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How old is too old to transition?

Started by kimi, March 11, 2009, 02:35:23 PM

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Sandy

Quote from: Tanya1 on March 20, 2009, 08:16:28 PM
is 19 too old and stupid to transition?
No and no.

Have you read the rest of the thread???

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I think I may create a topic for the younger trans person as well...

-Sandy
Out of the darkness, into the light.
Following my bliss.
I am complete...
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Fer

Quote from: Tanya1 on March 20, 2009, 08:16:28 PM
is 19 too old and stupid to transition?

I'm 18, almost 19 in a few days.
I have my E shot today and I'm on AAs.

That's too old.  you should've transitioned when you were 10. ::)
The laws of God, the laws of man, He may keep that will and can; Not I. Let God and man decree Laws for themselves and not for me; And if my ways are not as theirs Let them mind their own affairs. - A. E. Housman
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cindybc

Should have got SRS while still in the womb.
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Just being a smarty pants

Cindy
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noeleena

hi... well we all know we ladys dont tell ...our age ... yea right . i .m the nutter here so no probs ....he he .... born 11 aug 1947 . male karyotype 46 x y ...please note the gender stated on the referal form differs  from the karyotype sex
    So at least now i know i am different .
What it did not say or could is my brain is a mix of both male & female . it was there in the begining. just could not be seen . .... rat.s ...
   I missed that one  . .you see there is no test for us who are not as they think we shouild be .. never mind that came a long time later ... now it does not matter . i am who i am . & now loveing who i am . no hold.s barred . free if you like ... yes ....YES....the detail is .. & for some of us it.s that damm hard road we have to go down . that makes or brakes  us .. & its not the same for all of us .at 61 i am the most happyest now as that other women with the male back ground ..& when we accept our selfs for who we are .... hey it can be neat ..
      ...noeleena...
Hi. from New Zealand, Im a woman of difference & intersex who is living life to the full.   we have 3 grown up kids and 11 grand kid's 6 boy's & 5 girl's,
Jos and i are still friends and  is very happy with her new life with someone.
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WishIwasLaura

Hi,

The pressure has been building within me all my life, like a volcano. At almost 58 years old, i think I am about to errupt.

Seriously, all my life i knew there was something in me, but it is only in the last 10 to 15  years that I have begun, --- with the coming of the internet and the availabiility of information,-- to understand myself.

Now i want to be me.

my worries are if I will ever be able to live up to my desires, my dreams of how I would like to be.

Will I always look like a man in drag, or will be able to look like a woman, albeit an oldish one, if I were to transition.

If I transition, will  I swap one prison for another? Currently you could argue that I imprison myself. If I transition, others will imprison me if I cant "pass".

I desperately wish I had wised up so much earlier. All that time as a man, when I could have been a woman. I feel so sad sometimes when i think what might have been, I cant help but cry.

Now i am really thinking of begining the process, but have major doubts. Not about my desires, but about if I still have the courage and determination to withstand all the difficulties that would lie ahead if I follow my soul to where it would take me.

I am at a fork in my road.

If I remain as I am, I will die knowing that I lived a life in a physical form that never truly satisfied my inner self. So I think for the rest of whatever time I have l left, I should be a woman.

But somehow over the years, through suppression and ignorance, I have managed to laugh sometimes. I have earned money and had fun and lived.

Although that was never enough to bring the illusive contentment I sought, (now I know why), it did get me through 57 years.

So should I resign myself to carrying on, and lament what might have been.

Honestly I dont know if I have the strength for either course of action.

I only know that sometimes, my desire to walk out of the house and into the world, as an unrestrained and openly declared woman, with all the freedoms that would bring my soul, is so strong that I want to explode.

And all I can do is sit and cry.

Is it too late?

I dont know.

damned if I do damned if I dont.

I wish I could be born the same person today. I might just have realised a lot sooner who I am. And then i know I would have no hesitation.

The courage of my youth has deserted me it seems.
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cindybc

Hello, WishIwasLaura,

My name is Paula and I am Cindy's marriage partner.  I am 59 and post-op since November 2008.  I began my transition when I was 51.  I would write to you myself but I haven't logged onto Susan's under my own name in such a long time that I forgot how!

