I'm Wiccan. I've been butt raped, so to speak, by many Christians explaining to me that I was going to hell and that I was always going to be a..._____ no matter what I did and that what I was doing was wrong. This was when I was going to get food from a food pantry run by a church. Made me feel pretty sh*tty. Needless to say, although I could still use the help from that food panty again, I refuse to go there now. I wouldn't go if I was starving, I'd figure out another way. I've never really liked Christians who shoved their religion in my face and forced it on me. This just reinforced that.

Quote from: Arch on June 28, 2010, 06:41:19 PM
Wow. This may be the weirdest development yet. Do you suppose someone talked to her?

That's all I can figure. 

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Quote from: ƃuıxǝʌ on June 28, 2010, 08:26:55 PM
The father commented "You won't get anything from those, they're not real ones."

That's horrible.    

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Quote from: Keroppi on June 29, 2010, 09:17:59 AM

jmaxley, some nice replies you had to her. I don't know how you coped. Maybe a "God told me you're not very good at Chinese whispers. Maybe you should try and listen harder."

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Quote from: zombiesarepeaceful on June 29, 2010, 02:21:11 PM
I'm Wiccan. I've been butt raped, so to speak, by many Christians explaining to me that I was going to hell and that I was always going to be a..._____ no matter what I did and that what I was doing was wrong.

I go to a Christian-based support group for people with depression, even though my beliefs are different (they lean more toward new age/pagan).   It's helped me a lot but I dread telling them about being trans (they don't know about my beliefs being different either).  I've already had comments from a couple of people about my hair and clothes.  Nothing outright rude but they were wondering why the change.  The group has helped me quite a bit, if nothing else just as something to get out and do instead of sitting at home, but I really don't think they're going to be understanding and they're a bit scary at times when they get fired up.  I'm thinking about just quietly dropping out.

Quote from: accord03 on June 25, 2010, 06:31:06 AM
Haaahaha I think it's hilarious just havin some weird person say that.

I agree. I have been laughing as I read through this topic. But to me that's pretty interesting that someone told you what 'God' told them about you. Has it been more awkward ever since then when you attend class?

It has been really awkward lately.  Everyone in the class knows...they treat it like its some sort of joke.  They'll use my birth name and then correct themselves in a really sarcastic voice.     I'm just counting down the days now till it's over.

Lol. 

Well, whatever was said to the woman didn't stick.  Today she was preaching at me about Sodom and Gomorrha and told me that God was going to get me.  Like God's some sort of boogeyman or something.  I'm trying to ignore it and not go off on her but geez...I'm ready to start being really rude.

Ya, really.  That's harassment.  The school should intervene.  Ask the professor if there is someone you could file a complaint with about her creating a hostile environment for you.

From my own experience, I think the thing that sticks with me is whan I was boarding at a FTM friends parents house early in transition and their nieces and cousins and so forth were visiting around X-mas time.  This little boy came up to me out of the blue and said, "My Dad's right.  You're just a wimp."

What ever happened to separation of church and state?

"Proselytism is considered inappropriate and not protected in certain environments open to the public or are owned privately: government buildings, public education (grade schools and college campuses), the workplace and private properties like ones' home or front yard."

If this is your teacher, you could complain to your school about her and get her into big trouble. You might even be able to sue. I would check into that. I'm not one for suing over frivolous things mind you. However, what she is doing ignorant and against the law.

If she isn't your teacher, I would tell her to go pray for you quietly in the corner or something. That's the only way to shut them up.

Those law are only applicable to students in a public school in the US.  I'm not sure if either condition, or even both, are in effect here.

In the US teachers (public universities and schools) are in no way allowed by law to preach or lead prayer in school. Students on the other hand can do whatever they want unfortunately, but you might be able to get her into trouble for harassment. I'm not sure what they would do to her though.

Get a restrianing order that prevents her from coming to class.  lol

She's a student.  The class isn't through a school though.  It's a sort of life skills/support group kind of thing offered by the local mental health place.  I was going to learn coping skills for dealing with stress...oh, the irony.

Well, I did report her to the teacher, who said she would take care of it.

BUT--

I ordered my first packer a couple of days ago.  The next time this woman tells me to prove to her I'm a man, I may unzip my fly and do a little show and tell...would love to see her face then.

I was going to learn coping skills for dealing with stress...oh, the irony.

I take it you're not passing the course.  That whole deal is a very real life situation you're going to face.  And so far, you're not coping, in fact, given the response - I ordered my first packer a couple of days ago.  The next time this woman tells me to prove to her I'm a man, I may unzip my fly and do a little show and tell...would love to see her face then - you're not making progress.  What are you going to if they arrest you for lewd and lascivious behavior, and if there is anyone there under the age of 18, you might face charges that will label you 'sex offender' and that will pretty much destroy the rest of your life.  And of course, buying some piece of rubber or plastic is not going to make you man anymore that having a 'life-like latex feel' pocket pussy is going to make you a girl, or having a blow-up doll means your in a relationship and dating.

Not at all, but I'm thinking its not going to impress little miss christian at all either.  If the object of that kind of little drama queen act is to impress/scare/intimidate her, its not going to work at all.  And the odds of it backfiring, either by arrest, or by total humiliation (like if she just busts a gut laughing and points it out to everyone else there while still laughing her ass off, as would be her right if you whipped it out in public) that would be virtual psychological napalm.

I agree with both of you..

Tekla- yea, I don't think that this woman will respond well to seeing his packer, it it wont make her change her mind

and Vexing- The packer is important for some guys, to make them feel more like a man, but he already is a man, even without it, but I doubt this woman will ever be convinced of that, packer or not

I had someone once refer to me as being a "gender mutant".... which I found completely insulting, which was probably their intended response, so I simply gave them a very detailed and polite idea of what being trans really means (to me anyhow). =]

~April

I was joking guys.  Didn't mean to offend anyone.  I'm sorry.  I realized after I posted I shouldn't have said it but wasn't able to get back online to edit.  I've been under a lot of stress and people have been giving me a LOT of grief about this.  Maybe you guys are right.  Maybe I can't handle the stress of transitioning right now. 

Quote from: jmaxley on July 08, 2010, 12:49:46 AM
I was joking guys.  Didn't mean to offend anyone.  I'm sorry.  I realized after I posted I shouldn't have said it but wasn't able to get back online to edit.  I've been under a lot of stress and people have been giving me a LOT of grief about this.  Maybe you guys are right.  Maybe I can't handle the stress of transitioning right now.

It's fun to think about though.  Years ago when I was  married, my H and I had horrific neighbors.  We were also CSI fans and have scientific backgrounds.  We used to come up with ways to off our neighbors (in theory; never were gonna do it).  Then we'd find the flaw in our plan that would have led the cops straight to us.  But it was kinda fun, esp. when you have vivid imaginations. 


Jay

Under the circumstances, I think you have been more than gracious with that woman. Everybody has weak moments when they do or consider doing things against their better judgement when pushed too far. I don't think this means you shouldn't transition however. Who here hasn't had a less than honorable thought cross their mind, said something vicious or mean out of anger, or had the urge to do something that might not help a situation just to spite someone?

My advice would be not to give this woman the satisfaction of letting her get to you. If ignoring her outright doesn't help, then file a complaint o harrassment. You shouldn't have to be subjected to that ona daily basis in silence.

~April