Quote from: Devyn on September 19, 2010, 10:21:02 PM
I'll analyze everything from their throat to see if they have an adam's apple to the way they walk.

Weiiiirdd, I have an adam's apple (it's pretty damn prominent....a lesbian acquaintance flat out asked me about it in high school and now I might think she had suspicions that I'm trans?), but apparently I walk like a girl  . I'm confused about the adam's apple thing though. Do you take it as a pre-T trans marker or a male/post-T trans marker? Cuz I'm pre-T and I've had mine forever and it's HUGE  could this be a hormonal imbalance or possibility that I'm intersexed?

I have a subconscious habit of thinking of people as trans, mostly tomboyish girls. Then I think, "It's really not that common, there's no way that could be true." But then I still wonder about it. Then I'll spend an unhealthy amount of time observing their actions to prove to myself that they're not really trans. I even think one of my old friends might be trans, and I'm spending a lot of time wondering if I should ask.

I also try and figure out the gender of people if I can't tell right off the bat if they're male or female. Then I hit myself and ask "Why does it matter?"

I think I try to do it out of some need to meet other people with the same condition. It's so rare, I tend to clutch at tiny straws.

Quote from: Meepit on September 19, 2010, 10:27:31 PM
Weiiiirdd, I have an adam's apple (it's pretty damn prominent....a lesbian acquaintance flat out asked me about it in high school and now I might think she had suspicions that I'm trans?), but apparently I walk like a girl  . I'm confused about the adam's apple thing though. Do you take it as a pre-T trans marker or a male/post-T trans marker? Cuz I'm pre-T and I've had mine forever and it's HUGE  could this be a hormonal imbalance or possibility that I'm intersexed?

Pre-T. And that's really strange. Though I have to admit, I'm kind of jealous.

Quote from: Meepit on September 19, 2010, 10:27:31 PM
Weiiiirdd, I have an adam's apple (it's pretty damn prominent....a lesbian acquaintance flat out asked me about it in high school and now I might think she had suspicions that I'm trans?), but apparently I walk like a girl  . I'm confused about the adam's apple thing though. Do you take it as a pre-T trans marker or a male/post-T trans marker? Cuz I'm pre-T and I've had mine forever and it's HUGE  could this be a hormonal imbalance or possibility that I'm intersexed?

I heard that there is no correlation between voice and size of adam's apple, but just to ask... is your voice lower than most female's voices?

Quote from: Meepit on September 19, 2010, 10:27:31 PM
Weiiiirdd, I have an adam's apple (it's pretty damn prominent....a lesbian acquaintance flat out asked me about it in high school and now I might think she had suspicions that I'm trans?), but apparently I walk like a girl  . I'm confused about the adam's apple thing though. Do you take it as a pre-T trans marker or a male/post-T trans marker? Cuz I'm pre-T and I've had mine forever and it's HUGE  could this be a hormonal imbalance or possibility that I'm intersexed?

re: adam's apple http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/2487.html

Quote from: gilligan on September 20, 2010, 05:38:02 PM
I heard that there is no correlation between voice and size of adam's apple, but just to ask... is your voice lower than most female's voices?

Well I can speak from my throat/diaphragm (the apparently "male" way of projecting voice) without sounding like I'm trying to make my voice lower. Another weird occurrence (may be unrelated) was that in 8th grade my voice dropped dramatically for about a week or two. I was actually mistaken for another male classmate when I'd tap someone on the shoulder and ask them a question from behind (so they couldn't see who I was and just identified by voice). Though, I dunno, it could be just genetic? My mum and dad don't have prominent adam's apples, my maternal uncles do though  . I've always had one and it moves when I talk or swallow (really annoying when it gets pointed out actually) so I never really understood the male-only connection to it. I don't want it to get any bigger  (will it when I start T?). Also, my neck and shoulder area is quite thick as well, not wide but thick so perhaps that plays a part in how the adam's apple appears  I'll update you guys when I get my T-levels checked, cuz I'm just as confused  .

Quote from: insideontheoutside on September 20, 2010, 06:07:40 PM
re: adam's apple http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/2487.html

Thanks for the explanation  . But it just gave me different questions now LOL  . The link says that it could be due to hormones (doesn't specify which, likely T?) OR a "growth"  . So yeah maybe I ought to check this out with my doctor, but in all my years, nothing about odd T-levels has come from the doctor's office  so I'm hoping it's not a "growth" (I doubt it, but you never know  ).

I do this occasionally...wonder if someone is trans. It's only ever if I notice something that gives them away as bio-female but they seem to be presenting as male, however (haven't yet seen someone who seems to be a trans lady that I can recall). I'll admit sometimes I want to ask, but I never do for a number of reasons.

Otherwise I don't really wonder about people. Of course I recognize them as one gender or another, or at the least one sex or another, but it's never for any significant reason: if I can't "figure it out" it doesn't bother me and I just move on. Most I ever wonder is if someone is, in fact, trans, and whether they're out and living as the gender they really are -- part of that is that I have always worked in service industries (primarily retail) so I don't want to use a pronoun that may offend or ruin someone's day/mood (especially as I know what that's like), but I'm sure part of it also is the "are they like me?" sort of thoughts.

I don't think it's biased at all or anything. It's human nature, like others have said.

I do this too.  I guess I just keep grasping at straws to find someone "like me" nearby.  Plus, now that I'm aware of the existence of transsexual people I get paranoid and don't want to use the wrong pronouns and offend a cisgendered person or ruin a trans person's day.