I was reading over Cindy's shoulder and I hope that you don't mind that, nor my writing to you.

As I see it, you already are Laura.  You are already working on letting her out to present herself to the world.  She is really who you are inside, who you were born.  There is an incongruity between her inside and outside that is a problem but it is not insurmountable.

I don't believe that it is too late to be 100% yourself, Laura.  The courage of your youth hasn't deserted you.  Look back and think about back then:  why didn't you or I do something about it in 1969, the year I graduated high school?  To whom could we talk?  How long would we have survived in that world?  What doctor could help?  Was there a psychiatrist in your town who was sufficiently enlightened to help?  Did you serve in the military?  Would it have been safe to be you there?  And how about career, maybe family, and so on?

No, the courage of your youth has not left you.  It was there for other endeavours, not this one.  You have a new toolbox to help you through this journey.  I might call it the "armour of maturity."

Now that you are 58 or so, what is stopping you?  Whose permission do you need?  I had no children (oligospermia, poor motility), divorced, was a senior person in my career, lived by myself, and I answered only to myself and the Almighty.  Period.

I began being me after work and on weekends.  I bought a quality hairpiece, tried my clothes on in the womens' dressing room before I paid for them, bought shoes in the large size section of the store, had a makeover at-home from a Mary Kay consultant, and told the world to kiss my class.

I went everywhere and never gave it a thought about if they were "trans-friendly."  If they were open for business they had better take my money and be nice about it.

Two years later, when I was 53, I reported to work as myself.

I tell you all of this, Laura, because it is never too late to transition and to make right nature's errors.  You have experience and wisdom on your side.  You know that no one can deny you what you need unless you allow them.

Sure, it's scary at first but if you take the first step and ***contact a gender therapist***, it will be a lot easier than you think.

Please write to me here if you want to talk more.

You can do it.

Paula

Post Merge: June 21, 2010, 11:42:02 PM

Hi WishIwasLaura,
I am Cindy, going on 11 years full time, or there abouts, and four years post opp.

This is the way it boiled down for me going 11 years ago now. I found myself driving down highway 400 coming back from Toronto Ontario. I was in deep pain inside, had been for some time but never let it show on the outside. After so many years of becoming familiar with my distinct different characteristics and personalities I came to identify myself as two persons in one. One on the inside and one on the outside. In time I came to realize that both personalities had always been residing as as one since I was old enough remember.

That night as I drove I thought to myself, how many times have I thought about what would it be like if "I were able to kill the inner-self?" Would I essentially be killing another person that had been so much a part of me for all of my life? Of course, killing her would mean killing the outer persona as well. One can not kill the inner-self without killing both inner and outer selves, and I had not desire to do such a thing, especially not to the inner-self. It was the outer-self I wished would go away.

I realy had no desire to kill off anything I only just wished the outer-self would just simply vanish. To me, after all those years the inner-self had become like a refuge during troubled times, a best friend, a companion who at times illuminated the path ahead for me. To banish her would trully be  like killing myself. I was caught between a rock and a hard place and as I saw it there was no alternative or other way out except to drive my car into a rock cut that night. *So such it was that I thought and felt at the time*.

This was where it had come down to that night. I found myself driving down a darkened highway with very few other cars about, I was actually looking for a suitable rock cut to drive my car into to end it all. Suddenly it was like a voice spoke in my mind, the voice of the inner self that spoke to me softly but firmly asking me a question. "Do you truly wanted to do what I was about to do?" "I spoke back with some anger and irritation in my voice, tears streaking down my cheeks. "What other alternative is there?" The voice responded softly, "I will leave you with this thought: who is it that truly wishes to die here on this night?" The resulting choice? Well, I am still here.

This was a Friday and I went to see my supervisor at Social Services and came out to her and told her that I would be coming into work as my true self the following Friday. That Friday morning I steped out of my apartment as proud as anything all decked out like a lady going out to do here dayly duties at work. I had that song going on in my head, Harper Vally PTA,

I had three children put in my custody on the first two years of my going full time. I had three children of my own and 8 foster children through the years.
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Josie06

I'm hoping never. Once you know you want too and tell everyone the remaining hurdle can be awesome. Financing your transition and SRS.

