Quote from: ativan on August 04, 2010, 12:29:37 AM
As life without gender. I don't think it's a necessary component. We would just understand it as that. Which when I think about that, it would eliminate a large amount of cowcrap in just about everything.

Androgyne...and maybe a couple other ones, or maybe not. Wait....I'm still thinking about it.......

So can you imagine life in two dimensions ?
What if we had 3 eyes instead of two ?
Oh, I know, let's imagine life where we were beings of light and had no corporeal body

Quote from: ativan on August 04, 2010, 12:29:37 AM
As life without gender. I don't think it's a necessary component. We would just understand it as that.

This is where i'm coming from at the moment (I voted other btw).  No need for it really - I like to think(hope really!) that society will evolve beyond gender eventually

Quote from: ZaidaZadkiel on August 04, 2010, 01:37:55 PM
So can you imagine life in two dimensions ?
What if we had 3 eyes instead of two ?
Oh, I know, let's imagine life where we were beings of light and had no corporeal body

More fun things to think about (I only see things as flat, no depth perception, one of my eyes (only two) see's about two ft) that's how I perceive it. If that's what our world was like, that's how we would perceive it. Is it half full or half empty. It's always debatable, but the truth is....It's a glass with water in it. No more, no less. Male or Female? It's a person. But, the debate goes on.
I don't feel either gender as much as I feel like me. That's the only way I can perceive it. 
OK, a two dimensional, three eye'd beings of light without genders world.

My rug and dish beckon me.......

Quote from: ativan on August 04, 2010, 08:18:47 PM
Is it half full or half empty

Both 

22 votes so far and pretty interesting results so far (I think)...

Quote from: ativan on August 04, 2010, 08:18:47 PM
It's always debatable, but the truth is....It's a glass with water in it. No more, no less. Male or Female? It's a person. But, the debate goes on.

So is it an empty glass of water or an empty glass?

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Quote from: Sameth on August 03, 2010, 04:05:54 PM
nada gender, ie. nullgender. i want a minimalist body, ie, the FtM body, no breasts, no penis, [no strange lumps sticking out anywhere is how i like to refer to it ] minimal hair. gender seems to me just a label of how you dress and hold yourself, it doesn't seem to go beyond that. i'm just a person. that's all.

however nobody ever gets it, so irl i am just a guy.

Sounds pretty Neutrois to me...

Hi.

Androgyne.
   Male & female & think both ways & quite happy as it is .

Mind you in telling people,  i just say im  a transfemale with a male background & that works ,

& in the main im accepted well , & many people with in our groups & others who we come in contact with just accept me as i am , & thats as a woman .thats with in the communitys where we live

...noeleena...

wait ,i'm the  only one who voted neutrois 
actually it's the first time i've ever heard this term , but once i read it , i was like 'yup -_- , that's the one' . i've always been like 'eww i don't wanna be a guy' and 'eww i don't wanna be a girl' ever since i was a baby , but since i had to squeeze myself into a binary i've always tried to fit into the guys' binary (yeah life would've been much simpler if i could do that) ,but wanting so much , actually needing , to transitioning to a female body(which later i found out it was a need to not being in my current body) , but after some researching , ern , well , more like asking people here about stuff and reading posts . i came to the conclusion that i'm actually gender-free , simply a person (that's why i always have this 'genderqueer ' thing below my name , it's more of a general term ,well at least i thought so . thanks for the new info

depends on what day of the week you ask me... any of these could fit:

# Androgyne
# Genderqueer
# Third gender
# Genderfluid
# Other (please specify): non binary gender variant; non-op, non hrt trans; etc.
# Don't know (and why does it even matter what gender I am anyway?)

I haven't voted as I haven't yet figured out which I might be 

Z

Quote from: no_id on August 06, 2010, 02:28:31 AM
So is it an empty glass of water or an empty glass?

Is it always a negative thing to see the glass as half empty? Suppose such a perception motivates you to fill the glass - so to speak - whereas seeing it as half full leads to complacency. Focusing on the lack in one's life can then be a driving force for success. Not so negative now, is it?  The glass and water serve one purpose admirably well, and that is to slake thirst. Trying to decide if it is half full or half empty does absolutely nothing to further that purpose. If anything, it gets in the way and delays the ultimate objective of drinking. Without anything in the glass, it is just a glass. 
(most of that is from Derek Lin, from a Tao perspective.....)

I've gone with other, for similar reasons to Jenny's really. Though I freely admit that my thoughts and feelings about myself are constantly in flux and i reserve the right to change my mind without warning.

I chose Intergender before I read your defination, If I'm asked IRL what gender I am I'll say that I'm Intergendered androgyne if I get a strange look or whats that I say basicly i'm genderqueer if a young child asks if I am Boy or girl I say I'm somewhere inbetween But I see Intergender as a Mix some things Male & some things Female and Some things "Other/Both/neither" some parts of my gender identity are stable other elements are fluid being Both, neither, male or female or anywhere inbetween The most stable part of my identity is what I want my body to be,  the most fluid is in my emotional responce.  if someone hurts me badly emotionally by what they say or do I could want to hit them (male),need a big cry (female) or turn it into a joke (other) or all three or any two I know If I bottle up the emotion or hide through humour I'm likely to to explode into a mess of violent tears that my tedybear or pillow will recieve in a harsh way. if in this poll I could choose multipul labels I would have gone intergender androgyne genderqueer ambigender, third gender and gender fluid and maybe other.

Quote from: ativan on August 06, 2010, 10:43:12 AM
Is it always a negative thing to see the glass as half empty? Suppose such a perception motivates you to fill the glass - so to speak - whereas seeing it as half full leads to complacency. Focusing on the lack in one's life can then be a driving force for success. Not so negative now, is it?  The glass and water serve one purpose admirably well, and that is to slake thirst. Trying to decide if it is half full or half empty does absolutely nothing to further that purpose. If anything, it gets in the way and delays the ultimate objective of drinking. Without anything in the glass, it is just a glass. 
(most of that is from Derek Lin, from a Tao perspective.....)

Touché my dear Ativan.

Genderqueer is as genderqueer does. Or thinks. Or something.

genderqueer thinks?

Well, sometimes it has a mind of its own.

I felt like the search was over, I had finally come home when I discovered the concept of Bigender. It fits me like a glove.

Welcome home then. Milk needs fetching and there's a funny smell coming from the drain, sort it out please.

LOL, well, look for the plunger and give me $5 to go to the 7-11.

A pint of milk costs you $5? Blimey, I'll do it meself for 45p.

Quote from: Crow on August 02, 2010, 11:55:16 AM
I suppose I would describe myself as something of an even three-way split between genderqueer, female-to-male, and genderfluid (between male and rather-effeminate-androgyne, rather than between male and female).

Pretty much exactly what I was going to write - though I picked "genderfluid" on the poll because I felt it fits the overall idea of me, than anything else.