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Being a Girl: It's the little things

Started by Melody Maia, August 26, 2010, 07:11:32 PM

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Angela

For me its when I go shopping for a new pair of shoes or a skirt.
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clairezoey

when im chatting with a guy from facebook that thought i was a girl.wahahhahaa
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Angela

Clairezoey, you are being very rude to this entire forum.Please stop.
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Tad

Quote from: Sinnyo on August 28, 2010, 05:06:32 AM
Squee, yeah. I don't think I could turn back from nights with a Lush bubble bath and some soothing music put through wireless headphones. I fall short of having a book or nice glass of something to hand, but I started the whole routine when I began to feel most comfortable in my transition. It's the sensation afterwards, of soft skin and fluffy towelling, which I think puts me in a most feminine place. ^_^
Baths are most excellent.. something I will not give up. Sitting in a warm bubly tub with abook is osooo relaxing.
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jmaxley

Quote from: clairezoey on August 28, 2010, 09:00:01 AM
when im chatting with a guy from facebook that thought i was a girl.wahahhahaa

I smell troll.
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Alainaluvsu

Women also tend to do alot of things with a bent wrist (it sounds stereotypical, but it's truth). When sitting, they'll lay their elbow on an armrest and have their forearm going straight into the air, with their wrist bent either frontward or backward. When grabbing stuff, girls tend to bend their wrist while grabbing it (say something out of a bowl). Women also bend their wrists when using hand gestures when talking. Guys typically keep their wrist straight at all times when sitting idle or when using hand gestures. I guess this is why people do the whole "limp wristed" joke when talking about a guy who is effeminate.

Of course, also women tend to bend their knees all the way when going down to pick something up, even if it's a small item like a pen. Guys tend to just bend at their back and, with a sweeping motion of the arm, grab it. Of course I've seen women pick up stuff like men, and men pick up things like women, but I've observed these generally are the differences in the way both sexes do things :)
To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are.



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Sinnyo

Quote from: Alainaluvsu on August 29, 2010, 02:40:28 AM
Of course, also women tend to bend their knees all the way when going down to pick something up, even if it's a small item like a pen.

That one has me practising. It's the only way to bend down in a dignified fashion, and womens' clothing often seems to demand it, but it doesn't half show you up if your knees get stiff! *Click click* >.<
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kyril

You're all much better at this than I ever was - lovely ladies all of you :)


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Colleen Ireland

Quote from: kyril on August 29, 2010, 05:36:58 AM
You're all much better at this than I ever was - lovely ladies all of you :)

Well, of course, silly!  That just stands to reason, doesn't it.  Most (all?) of us never were any good as a "man", either...

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Alainaluvsu

Quote from: Sinnyo on August 29, 2010, 04:34:22 AM
That one has me practising. It's the only way to bend down in a dignified fashion, and womens' clothing often seems to demand it, but it doesn't half show you up if your knees get stiff! *Click click* >.<

My knees pop too  :-\ Age is the devil!
To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are.



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Sinnyo

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Alainaluvsu

That's when mine started popping! lol

Now I'm almost 28 and they pop louder :( but they don't hurt.
To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are.



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Colleen Ireland

My knees don't pop, but my thumbs do, lol!  All I have to do is bend them, and they crack, loudly!  However, I can bend at the knee no problem - I'm 54.  In fact, I can still stand up from sitting cross-legged on the floor, without using my hands!

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Alainaluvsu

Quote from: Colleen Ireland on August 29, 2010, 03:06:50 PM
My knees don't pop, but my thumbs do, lol!  All I have to do is bend them, and they crack, loudly!  However, I can bend at the knee no problem - I'm 54.  In fact, I can still stand up from sitting cross-legged on the floor, without using my hands!

I hope I can do that at that age! Almost every joint in my body pops. My elbows, my hips, my toes, ankles, shoulders, knees .. if it moves, it makes noise!
To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are.



