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For how long can people be depressed?

Started by TheBattler, November 14, 2006, 02:49:50 PM

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TheBattler

Hi all,

I was just thinking this morning about when my depression started. I am thinking it started 18 months ago and did not relise it.

This morning I woke up and felt alive for the first in a long time. I hope it is a sign the depression is leaving me.

I will write more when I have more time.

Alice
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tinkerbell

Hi Alice,

It depends; mine lasted for almost a year until finally I was able to see a psychiatrist who put me on an anti-depressant right away.  My depression is chemical BTW, so I am doomed to take "the happy pills" for life.

Please take a second to read this link.

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This morning I woke up and felt alive for the first in a long time. I hope it is a sign the depression is leaving me.

Are you on any medication right now?  If you are just feeling depression-free without medication, I'd say that you are a very lucky person indeed.  I also hope that this is a sign that your depression is "going away" for good. :)


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TheBattler

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Are you on any medication right now?

I am still on my anti-depression  meds - I slightly reduced dose then the full dose.

Alice
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tinkerbell

Quote from: Alice on November 14, 2006, 04:50:52 PM
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Are you on any medication right now?

I am still on my anti-depression  meds - I slightly reduced dose then the full dose.

Alice

Well, anti-depressants usually take about four to six weeks to work, so if you have been on them for this long, it could mean that they are finally causing their effects on your depression.  I personally had to try many types of anti-depressants before finding the right one.  Some of the other ones I tried were just useless or caused more trouble than good.  If you are responding well to your current medication (i.e., fading depression, no anxiety, no groggy feelings in the mornings, no severe side effects, normal sleep patterns), then it means that the medication is working appropriately.  Good for you, I am glad!


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TheBattler

Quote from: Tinkerbell on November 14, 2006, 05:00:49 PM
Quote from: Alice on November 14, 2006, 04:50:52 PM
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Are you on any medication right now?

I am still on my anti-depression  meds - I slightly reduced dose then the full dose.

Alice

Well, anti-depressants usually take about four to six weeks to work, so if you have been on them for this long, it could mean that they are finally causing their effects on your depression.  I personally had to try many types of anti-depressants before finding the right one.  Some of the other ones I tried were just useless or caused more trouble than good.  If you are responding well to your current medication (i.e., fading depression, no anxiety, no groggy feelings in the mornings, no severe side effects, normal sleep patterns), then it means that the medication is working appropriately.  Good for you, I am glad!


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Hmm - I have been on them since July - at least 4 months.

Alice
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tinkerbell

Quote from: Alice on November 14, 2006, 05:05:51 PM

Hmm - I have been on them since July - at least 4 months.

Alice

I guess the best way to find out is wait for a few more weeks.  If the medication is working, your depression is supposed to get better; but if it returns or gets worse than what it used to be, then you need to talk to your prescribing physician regarding a new medication.


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Ricki

Alice, hmm i think it could be a long time......
I literally allowed myself to get depressed?  Yes i admit it sad but true but that state of mind allowed me to then do some terrible things!
This subject is something very important to me because i think the stats aside once a victim of something foreever victim of something or more succeptable to it?  Like i had a heat injury years ago in the service and the doctors then said i need to be more careful and hydrate better cause I'll always be more succeptable / prone to getting or having another heat injury?
so is depression (bad depression) similiar?
Can we fall into it easily if we have already travelled that road once, twice, a lot???
I am actually paranoid about it, winter time is a slower time for me less active and i am more weary about easily falling into a slump, last winter in February i did for a few weeks, slept a lot more ate more (which is odd cause when depressed most people sleep more eat less, etc..) and just worked and waited for the next day to fall..
anyway an awful burden to fear or carry...
You've felt this way for a while but do you have good days too?  or maybe more better days than bad days?  That is always the measure i used i worry but i figured if i had more better days in a week than bad days then i was above the 500% margin!
lots luck
sending a cyber hug to un-depress you!
ricki
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Jessica

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Teri Anne

I've read some books about depression and some things made sense to me and some things didn't.  One complication of generalizing is, of course, that everyone has a different DNA/nature/nurture. 

One book said something that made sense to me:  Like Ricki mentioned, a traumatic event can lead, unfortunately, to reliving or "CHURNING" a depressing line of thought over and over.  I suppose it's a form of PTS, post-traumatic stress.  For me, the trauma of not being female was not anywhere as traumatic as transition.  I underestimated how society's bigotry would affect me.  I felt I was strong and was around educated open-minded people.  While I never experienced open bigotry like many TS's have, I did lose my job ("lack of work" was the culprit, my boss said.  I knew the real reason but it was never spoken).

I think if you find two things in your NEW LIFE, decent work and a loving spouse, that is the best medicine for depression.  I lack both but luckily will be able to draw on my pension/medical plan in 5 years.

I never found anti-depressants to be of any use to me (I took them for 6 months) because the problems that bothered me (lack of work and a loving spouse) remained.  I also noted that, in the contraindications for many supposid "anti-depression" drugs, "suicide" is one possible side-effect (for a minor percentage of the people taking the drug).  That didn't sound good.  The thing that MOST helped me was finding a thing called COGNITIVE REASONING.  Kaiser Permanente uses that kind of rational reasoning in its anti-depression groups to combat sad feelings. 

