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Advice for anyone considering SRS

Started by umop ap!sdn, April 14, 2010, 01:31:09 AM

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umop ap!sdn

Just some thoughts I had based on my personal experiences with what my SRS and recovery is like. I decided I want to share my viewpoint as someone who has gone through with it so that those who have not can hopefully be well prepared and know what to expect. So here goes....

1.) You'll have quite a bit of pain and discomfort afterwards and need to be off your feet a lot. Make sure you're up for it.... prepare yourself however you can. Your surgeon will give you pain pills that will help a lot after the first few days, and when your supply runs out you may want to go to your GP to see about getting some more. Even with meds, the discomfort will get old long before it ends. Just remind yourself: it's only discomfort, it's temporary, it's to be expected and not indicative of a problem, and in time it'll go away completely. You'll have good days and bad days, but each week will be easier than the one before. Also, if you have a job you'll have to go back to work while you're still sore, which will take a lot out of you. Even a trip to the grocery store can be very taxing. Because you'll be bedridden for a while, you'll be weak when you do start getting up, you'll feel exhausted a lot, and you may find you've lost or gained weight. Also don't take for granted your mobility, because you'll be less mobile than you think. If you have a return flight, don't count on being able to walk through the entire airport unless you've already established beforehand what your limits are; airports have wheelchair service so you'll have that option available to you.

2.) It's worth the pain and then some! You will be amazed how much better it is having had this done, particularly once you are healed up enough to get to know the new you by touch. I'm not exaggerating when I say that it's way more awesome than I can put into words. You'll also find that you're capable of much greater levels of pleasant sensation.

3.) For those who are squeamish about being cut into in that particular area, I can assure you there really isn't reason to be. After all is said and done it's the same as having an injury on any other part of your body. You'll want to baby yourself for a while (which you should!) but the pain isn't any more awful than if you sprain your ankle or throw out your back.

4.) You're going to realize that you've lost something, though hopefully nothing more than a plaything. Before you decide to have SRS, weigh your feelings on this. Are you disgusted by what you have, and if so does that disgust outweigh any enjoyment you might be getting from it? Or alternatively, does your desire to have a smooth feminine contour sans bulge outweigh the security of knowing that at least for now you're capable of pleasure? Know that if you have that ability now you'll almost certainly have the ability to enjoy much more afterwards.

5.) Don't let dilation intimidate you; by the time the packing is removed you'll have healed more than enough and it won't be nearly as painful as you're probably imagining. Also keep in mind that human skin is much more resilient than you think, so don't stress over having to apply a lot of pressure because the incisions will hold very well. Be very diligent with your dilation! Do it more often and for longer than your surgeon recommends, and don't let sleepiness, social life, infection, post-surgical complications, pain, injury, illness, depression, chores, personal obligations, lost luggage, political unrest, incarceration, coma, UFO abductions, television, intoxication, or "I don't feel like it" be excuses. Find a way to either limit your work schedule or take a long enough break in the middle of each day to squeeze in a brief dilation - if your job doesn't accommodate you on this then you *will* have difficulty maintaining your depth and width. Dilate every night before bed and set your alarm early enough to give you time to dilate every morning, and on your days off make up for lost time by doing it more often. Never go half a day without dilating or you'll have a difficult session when you finally do dilate.

(If you have a long flight home then you may not be able to avoid waiting 20+ hours to dilate, but definitely do it just before you check out of the hotel and again the moment you step into your home. If you can arrange a long enough layover on the return flight then you can take the extra time to dilate in a restroom.)

6.) Absolutely do not settle for the lowest bidder. This doesn't mean you have to go to the most expensive surgeon; if you are willing to travel, there are some very competent ones who are much more affordable than, say, the North American surgeons (I don't know anything about surgeons in Europe or Australia so can't really comment if that's where you live). Find out who is the best surgeon for you - don't take my or anyone else's word for it. Do a lot of research. Remember, your new acquisition will be yours for the rest of your life and there are no do-overs, so make sure you are satisfied with your surgeon's technique, typical results, and risks of complications. Also ask your surgeon all your questions. Don't let them gloss over the things you care about; not every doctor has a great bedside manner so you should make sure to get enough answers to meet your satisfaction.