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Stephanie

Effortless stereotypical Feminine body-language and behaviours are caused for the most part by having an entirely feminine brain.   I know that in my case parts of my brain were feminised in utero, while other parts developed along male lines.    My sister from whom I have learnt a lot, displays all the gestures, body-language, and facial expressions of the typical female and she does so completely spontaneously and naturally.    She didn't have to study other girls and women for a second in order to become skilled at presenting at all times and in all situations gestures etc that will mark her as undeniably female.    The reason her every movement. gesture, and facial expression are so natural and effortless is I believe entirely due to her having an entirely feminised brain.
    I am not suggesting that anyone should stop trying to suppress their genetic gender body-language etc or stop studying genetic males/females for tips.  What I am suggesting is don't become obsessed with gesturing like a woman, or walking like a guy.  Don't analyse your target gender's mannerisms to death.   If you go too far down this road it is unlikely that you will ever succeed in getting your 'act' down pat, and be assured it will be acting and not expressing your inner man/woman.  In fact if you look to other people to be giving a gender 'performance' you will just succeed in attracting unwelcome attention and criticism towards you. 
It is not the gestures and mannerisms per se that are important but the mindset that produces the body-language.  Cisgendered people have an unshakeable believe that they are male of female and this along with years of exposure to the effects of hormones and physical anatomy - to say nothing of male or female socialisation - produces all the gestures, mannerisms, body-language, facial expressions, and ways of walking.     Do you have that unshakeable belief that you are your target gender?    Can you honestly say that there is no one and no argument that could convince you that you are not female if you are  an MTF.   Or that you are not male if you are an FTM?   It is that unshakeable belief in their core gender identity that gives men and women complete confidence to freely go about in the world and be themselves without fear of ridicule or physical and or psychological attack. 
One of the reasons I believe that transsexuality is NOT either a paraphelia or a 'mental-illness' is that despite the fact that we have very little of the hormones of the so-called opposite sex, and despite years of heavy socialisation to think, act and behave in our perceived (by other people) gender, we still insist to other people, or only just ourselves that despite all appearances to the contrary we are actually female/male (delete the one that doesn't apply to you).     I think this powerful and highly persist belief comes from our soul, or if you prefer it comes from our subconscious mind.   This is something to take comfort in when other people seem to go out of their way to deny your truth.
To become as naturally female as my mother or my sister or effortlessly male as that man in the street.  You have to develop an unshakable belief in your gender and insist upon expressing it at all times.    Long-term exposure to hormones will undoubtedly help with this process.  Oestrogen and testosterone if taken long-term will slowly but surely 'rewire' the brain along female/male lines and you may well find that you are increasingly expressing yourself physically more and more often effortlessly and unconsciously as a man/woman.   Naturally produced body-language will go a long way to convince other people that you are your target gender even if there are some signs to the contrary.    If you are close to being passable in height and appearance then striking a series of carefully contrived, but artificial poses will ruin all your efforts with clothes, hairstyles, make-up etc.




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Colleen Ireland

Quote from: Stephanie on August 29, 2010, 05:53:59 PMYou have to develop an unshakable belief in your gender and insist upon expressing it at all times.

Unshakable belief - check.

The rest, I think, is courage.  And that, I'm afraid, is where many of us (I'm speaking of myself here) fall short (or have, in the past).  And I think it depends a lot on when you were born.  The younger you are, the easier it is.  Sorry, I don't see that as excuses, it just is.  The world was a very different place in the 60's and 70's.  You young ones are SO lucky.  Even at that, though, and even at 54, I'm still working on it.  Wanting it.  Putting myself out there, and GOING for it.  Okay, maybe I won't ever be someone who would draw wolf-whistles or automatic appreciation, but I will be the very best woman I can be.  Women come in all shapes and sizes, and they are ALL beautiful in their own way.

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Mara

Stephanie, thank you sooooo much!  I won't quote it because it's long, but that post about confidence in one's gender and letting things come naturally really helps.  I've been having some internal criticism and doubt in my ability to adapt lately, and that made me feel a lot better about myself.

It also helped me realize why I've been having voice troubles again.  I was doing great last week, but then someone said something on a trans forum that made me feel bad about myself and how early in transition I am, and I lost the confidence in my femaleness that I'd had.  Then I wasn't sure why my voice kept going deeper again, so it made me feel even worse.  Maybe I can break the cycle now that I understand the problem. :)
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Hannah

Well said Stephanie, a definite confidence booster.  :D
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RAY

Knowing you can think  more clearly being in female mode. 
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ggina

Agree with Ray on "knowing". These kind of things just project outward so much more than anything that can be learned.

But to say something more practical: when getting into their shoes, girls tend to finish the procedure by standing straight up and bending their knees behind their back so they can reach their ankle. It's not a stable position to be in but it's elegant. Guys just bend forward as usual. The same applies when you're walking and there's something to fix on your shoe (err, maybe you've stepped into something :) ), you just bend your knees back and look behind you to see what's there. Not easy to see the soles of your shoes, you have to bend your knee and ankle to the full. Guys just pull up their feet in front of them which is much easier but ugly :)

And if you're a girl, you should just loooooove solo piano music. In particular, if you can cry endlessly on Keith Jarrett's Koln Concert I think you're OK :) Of course this is stupid, you like what you like; but I just don't remember any girl who didn't like this kind of music. I cried listening to it even when I was a man... or was I? :)

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Edit: use a lot of smileys :) In real life, too.
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