Another thing that helps is just being in an anti-depression group.  We went around the room and it was surprising to me how some people could get very depressed over things that, in my world, seemed like nothing important.  That lead me to realize the obvious:  We create our own hell by self-torment and that the best thing to do is STOP thinking about depression.  Take a walk, read a book, meet with friends -- do anything to stop pondering and destructive CHURNING.  I've noticed, for example, that if I begin thinking about suicide, I immediately get VERY depressed.  Thinking about ways, thinking about after-affects, it's all poison.  The worst thing is visualization.

A person looking at me during this period would ask, as the anti-depression group would, why put myself through trauma?  Isn't life difficult enough without enabling self-inflicted trauma?  And the answer, of course, is "YES." 

You asked, "how long can people be depressed?"  The answer is, in my opinion, however long YOU decide to be depressed.  You're the captain of your own course.  You can ignore cesspools or cruise your boat right into them. 
There is much truth in the simplistic saying, "you're as happy as you want to be."  The next time you start to get depressed, try NOT thinking about it.  By not letting it take control, doctors say that it can, over time, help break the CYCLE of that unfortunate tendancy of your mind WANTING to CHURN.

Ricki said, "I literally allowed myself to get depressed."  I did, too.  Distract yourself.  It has worked for me. 

Hugs, Teri Anne
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TheBattler

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Thanks Teri Anne,

The thing I was trying to convery is that depression set in about 18 months ago and I did not relise it untill now. Now I have better understand of Depression and the self-destructive thinking I can honestly say that it start a long time before I was previously willing to admit.

I can say that last triathlon/duathlon that I realy enjoyed was back in June 2004. That day I ran hard without a care in the world - when you run like that you are running hard but somehow it is easy to run hard. Since that time running has always been a stuggle. Yea I have had good result like Port Maquaire Half Ironman October 2005 & Austrlain Long course Champs - Feb 2006 (both race was arround 3 hours long) - but these times I have been running to suvive and last the distance (I was so happy when I ran like I did those days). The pure aderilane (?sp) from running was what I have been missing for so long - it just has been a struggle to get through.

I should add here that some of the cycling race I have done in that last year I have felt that rush. I did the two day vets race  (prologue, 45 Km Satutday then 90km Sunday) in March this year and I felt that rush of aderilane again. At the end of the 90km I was ridding hard trying to and break up the pack. Ridding like that is always fun  - the best anyone can  feel. I felt like that a coulpe of races last year but I have not been able to stay at that level due to lack of training. Training for the 2 day race was hard - I lacked the engery to consitently do the hill repeats that are so important for gaining strength while ridding. I wonder now if that lack of engergy could be the early sign of depression - something I would not of consisdered at the time. How long have I realy lack that drive I use to have - how long have those signs been with me?

I am now starting to get that excitment back - I am look forward to the day in a few months down the track where I can go out and train like I use to do - train because I enjoy being out and exercising - training because it is enjoyable running/ridding/swimming hard - not training to just get through the set.

Alice   
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Ricki

Teri anne that was great!!!!
I appreciated you typing all that it made me wonder and think too!
QuoteFor me, the trauma of not being female was not anywhere as traumatic as transition.  I underestimated how society's bigotry would affect me.  I felt I was strong and was around educated open-minded people.  While I never experienced open bigotry like many TS's have, I did lose my job ("lack of work" was the culprit, my boss said.  I knew the real reason but it was never spoken).
your one piece well that's a huge number on my list of not for transitioning so if i have not said it before i bow down before a lot of you girls and guys for the bravery and basically complete change you undertook to progress... I would pray all the happiness for you i could muster now!  maybe some day timing for me will fall into place maybe not?  I have managed 38 years, they say after 40 it only gets better right? Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr.............
I'm glad you clarified Alice but i think i got a sense of what you meant and understand it now?  Its scary cause its like a white cloud that turns grey very slowly then a grey cloud that turns black very very slowly then all of a sudden its dark and you think wow what the heck has been going on?
I feel it....
luv..........
Ricki

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Rei Ayanami

  By personal experience I would be tempted to say that people can be depressed their entire life with small refrains which occur when they are encourage to do things that they like (when not forced) Being as self concious/paranoid as I am it's hard for me to find these moments but when I do they are small epiphanies each one releasing me one thread at a time from the tangled ball of yarn in which I live.

Rei
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Ricki

Rei Ayanami!
you make a good point i like the ball of yarn line!
Speaking of with holidays coming fun game to play get yarn every few feet tie a small paper with a charades type thing on it like "quack like a duck", kiss the person next to you, etc.. Ball it up and woola at a party do a circle of charades and you throw the ball to someone as it unravels in the center of the circle and the person you throw to has to do the charade and then throws to another, actually great fun at adult parties where there's booze, and music and it can get a little crazy!
Ohh i am soo sorry i went on and on again!
Agghhhhh
Rei.. Also thanks if you spelled epiphany right thank thank thank yo!  i am always trying to spell the stupid word i like that word..
Thanks
Ricki
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