But I'll still opt for ... never!
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Laura Emily

Quote from: Sephirah on March 11, 2009, 10:23:05 PM
As long as warm sun rises,
Upon each brand new day,
And you've resolved to be yourself,
Transition is okay.

The truth is very simple,
Something everyone should know,
It's too late only once you've joined,
The earthworms down below.


;)
That's a beautiful poem.

Post Merge: July 06, 2010, 06:48:13 PM

Quote from: Nero on March 20, 2009, 12:52:58 PM
Well, unfortunately I'm transitioning now at 30. I had planned to do it 3 or 4 years ago now, but circumstances arised such as ill health. And I'm only now medically able to transition (I think, still have to get a clearance for HRT and surgery).
So, yeah, now I'm an old transitioner.  ;D

Old!?!?! I'm 33 and I'm not old!!! How can you be? :D
Those who live life to please others, rather than live the life they please, live only to exist.  - LEV
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tsukiko

My transition age is something that I have been thinking about often.  When I first admitted that I was trans, I felt stupid for taking this long to admit it and start my transition.  These days I realize that I can't change that part now, and even though it is later than I would like it is the time when I am able to.  I am trying to focus on moving forward as fast as I can to make up for lost time, so I can enjoy what time I do have still.

Although I am 26 and older than some people here, I am very glad that I have the opportunity to transition now.  Although it is true that hormones and some other things would be more effective if I was younger, I will still be able to enjoy so much of my adult life as my true self, and for that I am grateful.  I also consider myself lucky by being self-sufficient, not in a relationship, and I have many wonderful, helpful, and supportive friends.

I think the only time when you are too old to transition is when you are no longer alive.  The most important thing to be is yourself regardless of your appearance, as corny as that may sound.  I admire the courage and struggles that older trans people must have, and have nothing but love and admiration for them.  Make every day count!
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Nigella

Quote from: Tsukiko on July 07, 2010, 09:05:06 AM
My transition age is something that I have been thinking about often.  When I first admitted that I was trans, I felt stupid for taking this long to admit it and start my transition.  These days I realize that I can't change that part now, and even though it is later than I would like it is the time when I am able to.  I am trying to focus on moving forward as fast as I can to make up for lost time, so I can enjoy what time I do have still.

Although I am 26 and older than some people here, I am very glad that I have the opportunity to transition now.  Although it is true that hormones and some other things would be more effective if I was younger, I will still be able to enjoy so much of my adult life as my true self, and for that I am grateful.  I also consider myself lucky by being self-sufficient, not in a relationship, and I have many wonderful, helpful, and supportive friends.

I think the only time when you are too old to transition is when you are no longer alive.  The most important thing to be is yourself regardless of your appearance, as corny as that may sound.  I admire the courage and struggles that older trans people must have, and have nothing but love and admiration for them.  Make every day count!

Hi, well I took 48 years and I am now 51 so 26 is young to me, lol.

Hope it goes well for you, there are many ups and downs to face but there is life at the end a new life full of endless possibilities.

Stardust
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K8

Being in my sixties, I was worried that I might be too old for GRS.  I called Dr Bowers office.  They said their oldest patient was 79.

Transition when you are ready and not before. ;)

That happy old lady,
Kate
Life is a pilgrimage.
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YellowDaisy

i worry about the same thing, i want to do this now while i feel like the getting is good. i'm 18, and people on here take that as a joke, because most transsexuals nowadays don't decide to transition until they are about 40 and divorced, but it doesn't matter. the reason we do this is to be our true selves, and be happy with the person we see in the mirror everyday, so age really doesn't matter.
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LordKAT

No such thing as too old to transition.
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cynthialee

it is too late when you are 6' under dirt and pushing up daisys
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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LordKAT

Ok, you have a point. I meant as long as your alive. You really do have a point tho, so many think of suicide as an option. (I have too.)
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Transfused

I'm of the opinion that there is no age too old to be who you want to be.
However, I think transitioning gets harder as you get older. The older you are, the more your former identity will weigh on your new life and the harder it will be to pass because the years that you had hormones of your birth gender in your body will show traces.
The younger you can transition, if you are ready to do so and have the means, the better. Waiting only leaves more heartache.

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emma-f

Transitioning is for you, you do it when you're ready, and that's the perfect time
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