7.) Make sure you have loose clothes to wear while you're recovering. This is especially important for your undergarments. If you wear tight panties now so that tucking can be more effective, go out before your surgery and buy a dozen or more pairs that are one or two sizes larger. Once you've nothing to tuck, tight underwear will press uncomfortably against your surgical site. You'll also be wearing a maxi pad most of the time for a while, and that will take away from the amount of space thereby increasing the pressure and worsening your discomfort.


The standard disclaimers apply: IANAD, YMMV, unsolicited advice - accept at your own risk. :)

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rejennyrated

As a very old timer (now nearly 3 decades postop) I would echo most of that 100% But for the sake of balance I hope you will forgive me for posting my experience.

The things I would just slightly take issue with are point 1. In my experience you may have pain and discomfort, or you may not. We are all different. I was one of the fortunate few who had little enough pain that I never even took a single pill for it! My point is that you mustn't get hung up on someone else's experience because your body is your body and it will react in an individual way. As Dàwkbua says YMMV.

Point 4 I simply don't agree with at all. In fact I really don't understand it. I have never for one second felt that I had lost anything. But I guess that is another, YMMV point.

The other point I would take slight issue with is point 6. - not the bit about trying to get the best surgeon - that is obviously a good policy... but the phrase "there are no do-overs".

As someone who has had a very successfull "do-over" and now wishes I had done so a lot sooner I would say don't be afraid to be critical of what you get as an end result. Whilst you should always go for the best surgeon in the first instance, you must not be scared to coming forward for a second go, and perhaps even by someone else, if the results are not what you hope. Revision is also a lot cheaper than the initial job providing the first surgeon did a reasonably good job on the fundamentals.

Other than that I agree.
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umop ap!sdn

Well what I mean in #4 is that something that's always been there is suddenly and permanently absent. A person can be glad it's gone will simultaneously feeling like oh my goodness it's really gone. Also, in time the patient will have to relearn how to enjoy her new anatomy, because what worked for the old anatomy will no longer be possible.

I had forgotten about your second surgery. :) For sure like you said it's completely possible to touch up a good result. On the other hand I've seen horror story type photos of results from cheap surgeons. Sometimes, important parts are missing and can't be restored. Maybe the summary of all this is to just go to a good surgeon and not a cheap one. :)
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George

In few days I will have to begin with dilating. Is it very painful at the beginning? I am little afraid of...
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Britney♥Bieber

I've read a few different things but I'm really curious. Would my vagina look and feel and smell taste etc like a "real" vagina? Will it function the same, lubrication and orgasms?

Jessica.C

Quote from: andthenwekisss on July 27, 2010, 06:39:05 AM
I've read a few different things but I'm really curious. Would my vagina look and feel and smell taste etc like a "real" vagina? Will it function the same, lubrication and orgasms?

I think i asked those exact same questions. https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,77703.msg537519.html#msg537519

GREAT Read Here: https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,77703.msg539581.html#msg539581


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Britney♥Bieber

Quote from: Jessica.C on July 27, 2010, 06:58:31 AM
I think i asked those exact same questions. https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,77703.msg537519.html#msg537519

GREAT Read Here: https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,77703.msg539581.html#msg539581

Thanks bb!! :D

Good luck on your surgery <3 Hope all goes well. I hope I don't have to wait too long. I'm pre hrt but hopefully I don't have to wait years!

FairyGirl

Quote from: Dàwkbua on April 14, 2010, 01:31:09 AM
Just some thoughts I had based on my personal experiences with what my SRS and recovery is like. I decided I want to share my viewpoint as someone who has gone through with it so that those who have not can hopefully be well prepared and know what to expect. So here goes....

