Transsexual spared jail because of risk of attack
A transsexual who downloaded child pornography has been spared jail after a judge said that time in prison would be an "appalling experience" for her.

Published: 8:10AM BST 14 Jul 2010

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7889707/Transsexual-spared-jail-because-of-risk-of-attack.html

Laura Voyce, 20, who has changed her name from Luke, could have been locked up for nine months after being convicted of 14 counts of downloading indecent images of children.

But Judge Lesley Newton chose to suspend the sentence after saying that she would be at risk of attack in prison.

Voyce, from Kirkby in Merseyside, is in the process of having a sex change to become a woman.

The court heard a stash of indecent images was found on Voyce's computer by police investigating another allegation.

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Sex-swap lets porn pervert dodge prison

July 14, 2010

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/crime/s/1301598_sexswap_lets_porn_pervert_dodge_prison?all_comments=1

A transsexual who downloaded sickening child porn has been spared jail after a judge said she would not be safe in prison.

Laura Voyce, 20, who used to be called Luke, could have been locked up for nine months after being convicted of 14 counts of downloading indecent images of children.

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Transsexual pervert who downloaded child porn spared jail because judge says it would be 'an appalling experience'

By Liz Hull
Last updated at 1:53 PM on 14th July 2010

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1294620/Transsexual-downloaded-child-porn-escapes-jail-judge-says-appalling-experience-her.html

A transsexual who downloaded child pornography has been spared jail after a judge said she would not be safe in prison.

Laura Voyce, 20, who used to be called Luke, was convicted of 14 counts of downloading indecent images of children.

Some of the images on her laptop were graded at the second most sickening level of abuse.

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Paedo spared bad time in Jail

By NEIL MILLARD

Published: Today

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3053657/Paedo-spared-bad-time-in-jail.html

A TRANSSEXUAL who downloaded sickening child porn has been spared jail — because she might not have a nice time in prison.

Laura Voyce could have got nine months inside after being convicted of 14 counts of downloading indecent images of children.

But the judge in the case spared the 20-year-old a custodial sentence over fears for her safety despite saying she deserved to be caged.

If they downloaded kiddie porn on purpose... and 14 counts sure sounds like something someone did intentionally, they should rot in jail... stick them in solitary.

I'd save that for the person who published the porn.

She should go to jail. Why can't she go to a women's prison? She's one sick person who doesn't deserve any leniency because of her trans status.

This makes me mad! I think it'll give people more reason to be anti trans! No one should get a free pass! They should do time. But now that her name is out there, I don't know how safe she'll be lol.

LOL?  Is it really that funny?

Quote from: tekla on July 15, 2010, 02:02:11 AM
LOL?  Is it really that funny?

I don't mean lol. It's just a bad habit, and I guess I found it ironic that she was spared jail for safety reasons but now her name is in the news, as well as the fact that she's trans and downloads kid porn. But I didn't mean it's funny =/

Making it should be the crime, not downloading it.

Quote from: tekla on July 15, 2010, 02:10:53 AM
Making it should be the crime, not downloading it.

agree to some extent, but if there were no one downloading, the vids wouldn't be made. Anyone downloading this **** is a pedophile, no mistake about it.   

She cannot go to a women's jail until she is post op.

Caroline

There is clearly more to this story that meets the eye.

Having siad that, the problem of the law and child porn, in the UK is in a mess since a number of socially prominant people were caught out.

Gary Glitter, a glam rock pop star from the 70s who was making a big time come back, was caught, sent to prison and ultimately ruined. Since then, lurid stories have popped up about him with the theme, 'It was obvious all along'.

Following this a campaign was started and police set up a special task force to look for child porn. They traced it from sources to computers. They took reports from people.

A few more cases emerged, some carrying bigger sentences than Glitter.

Then some judges, few police and then shock horror, Pete Townsend, he of that pop group. The Who, who had been generally regarded as almost an elder statesman.

Here in the UK, it just isn't done to put respectable people in with a lot of rough, criminal class type, don't you know? Eh What!!

So, the defense of, 'I only downloaded it for research purposes', came out. Townsend claimed he had been abused as a child and was writing a book about it. This same defense has been repeated so often.

The full details in this case are clearly being pushed aside by the transgender nature of this criminal.

The law is a mess. The realities of child abuse cannot be fully discussed.

Someone left this comment about the story: "it's a shame this judge didn't send him to a mental institution where he can at least be treated for GID which has an extremely high cure rate."

wait...what?

Quote from: Shade on July 15, 2010, 02:15:51 PM
Someone left this comment about the story: "it's a shame this judge didn't send him to a mental institution where he can at least be treated for GID which has an extremely high cure rate."

wait...what?

Cure? I wish I could smack him right now...

You can't "cure" us....there's nothing to be cured. We're not sick...

Solitary is (literally) torture. She belongs in a women's prison.

Quote from: Samantha_Peterson on July 15, 2010, 02:31:31 PM
Cure? I wish I could smack him right now...

You can't "cure" us....there's nothing to be cured. We're not sick...

The only successful treatment of GID is HRT and GRS... what a moron.

Quote from: carolinejeo on July 15, 2010, 03:43:02 AM
She cannot go to a women's jail until she is post op.

Caroline

I was aware that in the UK a Gender Recognition Panel could issue a certificate to a preop transwoman,
that would designate her legally female, for identification, and other purposes.

Indeed there are many states in the US that will do the same.

However, in both instances it was my understanding that a woman would be incarcerated based upon her
genital status.

Thus a pre operative transwoman would be interned with genetic males, and a post operative woman
would be interned with genetic females.

From the citation below it appears as if where a preop transwomen is incarcerated is dependent upon
a decision by the Prison Services.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1294620/Transsexual-pervert-downloaded-child-porn-spared-jail.html

Quote from: Shade on July 15, 2010, 02:15:51 PM
Someone left this comment about the story: "it's a shame this judge didn't send him to a mental institution where he can at least be treated for GID which has an extremely high cure rate."

wait...what?

Whoever said that doesn't know what he's on about.

I could go into the ethics of mental health but suffice to say, GID isn't an illness because it isn't, in itself, a problem.

The unnatural attitude toward children is. But treatment for that is hampered by a number of factors, not least finding anyone prepared to give it.

This should not be hard one:
- she is legally female
- she possesses still external male genitalia
- she has done a serious crime

Conlclusion: She should be put to female prison and there to solitary or partial solitary. That would not be so hard just one pre-op transwoman won in the court to transfer to female prison because of her gender recognition certificate.