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Answers needed ASAP - negative labels for transwomen

Started by Cowboi, September 23, 2010, 01:37:44 AM

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Cowboi

Bianca and I are working on a college paper for her that is due tomorrow, one section requires a few paragraphs regarding labels. We have been using her experience as a transsexual through out the paper (a lot of it was about minority/majority and interpersonal communications). Here is the directions that were given for the labels portion of the paper:

"What labels that you dislike have been applied to you or to groups to which you belong? Explain how the labels affect you and the groups to which you belong."

We are actually having trouble thinking of negative labels! I KNOW that sounds crazy, lol. She-male was the best we've come up with but I know there are a few others we could throw in there to elaborate the point. Anyone awake and willing to help out? :)
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tori319

->-bleeped-<-
He-She
Shim
->-bleeped-<-
Man/Woman
It
Thing


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Flan

http://andrejkoymasky.com/lou/dic/dic00.html
a bit much to wade through, but most slang is simple (->-bleeped-<-, ladyboy, ect) implying that trans women are really "men" in blinged out bodies.
Soft kitty, warm kitty, little ball of fur. Happy kitty, sleepy kitty, purr, purr, purr.
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Cowboi

Thanks :)

This professor is honestly crazy, her directions are insane... this has been the easiest part of the entire essay and here we are begging for help lol.
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pebbles

it
hermaprodite
he-she
pretty boy
girlyboy
->-bleeped-<-
thing
->-bleeped-<-
shim
trap
->-bleeped-<-got
queer
dick girl
pervert
Femme Men
he
sissy
drag queen
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Cowboi

Aw, the man response made me frown.

Well we think we have the whole paper completed now. College sucks, I'm not even in school and here I am writing papers for Bianca's classes lol. Maybe sometime in the next couple of days I'll have her post a copy of it in the just for us section under MTF, that way if her professor uses any weird tactics to see if students stole their work from anywhere it won't show up on an internet search.

Off to bed FINALLY. I was planning to go to bed hours ago... I can't decide if it was a mistake to ask her if she needed help with her paper or not. Had I not helped she would have failed this one (sad to say but honest and true) but she also would have at least done her own work lol.
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Cowboi

Also if a moderator feels this would be best to remove we are totally open to that. I understand why we don't really need a negative label thread, I just really hit a wall there. I don't think there are as many negative labels for FTMs we have it simple with comments like it, boy/girl, he/she... but I mean that's about it really in my own experience.
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tori319

Quote from: pebbles on September 23, 2010, 02:09:15 AM
it
hermaprodite
he-she
pretty boy
girlyboy
->-bleeped-<-
thing
->-bleeped-<-
shim
trap
->-bleeped-<-got
queer
dick girl
pervert
Femme Men
he
sissy
drag queen
How long did it take you to get your hair that long?
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Fencesitter

"man who wants to be a woman"
"man who believes he's a woman"
"man who wants to become a woman"
"man who believes he can become a woman"
"man who wants to mutilate himself"
"man who has the delusion he's a woman"
"crazy man"

and vice versa for FTMs
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Zoi

LIVE LOVE AND FORGIVE
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rejennyrated

Person with Gender Identity Disorder Grrrr! You speak for yourself thank you. I personally never felt that it was a disorder. Merely an unusual state of being, but maybe I am being perverse as usual  ::).
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Fencesitter

"Autogynephyliac"
"->-bleeped-<-"
"fetishist"
"cross-dresser"
"transsexual man"
"male transsexual"
"man who wants to invade women's spaces under disguise"
"man who wants to reinforce the sex binary"
"man who defies god's creation"
"man who wants to mimick women"
"man who wants to become a caricature of women"
"man who wants others make to believe he's a woman"
"fake"
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Fencesitter

Quote from: Valeriedances on September 23, 2010, 09:01:40 AM
One that I find most offensive and nullifying because it is so close to the correct word is gurl. I absolutely loathed this when I used to hear it or read it. It makes me very sad when I read some member here using it to describe themselves.

What does gurl mean? I only knew grrl before.

Got another nasty label:
"peon of patriarchy"
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glendagladwitch

#13
There are some guidelines put out by GLAAD and also the Associated Press Stylebook that are pertinent.  Also there is a group of LGBT journalists who have written additional guidelines that are proposed to be addded to the Associated Press Handbook.  One such guideline is that the word "transgender" is an adjective and not a noun.  So it is imporoper to call someone "a transgender," but proper to refer to somepne as "a transgender person."  It's the same as calling someone "a black person" instead of "a black," or "a gay person" instead of "a gay."  But we still hear people on the news say "gays and lesbians" all the time.  So I don't know if we will ever win this battle, but I am sensitive to hearing "a transgender."  It bothers me.

Here is a link to an article about the AP Stylebook entry.

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/09/08/how-the-ap-stylebook-fails-transgender-subjects/

Here is a link to an entry on the GLAAD Media REference Guide.

http://www.glaad.org/page.aspx?pid=376
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Fencesitter

Quote from: glendagladwitch on September 23, 2010, 09:03:28 AMIt's the same as calling someone "a black person" instead of "a black," or "a gay person" instead of "a gay."

Good to know that, thanks. As a non-native speaker, I've always used black, gay, lesbian etc. as nouns as the German equivalent of "black/gay/lesbian person" sounds silly.

Quote from: Valeriedances on September 23, 2010, 09:06:24 AMIt's the same word spelled slightly different, with the same intention. It's meant to differentiate between the correct, respectful word, girl. At least that what it says to me, in the context of a transgender/transsexual person.

Nasty, that is.

Oh, another one:
"non-womyn"
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pebbles

Quote from: tori319 on September 23, 2010, 04:18:21 AM
How long did it take you to get your hair that long?
haha complete non-sequitur To the topic. :P

I grew it long when I was 15 so it's difficult to say for sure but based on the rate at which mine grows I'd say just under 3 years. Although this is as long as it gets tho.
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iris1469

Oh and dont forget the famous:

Chude  :icon_userfriendly:    :icon_chainsaw:
tinkerbell
He
Him
His
Man
MAle
Gunslinger
pipe layer
:icon_blahblah:

->-bleeped-<-got  :(  >:(  :embarrassed:
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JennX

"If you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain."
-Dolly Parton
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TheAetherealMeadow

Just look at the comments from a FOX (or any other mainstream media for that matter) news article about a trans person, you'll find plenty!
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Nicky

The most hated label that I have been called:

"Nicholas" >:( :( :'(
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