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Alakazam! I resurrect you noble topic.

So, guys, what do we think about this now?

Quote from: Pica Pica on July 19, 2010, 05:40:04 PM
Alakazam! I resurrect you noble topic.

So, guys, what do we think about this now?

Necromancy is illegal in 47 states.

(Now you are wondering which states permit it lol)

I'm glad there was necrothreadmancy
I hadn't read this, and I found very interesting.

Let's see.

For me humor is a way in which I attempt to communicate.
Apparently, my "normal mode" of communication, isn't good.
Right now I'm having some of a lot of trouble over it, because.. well,
everything is reduced to people problems.

As an androgyne I understand some things about people that "normal" (and what is normal, anyway ? I still have to meet somebody I can truly say "this person is normal").. that "normal" people have trouble grasping.

Now, another big thing is, what does one do with it ?

I have this huge sea of feelings and emotions and everything wonderful inside my self, with unicorns and fruitcakes and whatever.

But when you try to put part of it out there, it's almost always not well received.
For ex. one thing I usually do, is that I break into storytelling at random.
People seem to find it amusing, and just listen to it, but often times I'll just feel that it was inappropriate or somehow "wrong" to do that.
Only with my closest-est friends I feel safe to do it.

The calmness of emotion is only surface deep, because I know that while I "present" an apathetic and calm facade, my inner world is breaking and everything is chaos.

But I won't let them know that.

My first love (is that the correct word? I felt strongly towards this person.), I let her go because I found myself "inappropriate" for her. And because, honestly, it seemed like too much trouble.
I've seen people of all walks get into relationships, only to be promptly burned by them.

Now, I believe that the others actually feel a bit as I do.
I believe they also have trouble figuring what should they do.
And they have trouble with their feelings too.

What I don't know is what makes the make the choices they make.

For ex. those hard working types, who would rather work than play... why ?
I just can't bring myself to act like that, formality and "professionalism" (which also seems to be a synonym with assholism).

Right now, I'm trying to, if not to understand it, at least appear to be like them.

So far I'm failing horribly.

I wonder if many of us start being jokers by telling at as we see it in all seriousness, but instead of getting a serious discussion or acknowledgement of our ideas we get a laugh instead.

Yes, very.

"what are you?" <-- refering to work, or something more common ?
"I'm a vagabond ->-bleeped-<-" <-- absolute complete truth
"OHOHOHO U SOO FUNNEH"

I'm hot.

Me too

Me three (adds absolutely nothing to conversation).

Gosh, not read this thread before! I am well-known in my circle of friends for being very childlike and level-headed (not to mention the master of bad puns!) And, like a lot of people have been saying, I have no idea how to deal with strong emotions, either in myself or other people. Especially now I'm at University, and everyone's getting hammered 3 nights a week and falling out with each other and having relationships with each other (with all the emotional responses that come with it)... and I just don't get it. I just listen in a bewildered way and try to calm them down. I find it hard to understand why they don't just eg. leave a painful relationship, or solve arguments without the resentment when one side 'wins', and so on. I went through a very angry stage in my life when I was about 12 or 13, so I suppose I'm a bit of a hypocrite, but since then I find it quite easy to let stuff go or just do something else and don't see why other people can't do the same.
Certainly I have recently (past few years) felt a shift in how I relate to my friends because they've gone into some kind of 'macho' stage now if masculine and the feminine ones are doing the whole makeup-and-boys thing... I really miss childhood, because now it feels sometimes like it's a struggle to get them to stay on my level, because unless I put on some act I can't relate to them on theirs. I dunno, I just don't know why people would abandon how they once were for this divisive, society-dictated set of characteristics. Intellectually, I can see the benefits- people with a feminine set of characteristics relate a lot better to people with similar feminine characteristics, for example. It's that whole 'men are from Mars, women are from Venus' line of thinking that I hate. I could never live like that, choosing one over the other. I have no concept of living like that. I don't understand why people cannot just take characteristics from each without fear of being un-Martian or un-Venusian so that they can be the best PERSON they can be... one could say, the best of both worlds? *Ba-dum-pum-CH!*
/rant. For now... *ominous music*
So, how this relates to a sense of humour? It keeps people happy, it softens the blow of telling it like it is (I seem to generally say things I feel to be quite serious and personal in a silly accent involuntarily), and if done right it appeals to the childish (immature?) side of people. It's also a non-harmful outlet for frustrations that would otherwise be released through anger. All in all, quite useful, I would say!
Though this tendency for androgynes to be quite mild-mannered still confuses me. It's a similarity I did not expect to find. I don't think the lack-of-mental-puberty really explains it. 

