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Mastering the man-walk

Started by Meepit, August 25, 2010, 02:25:42 AM

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Meepit

How in the world can I walk like a guy? Apparently, it's another one of my dead giveaways and I just haven't found any solid info. on what separates a masculine walk from a feminine one.

I TRIED to casually come out to a friend who said there was no way I was a guy because I "walk really girly" among other things that weren't taken as lighthearted  :-\.

Anyway, I'd love to get some coaching or advice on how to walk more like a guy because every time I walk now I'm always really aware and it just comes off as awkward and unnatural. It also reminds me about my hips and how I can't help but walk with them rolling slightly....

Any tips guys?
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thestory

What I did for a while was observe others. Being an animation major helped observation skills quite a bit in my case so I got a lot of chances just to study walking in people in general. Men have very varied walks just like anyone else and even they roll their hips. Since we were born with more generous proportions in that area it is magnified so it is good to be aware of hip motion.
A lot of advice online will tell you to be direct. Walk like you have somewhere to go and don't doddle so much. Be more deliberate and less shy with your steps and use your shoulders more, arms a bit as well. Dont over do it of course.... you may just look obnoxiously perky  ;D
Another biggie is when you are standing still don't rest your weight so much on one leg. then your hip will pop out and be accentuated again. Stand more even.
It may be easier to keep in mind there should be some sensitive bits between your legs so no putting your legs together so much.

Uh.... I dunno what other tips I can give right now. There is a lot to it and mindset probably helps too. try not to be so shy. make yourself look too small and its considered feminine in most cases.
You can always imitate different guys walks and practice off of those. You have female anatomy and were raised to walk like one. You have to relearn it so don't worry you cant be the only one with a girly walk here. It may just take time.

Hope this helps.
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lilacwoman

I've lost count of the forums I've been banned from after saying that MtFs should have female body language so it's nice to hear a FtM who wants to walk like a guy.
I see the difference as being a male walks like a clockwork toy with pelvis remaining level and legs just going back and farwards while some females have pelvises that go up and down as the legs work...the fashion models strutting down a catwalk do this to exaggeration. Girls in a hurry swing their arms out to the side from their elbow.
If a guy does the same it's cos he's effeminate.
To walk male keep the body and pelvis rigid, take longish steps and arms still.
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Calistine

The thing is part of it is your anatomy. I imagine with t and fat redistribution it would be easier.
Also typically, guys walk with their shoulders and girls walk with their hips.
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Meepit

@ Kamren: Yeah I've tried to study animations on youtube and such (I chose this approach because I don't exactly want to be staring down guys, especially from behind!) only to find that it seems a bit overdone in animations and not natural. Also they go too fast to keep up with, what with the hands going one way and the legs another! It's just like trying to keep track of a single rotor blade on a helicopter separately! But I'll definitely try the be-more-confident approach. That seems to be why I've also been somewhat feminine, a shyish, awkward, slouchy walk. I also tend to lead with my toes.....annoying really. Thanks for your advice! I'll take it into practice whenever I can and see how it goes.

@ Lilacwoman: I've searched this forum for masculine walking tips only to be overflowed with tips for you girls! I actually tried reversing the advice but I think that just made me look gawky and un-rhythmed (perhaps I'm being too critical?). The rigid pelvis is something I haven't heard before so I'll definitely try that out thanks for that!

@ Kyle XD: I'm dying to get on T to redistribute all that weight down there to help with the hip rolling! Could you elaborate on the "walk with their shoulders" part? I've heard that elsewhere but I didn't exactly get a proper visual of how the shoulders play a part.
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Calistine

Quote from: Meepit on August 25, 2010, 03:47:07 AM
@ Kamren: Yeah I've tried to study animations on youtube and such (I chose this approach because I don't exactly want to be staring down guys, especially from behind!) only to find that it seems a bit overdone in animations and not natural. Also they go too fast to keep up with, what with the hands going one way and the legs another! It's just like trying to keep track of a single rotor blade on a helicopter separately! But I'll definitely try the be-more-confident approach. That seems to be why I've also been somewhat feminine, a shyish, awkward, slouchy walk. I also tend to lead with my toes.....annoying really. Thanks for your advice! I'll take it into practice whenever I can and see how it goes.

@ Lilacwoman: I search this forum for masculine walking tips only to be overflowed with tips for you girls! I actually tried reversing the advice but I think that just made me look gawky and un-rhythmed (perhaps I'm being too critical?). The rigid pelvis is something I haven't heard before so I'll definitely try that out thanks for that!