Very good advice dear Lotus Flower, I hope you are doing well.
Girls rule, boys drool.
If I keep a green bough in my heart, then the singing bird will come.
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umop ap!sdn

Quote from: George on July 27, 2010, 06:08:44 AM
In few days I will have to begin with dilating. Is it very painful at the beginning? I am little afraid of...
I'm a bit late getting back to you on this but when the clinic staff person showed me how to dilate she basically positioned the instrument and pushed it straight in - OUCH - pulling it out was a similarly uncomfortable experience. I found it a lot easier to do myself in which I could gently move it rather than having someone else force it.

I can't really say all that much about how "realistic" the result is, given my current inability to maintain width, but I can say that my most recent sexual partner, with whom I was intimate before my op, seemed to think that my surgeon has done very well.

Oh and I saw a doctor just recently, and he inspected my vulva; I didn't reveal my TS status and he didn't ask me anything unusual or comment on anything.

Quote from: FairyGirl on July 27, 2010, 07:46:06 AM
Very good advice dear Lotus Flower, I hope you are doing well.
Thank you. :) I wish I were doing well though.
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sneakersjay

As someone who has just had SRS from the other direction, Ditto to everything the OP has said.  change dilation to pumping, though the timing for that isn't as critical.  :)


Jay


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seawitch

There seems to be a missing gap here lol. One Dr Chet advised me to exert as much pressure inward as possible but not to the point of 'Pain' notice I said pain and NOT discomfort. Two as you increase the stent size its not for depth but for the opening ie the hole cut thru solid muscle. This I personally found to cause the most discomfort and at times pain on initial insertion. Use LOTS of lub, after trying a number of different types I went back to KY jelly. As I have mentioned in another post by the time I got to the 1 1/4 inch stent I found that dumping the lucite ones from Dr Chet and using a silicone dildo was much easier and pleasurable.

Now the biggie that NO one has mentioned. All that nerve tissue in skin has been rearranged and is now located in new locations. Be prepared for sensations that are not were your brain has always told you where they were lol. I had itching sensations that were above and removed slightly from my new body ie scrotal skin itching. Its a very weird sensation to say the least, but your brain will re-wire itself to the new location in time. I suppose its not totally unlike phantom sensations that aputee's experience or perhaps muscle memory is a better parallel.

The key here is dilation it must be carried out to the letter. The sooner you get over the chore mind set and into a pleasure mind set the better it will be for you.

Pleasure zones: Dr Chet seems to like larger clits and he is very good at it ie sensation, but I have found that just above my uretha is quite pleasurable as well. I have not notice any outstanding sensation from the questionable 'G spot' I have found that at the back of my vagina and on the back side ie tailbone side it is quite pleasureable and erotic ie at the bottom.

I have found that guys with penis's less then 6 inches that there is not a great deal of physical pleasure unless I am on top riding them. It seems to be the only way to achieve maximum penetration and still be able to grind my pubic bone against theirs to gain clitoral stimulus. Needless to say my preferences are for men who are at least 6'' up to 7'' and I have not had anyone 'Bottom Out in Me'.

Oh yeah one last thing. I found that my BA was much more uncomfortable then my GRS was. If you do have BA then expect it to take at least a year to a year and a half for the implants to settle into a more natural looking form.
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FairyGirl

Dee sweetie, why such a harsh objection? Actually I thought it was a good paragraph, and something well considered. Perhaps it wasn't worded in the best way to get the point across, but it is a valid consideration.  Especially the part that says:

Quote from: Dàwkbua on April 14, 2010, 01:31:09 AMAre you disgusted by what you have, and if so does that disgust outweigh any enjoyment you might be getting from it? Or alternatively, does your desire to have a smooth feminine contour sans bulge outweigh the security of knowing that at least for now you're capable of pleasure? Know that if you have that ability now you'll almost certainly have the ability to enjoy much more afterwards.