I enjoyed your big wall of text - now I will think about it.

Who, me? Sorry, I didn't realise it was such a wall until I posted it. I really need to work on paragraphing. 

Hm.
Hmm..

No.

The hypothesis in the OP makes zero sense to me.
Humour as a tool for expression with a lack of expressing emotions?
Sounds like psych 101 to me, nothing androgyne specific.

In fact, to see humour as an compromise for a lack of frame of reference in the act of communicating seems rather shortsighted to me: using humour more often for a tool in communication doesn't mean more information is traded because the universal structure of humour still has many limits. If anything, humour is far more reliant on the mirror effect. In other words: if you know what joke to make to make someone laugh then YOU are restricting YOURSELF consciously if you cannot say something that same person will like.

Use humour to protect ourselves from us.

No. Based on the above: same 'ole lack of selfconfidence. Nothing androgyne specific.

That's my two cents + an opinion.

I don't use humour as a compromising means to communicate. I don't mind conflicts. I'm not a loud person. I'm not a very emotional person. If angry I will put my knuckles to work with pleasure if that's the situation but likely I will go quiet. If sad I will cry but likely I will go quiet. If happy I will laugh but likely I will enjoy the feeling quietly. If conversing I will converse and I will listen and talk alike. If I don't like where the conversation is heading then I will say so because I can use words to form sentences. And if I don't know what to say or how to react then I will say I do not know what to say or that I do not know how to react - and you know what's the great thing about that? People then try to explain.

I don't think I use humour as a 'defence' mechanism.  I use it to interact with my rather small group of normal friends as I find it hard to interact with them in many other ways.
Humour is always popular and hence the use of it makes YOU popular by association. None of my friends know abut my, um...gender difficulties and I see no real reason to tell them. I leave my university in a few months and I'd prefer them to remember me as a stable and somewhat fun person to be around.

Yes, I know its a copout, but when I myself am unsure of what I want, I can be reasonably certain that others don't know what I want either.

I'm in a foul mood right now. Not with anyone here. I feel like using humor as a weapon. Like if someone is being all snotty, I'll reduce them to a gibbering cauldron of giggles. Against their Will. It's the only weapon I got, Sarge.

I should corner people in dark alleyways and abuse them with my mighty powers. Maybe that's what I'll do tomorrow night.

I must say, it is quite easy to reduce me to a gibbering cauldron of giggles.  I hope you aren't in a fowl mood anymore.  I was trying to think of a good pun, but I decided to just wing it.  (I feel like I used to be better at this)

I realized two things reading this.  1.) I am an instigator and 2.) I've changed a lot in two years!  I think I've come to terms a lot more with stuff from my childhood and I don't feel the need to analyze it in the same way.  I'm still an instigator and a giggle box, though. 

Also, it's nice to see you all again!

Nice to see you too.

My mood has lifted. Now I yearn merely to wound, rather than to kill, with my humor. 

Quote from: Rebis on July 30, 2010, 09:02:17 PM
Nice to see you too.

My mood has lifted. Now I yearn merely to wound, rather than to kill, with my humor. 

Glad to have been of service!    My study on subliminal messages is going well...now, what shall I suggest next? 

I need to know how to make money while sleeping.

Quote from: Rebis on August 16, 2010, 03:47:38 PM
I need to know how to make money while sleeping.

Put a box with freebies and a box with a few coins next to it, and a cardboard which reads "please share what you think it's fair", but feel free to play with the text.