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just wondering about the female mind in a man's body?

Started by jainie marlena, July 29, 2010, 09:57:55 PM

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Nero

Quote from: Northern Jane on August 04, 2010, 06:35:30 PM
Going WAY in time, to my teens, and looking at things from 30+ years down the road, I see some things more clearly.

From puberty onward, testosterone was like a 'bad drug' that really screwed up my ability to deal with life and my emotions. (This was before 'blockers'.) Oestrogen was like a tranquillizer - it didn't help me deal with things but  it made the instability better. It wasn't until after SRS, with T reduced to almost nothing, that things really came together. Life was easy and enjoyable and I finally became a real person, much more of a person than I had ever dreamed possible. My body and mine were simply not running on the right fuel before.

Hormones had the exact same effects on me only in reverse. Isn't that crazy? That E did the same thing to you that T is doing for me! Almost like the brain really does have a preference for a certain fuel. :laugh:

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Quote from: lilacwoman on August 01, 2010, 12:37:06 AM

To find an appropriate role model you need to look for women 10-15 years younger than yourself and see how they are living and socialising as if you really are a woman trapped in a man's body the estrogen will let that woman come out but she will be a lot younger than you are.

Interesting. What do you mean she will be younger?
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JessicaR

I completely understand the notion of a second adolescence and effectively being a considerably younger woman than you were a man... I've been on HRT for 5 years and sometimes feel like I think like a much younger person. People that are close to me have noticed, too...

  I, too, feel that T had a profoundly negative effect on my state of mind from my "first" adolescence to when I started HRT. Like Izumi mentioned, stopping T was like lifting a veil that had been over me for 37 years... I was amazed at the clarity of thought... it's hard to articulate but everything just seemed "right."

  When I first realized what I was, I had never even heard the word, "transsexual." I thought there was something seriously wrong with me. I decided, back then, to be the best guy I could be. I lived my life through a mask... my male identity, and tried to be what everyone else expected me to be. Looking back, the more I tried to push "the girl" away and "man-up," the worse my ability to cope with reality became. Trying to deny my gender identity, over time, almost drove me to suicide. I think, before transition, that we're largely unaware of how much damage we do to ourselves by denying our own existence. "I should have done this YEARS ago," is a phrase I've heard lots of Transsexuals use.

Quote from: lilacwoman on August 01, 2010, 12:37:06 AM
the problem TS have is that until we get out of the closet and are a year or two down the hormones path we don't realise how much we can change.
The before and after thread shows the dramatic physical chanegs that can happen but mainly I see those happy smiling people are women not guys or gays...I doubt if guys could smile so naturally for the camera.
Thats the difference between true TS and all the other wannabes.
To find an appropriate role model you need to look for women 10-15 years younger than yourself and see how they are living and socialising as if you really are a woman trapped in a man's body the estrogen will let that woman come out but she will be a lot younger than you are.
If I could elaborate on what Lilacwoman stated,...   
The bottom line is that women, when given the chance to live their lives as women, will be obviously happy with their gender role, regardless of how they look in a picture. There are some that consider themselves part of the transgendered community that still consider themselves men but like the lifestyle, the attention and /or the feeling they get while "en femme." Someone who isn't truly transsexual would not be happy to live full time, take hormones, have GRS, etc.. I think that the outsiders'  culture links the T too closely to the GLB and makes some young transsexuals wonder, at first, if they're gay.... I know I did when I realized I was attracted to boys and it seriously confused me.


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jmaxley

It was when puberty hit that I really started having problems with depression and anxiety.  Female hormones do strange things to both my body and my brain.  One example...back in May, the doctor put me on Provera (progesterone pills) for a few days due to issues with the, err, reproductive organs.  Stupidly, I agreed to go on it.

I was supposed to take them for 10 days but only managed to make it to day 8 before having to quit.  I had an allergic reaction to the pills, dropped into a horrible suicidal depression that took me weeks to come out of, and right after stopping the pills had cramps so bad that a couple of days I couldn't move for hours (I never have cramps).  And it didn't resolve the problem; in fact, made it worse.

I noticed after I started taking supplements that upped my T levels I was less depressed and less anxious and it helped lessen the problem I was having with the reproductive organs.  Even if for no other reason, I think I should transition just so my body has the right hormone to run on (and less of the wrong ones).
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Northern Jane

Quote from: JessicaR on August 04, 2010, 09:45:59 PM..... makes some young transsexuals wonder, at first, if they're gay.... I know I did when I realized I was attracted to boys and it seriously confused me.

That was a SERIOUS issue back in the 1960's! By age 8 (1957) I knew my physical sex was wrong, by puberty I knew I was attracted to boys but I also knew I wasn't Gay - try explaining THAT to people back then!  ::) I was pronounced Gay by an old quack of a shrink at 15 and it wasn't until 2 years later that I finally saw a doctor who knew what transsexual was (thanks to Dr. Benjamin's book).
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Llewelyn

"Among the most interesting and refreshing things is that you can now think..  Yeah, with testosterone your mind is filled with Sex Sex Sex Sex Sex, if something happened to stimulate that thought you would carry it all day or until you did something about it.  Then Estrogen comes along and its just... gone, your mind feels less cluttered, more free to think about lots of different things, at once even, it seems really easy to do now, difficult before."

This sounds very appealing to me - I can't wait to begin HRT :) It seems ever since I hit my teens my head has been overly cluttered and it's hard enough to focus without having your thoughts wander in a sexual manner. Say if I wanted to doodle just randomly , whatever I would scrawl would end up feeling like a sexual organ no matter how screwed it looked up on paper. However I don't think I'll ever, ever find guys attractive though. Not in the slightist.
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Jamiee

Certain men I find attractive, actually a lot of them. Women, I find attractive too, but more in an aesthetic sense. I think women, their faces, their bodies, are just more innately beautiful than men are. However when I get aroused or fantasize about sex, its always with a man. In school I was always crazy about and had crushes on boys.

Yet, just like everybody said, I know and have always known I wasn't gay. In fact, most gay men just don't interest me. I guess that might be I know they won't see me as the woman/girl I've always wished I was on the outside instead of just inside. I don't know.
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lilacwoman

Quote from: Llewelyn However I don't think I'll ever, ever find guys attractive though. Not in the slightist.
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Write that sentence out and hide it away for ten years while estrogen works its magic and then show it to your husband    :D
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