@ Kyle XD: I'm dying to get on T to redistribute all that weight down there to help with the hip rolling! Could you elaborate on the "walk with their shoulders" part? I've heard that elsewhere but I didn't exactly get a proper visual of how the shoulders play a part.
Well they use more of their upper body in general.
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Meepit

Quote from: Kyle XD on August 25, 2010, 03:48:11 AM
Well they use more of their upper body in general.
Ahh I see. I think that's another thing T will help me with then....I'm hoping my center of gravity will move and stop the hip rolling.....
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thestory

Quote from: Meepit on August 25, 2010, 03:47:07 AM
@ Kamren: Yeah I've tried to study animations on youtube and such (I chose this approach because I don't exactly want to be staring down guys, especially from behind!) only to find that it seems a bit overdone in animations and not natural. Also they go too fast to keep up with, what with the hands going one way and the legs another! It's just like trying to keep track of a single rotor blade on a helicopter separately! But I'll definitely try the be-more-confident approach. That seems to be why I've also been somewhat feminine, a shyish, awkward, slouchy walk. I also tend to lead with my toes.....annoying really. Thanks for your advice! I'll take it into practice whenever I can and see how it goes.


No Haha! I didn't mean look at animation. I was just saying working in animation has helped me be observant. Sorry if you misunderstood. I just meant use observational skills to look at real people. I would use video recordings if you are uncomfortable looking at people in public.
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Zelane

This is an old link that might help a bit.

http://www.biomotionlab.ca/Demos/BMLwalker.html

At least to give you some ideas.
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Jeatyn

I just wanted to interject that if you're a guy, and you walk a certain way, the fact you're a guy automatically makes it a guys walk.

I wouldn't worry too much about the whole "but you can't be a guy, you walk like a girl!" comment - you will hear 100 thousand reasons why you can't possibly be a guy if the person you're telling isn't ready to accept it.

Walking awkwardly and unnaturally and being self conscience is going to be a lot more damaging than a bit of a hip wiggle.

If Vin Diesel walked like you would everyone suddenly start reading him female?
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Shang

From what I can see, girls have a rolling sway in the hip area and guys have a kind of twitch--I can't master the twitch because of issues, but I have this walk where my hips sway unbelievably.  But I second Jeatyn, too.  If someone was to say my walk was girly so I can't be a guy (and I do have a girly walk--if you picture models, that's how I walk) I'd point out guys that walk like me.  You can probably point out guys that walk like you, too.
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insideontheoutside

Guys have junk. Guys do not have hips (that is, they have a whole different pelvis shape). There you have why guys walk how they walk. It's not necessarily a "guy walk" it's just anatomy, as a couple others have pointed out. Girls have hips and usually sway a little when they walk.
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Papillon

My take on it?  Hips pushed forwards and tilted up slightly (compensates for the different pelivic shape and angle).  Pushing them into this position seems to automatically calm the hip-swaying thang too.  Don't do it so much that it feels uncomfortable.  You don't want to queer your back.

Point knees and toes slightly outwards, with knees bent a little more than you usually would. 

Lean back slightly from the hips.  Relax shoulders.  Walk with purpose.
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Osiris

I have a very feminine back curvature which makes my butt stick out and sway my hips when I walk. Something I do is look at myself in the mirror and then adjust my back so that it makes a straight line all the way down, basically making it so my butt doesn't stick out. If you walk with that line in mind it naturally helps widen your stance and gives you a more masculine stride.

Edit: Papillon, we were typing at the same time and basically described the same thing in different ways. Like you said. Hips pushed forward. That's what I do to straighten my back.
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Fencesitter

Quote from: Meepit on August 25, 2010, 03:47:07 AM
@ Kamren: Yeah I've tried to study animations on youtube and such (I chose this approach because I don't exactly want to be staring down guys, especially from behind!)

Buy yourself a pair of sunglasses! Sunglasses are great for that kind of things.

But apart from that - don't worry too much. Your walk may change a lot with fat redistribution and muscles building up.

And I know a straight transguy who wiggles a bit as his hips are large (transition completed). It does not even look gay, and even less female. And I also know a couple of bio guys who wiggle a bit for the same reasons.
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lilacwoman

here's the man walk thing.

first girl I saw when I left home this morning was hurrying along with her bag over her right arm bent at the elbow and her left arm was bent partway and swinging out to the side in time to her steps, absolutely female and impossible to imagine any guy doing that.

this is a way of coming across as a strong guy
http://www.tsbmag.com/2009/02/11/how-to-walk-like-an-alpha-male/

Here's John T doing a walk you can see any day.  see he's deliberately lifting his shoulders as he walks. tough guy strut and eyeing all the girls as he goes.   
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lilacwoman

oops.. didn't know we could post youtube clips on here.
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lilacwoman

in that clip when John turns to look at the girl in the striped top you can see how her hips are doing the girl thing.
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Cameron James

I've always been told the best way to walk like a man is to "walk with your dick."

I learned from a King friend I have. Buy a strap on with harness if you don't have one already and have a friend grab the dick and walk you around the room by pulling it. It'll give you an over exaggerated idea of how to walk like a guy. Your legs will spread apart more, they won't cross, and your hips won't have a feminine swish. It'll really help highlight how different is it to walk like a male than like a female.


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zombiesarepeaceful

I've been told since I was a kid that I "walk like a farmer". I took this as a compliment...however my mom was trying to insult me.

Basically I"ve always walked with my shoulders...think of how girls swivel  their hips when they walk...guys sort of swivel their shoulders.
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