diabetes must take a hormone.

5:04. The reporter asks, what if she changes her mind?

That's a question which can be asked about almost anything. If we take decisions, even those which we have thought so long and hard about, those upon which we are so certain, based upon what we might think in the future, then none of us will ever do anything.

Should I press the POST button. What if I regret it later?

(Sorry, I'm a compulsive button pusher  )

WHen I see Kim Petras, I cry.
I cry from joy. AT LAST! One of us has good parents. Parents that have embraced Kim and understand Tim was never really there. That is so awesome and wonderful.

I am jealous of Kim, yes, but I have to remember, when I was a child I would have been completely ineligable for transition. I like girls and guns and alot of other typicaly guy stuff. Only in the last 10-15 years have the medical comunity been able to accept that not all women need to be June Cleaver.

Kim is a walking talking promise of a better world for future trans children. If her mom was here I would buy her a drink and give her the bigest hug ever.

Quote from: cynthialee on July 04, 2010, 07:23:51 AM
WHen I see Kim Petras, I cry.
I cry from joy. AT LAST! One of us has good parents. Parents that have embraced Kim and understand Tim was never really there. That is so awesome and wonderful.

I am jealous of Kim, yes, but I have to remember, when I was a child I would have been completely ineligable for transition. I like girls and guns and alot of other typicaly guy stuff. Only in the last 10-15 years have the medical comunity been able to accept that not all women need to be June Cleaver.

Kim is a walking talking promise of a better world for future trans children. If her mom was here I would buy her a drink and give her the bigest hug ever.

While I agree wholeheartedly with your sentiments I really would point out that it isn't just down to her parents. My mother went in to bat for me as long ago as the early 1960's. She was the one who paid for all my treatement including the abbortive attempt to get me early treatement at age 17, and that was well over 30 years ago.

So a lucky few of us have had great and sympathetic parents for a very long while... trouble was it ALSO needed the wider society and the medical community to get on board otherwise our sympathetic parents became captives of a medical system which simply did not approve of their compassion and blocked their attempts.

If it had been down to my mother I would have been postop at age 14 or 15 even back then.

Kim's parents are indeed a model for others, but so is the German medical and legal system which has thankfully adapted to the growing medical understanding of us somewhat faster than some other places I could mention.

Quote from: rejennyrated on July 04, 2010, 07:35:08 AM
While I agree wholeheartedly with your sentiments I really would point out that it isn't just down to her parents. My mother went in to bat for me as long ago as the early 1960's. She was the one who paid for all my treatement including the abbortive attempt to get me early treatement at age 17, and that was well over 30 years ago.

So a lucky few of us have had great and sympathetic parents for a very long while... trouble was it ALSO needed the wider society and the medical community to get on board otherwise our sympathetic parents became captives of a medical system which simply did not approve of their compassion and blocked their attempts.

If it had been down to my mother I would have been postop at age 14 or 15 even back then.

Kim's parents are indeed a model for others, but so is the German medical and legal system which has thankfully adapted to the growing medical understanding of us somewhat faster than some other places I could mention.

I was in the lucky few, my parents where very supportive and that was in the 1970s, specially my Mother, I delayed my surgery because of fear of surgery and doing the right thing, but it was my Mother's idea that I should have srs to complete and finalise my transition, my Mother was absolutely delighted and trilled to bits when my surgery was finally behind me, I don't think I would have done it without her.
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wow, kim is beautiful. That man is just a prick. thanks for the video very emotional