As a testosterone poisoned male-bodied female I had a lot of sex with a lot of partners of both sexes. Was I willing to give that up? The answer for me was a resounding, YES! I absolutely hated having the insatiable sex drive of a bull elephant. All the sex with all the partners never brought me any lasting happiness, just that bottomless pit that could never be filled. It was not worth it to me to retain that male part simply for the sake of having sex with it. By the time my SRS rolled around, I was over it. I pretty much despised what it did to me my whole life anyway, and all the sex in the world was never going to cure my dysphoria.

Everyone who has SRS takes the chance of losing sensitivity, of never again being able to orgasm, or even losing your libido altogether. Most surgeons are able to retain that for us, but something we need to ask ourselves beforehand is if we are willing to take that chance to be whole and complete. I most definitely was, and even though at 8 weeks I have yet to experience my first post-op orgasm I'm still glad I made the choice, even if it means it never happens. I can get close enough anyway, and having sex is not the driving force in my life as it was before transition and hormones.

This is advice to those considering SRS, not those of us for whom it is a done deal or an already scheduled foregone conclusion.  The cold reality is that once those male bits are gone, they aren't coming back, EVER, so I think that is something that should be weighed in the balance for those considering SRS.

Girls rule, boys drool.
If I keep a green bough in my heart, then the singing bird will come.
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FairyGirl

#12
you were lucky! :)  I hated it but always felt like I was a slave to my libido; it controlled my life and affected everything I did. That only got progressively worse as I got older, and didn't go away until HRT which to me was blessed relief. Lots of sex, especially sex with men, was one of my more self-destructive ways of dealing with the dysphoria, which of course now I know that wasn't the solution and only made it worse. Had I continued down that path it would have killed me eventually. I'm just glad to be cured now.

Girls rule, boys drool.
If I keep a green bough in my heart, then the singing bird will come.
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katgirl74

I can relate. T was this poison that just controlled my mind so much of the time, and my libido was out of control in ways that were negative and potentially destructive. I remember the calm that came over me after starting HRT. It was amazing. There was not longer this negative drive. My libido is now perfect, healthy, and positive. So different from what I experienced pre HRT and SRS
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Colleen Ireland

OMG, Katgirl & Fairygirl, me too (I'm still in that state)!  Dee, please realize not everyone feels the way you do, and it's not the only valid way to feel.  And those of us with the raging libido DO suffer.  When I read things like those posted by Katgirl and Fairygirl, they give me hope.  When I first heard a post-op say that she lost most of her libido on HRT and the rest of it post-op, I was initially horrified, but when I stopped and thought about it, I realized it wouldn't be so terrible - in fact it might be a blessing.  And to be able to have sex and feel RIGHT about it, THAT would be heaven!

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Cruelladeville

I made a pact with myself....(pre any surgeries)..... that I would dismiss from my mind any unrealistic expectations... in fact I kept myself very disciplined this way...

Going into everything eyes wide open....

And come what may, I'd decided pre outcome....I'd be most grateful for 'anything' that helped me live a better more fulfilling womanly life...e ven if it was just in a little way.

But I was never dumb or deluded enough to think I could have a life as if I'd been born biologically female from birth - you know - female puberty, first periods, uterine cramps....child-birth.....babies et al and then Gyno problems which can beset a woman in later life, things such as hysterectomies....

Porn and its ilk has a lot to answer for.... it likes to project women as ever-ready nymphs with insatiable labial appetites....if any of you here have good friendships with women then you'll understand the following well...

'Porn reveals a great deal of ugly truths about men, but seeds many lies about women'

Seems to me a lot of peeps on here think that getting a vagina is a bit like buying a designer handbag.....

You make the right selection of brand Prada, Mulberry, Gucci, D&G (Chet, Brassard, Suporn, Bowers, )..... the best you can afford (exclusivity deluxe model)....and you gain pre/post-purchase brand confidence (or not) by how many others ladies have bought into the same fashion accessory as you..... ??

And then when you wake up, just a few weeks later.... there you are... stepping out into a perfect new life... with your longed for luxury item all beautiful, shiny new and picture perfect in tow......

Yeah right....

Here's a fact:

No surgeries can ever make 'you' mentally or thoughtfully feel more female...or girlie....than how you feel about yourself right here, right now...

Though highly skillful surgical outcomes can and do help improve lives, (and not just transgendered ones)....the truthful answer post any surgery re what you can hope for is this:

Maybe some improvement in well-being, maybe not..... there are never any guarantees... (No matter how enticing the sales spiel or literature)

So if you go into any procedure expecting too much, you will be more likely disappointed....

Do I think you need true grit, and determination to get through surgeries?? Definitely.....

And I can assure you that this process is not a thing I'd recommend for for the feint-hearted or fantasy female obsessed....
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Debra

Thank you, OP! Very good info, IMHO. ALL of it

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FairyGirl

Quote from: Cruelladeville on August 18, 2010, 10:28:09 AMHere's a fact:

No surgeries can ever make 'you' mentally or thoughtfully feel more female...or girlie....than how you feel about yourself right here, right now...

Though highly skillful surgical outcomes can and do help improve lives, (and not just transgendered ones)....the truthful answer post any surgery re what you can hope for is this:

Maybe some improvement in well-being, maybe not..... there are never any guarantees... (No matter how enticing the sales spiel or literature)

So if you go into any procedure expecting too much, you will be more likely disappointed....

Do I think you need true grit, and determination to get through surgeries?? Definitely.....

And I can assure you that this process is not a thing I'd recommend for for the feint-hearted or fantasy female obsessed....

Quote from: FairyGirl on May 01, 2010, 05:23:59 PMI know that having SRS does not make one female any more than being born with a penis makes one male, nor can surgeries endow us with gender. Anyone who thinks otherwise will be sadly disappointed. The only thing surgeries can do is affirm who we already know ourselves to be, and help to complete this alignment of our bodies and our lives with the gender we already know we are inside. It is not only a great physical step, but a symbolic one as well. SRS will not make me a woman; I'm already a woman, and SRS is simply, yet profoundly, my rite of passage into completeness. It is, in the most significant and irrevocable way, the end of one journey and the beginning of my new life, body and spirit whole at last.

Having surgery isn't, or shouldn't be, about getting a designer vagina or thinking it's going to somehow embue you with a complete female history lol. It's about completing who you already are and have always been. Doesn't matter if you were raised as male, as female, or as chimpanzee. This is who you will be, from now on. If that little piece of reality is in sympathetic alignment with who you have come to know yourself to be from the inside, then as far as your gender is concerned you will be content and find peace at last (this is what has happened for me and for that, thank god for my surgeon). If not, you will still be miserable, minus a couple body parts you used to have.

Girls rule, boys drool.
If I keep a green bough in my heart, then the singing bird will come.
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umop ap!sdn

Quote from: Dee_pntx on August 15, 2010, 11:06:17 AMIf that's how you see things then you have no business having SRS, you need to go back for a LOT of therapy.
At the moment I wouldn't recommend anyone have SRS. Ya work your hiney off for a long time to get that which you've always felt you should have then a few months go by and it shrinks down to nothing.  :(
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FairyGirl

Quote from: Dàwkbua on August 18, 2010, 12:40:26 PM
At the moment I wouldn't recommend anyone have SRS. Ya work your hiney off for a long time to get that which you've always felt you should have then a few months go by and it shrinks down to nothing.  :(
I'm really sorry you're having troubles dear Dàwkbua, I hope it gets better 
Girls rule, boys drool.
If I keep a green bough in my heart, then the singing bird will come.
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