Quote from: missyzanta on September 17, 2010, 08:45:39 AM
I have had sex numerous of times in the past 3 mths and I have been told by ALL of my friends that I am totally wet.  I climaxed 15 times during intercourse the other night and there was a HUGE wet spot under me afterwards.  I dont know what wet actually means but they have told me that DAYUM, your p   y is wet. even with them fondling me, they say that.  I have seen the whitish creamy substance oozing out when I masturbate.  I have no clue where it comes from but it is there EVERYTIME i climax.

I was also told that i probably wouldnt have that type of orgasm but i am sure they have to tell us that because of not getting our hopes up. Only 2 of the men knew me before and i asked them was I wet and they said hell yes and one of them told me that I was when it

15 times! Uh, wow! That leaves me speechless. Speechless and jealous.

Hmmmm.  I had my first orgasm almost 2 years after my surgery.  I was told that if a post op girl is to have an orgasm it usually happens a lot earlier than 2 years and that usually if you have not had one by about 2 1/2 years you probably won't ever have one.  I was also told that the reason I took so long to have one was due to the fact that I transisioned so early (puberty halted at Tanner stage 3 at 13 years old, HRT at 16 and GRS at 18) and had never had an orgasm.  Anyway, I do produce about a teaspoon or less of fluid when I orgasm, but not every time.  I am impressed at how many orgasms some post op girls on this thread claim to have had.  Lucky them.  the most I have had in one session is 3.  Most times it is only 1 or 2.

Fret not Tracy....

Much like the Cosmo letters pages.....(enuff said)....I'd take some thing with a wee pinch of salt.... sweet-pee, that you see typed here....lol

And I would imagine you're right re the puberty halt that would limit the T hormones (which have been trialled on GG women to increase libido)... with dubious affect... that could have had some impact on you.

However, women's sexuality is in fact far more complex than GG men's! Less physical and more mental for sure. The NMR based study work is very revealing. This is why the holy-grail of a female Viagra is still not on the market...(and yes the bio/tech/pharmas have been searching)....

I'm 52 and would honestly say I orgasm more through masturbation than I ever do through basic intercourse... and like you do not come on demand... or every time. But sometimes I can and even in unison, if my lover skilled and into me enuff 

(This makes me exactly the same as the vast majority of women out there)

Love making is not like you see on TV, in mags, in films and most importantly not like you see in Porn, at all... well maybe amateur stuff, but even then everyone's different....there is no generic we're all individuals what's good for some isn't for others.

And for me getting a fanny (vagina) was not because of the sex I was then going to have....not at all in fact. With me personally the sex thing's just been the bonus....not the main motivation at all....

So don't worry to much my dear about what you read here....you have a beautiful face and youth on your side, so revel in that for a few decades or two, and I would have been thrilled too to have my puberty stopped when you did.

(but sadly not)

Quote from: Cruelladeville on September 27, 2010, 06:22:30 PM
Fret not Tracy....

Love making is not like you see on TV, in mags, in films and most importantly not like you see in Porn, at all... well maybe amateur stuff, but even then everyone's different....there is no generic we're all individuals what's good for some isn't for others.

And for me getting a fanny (vagina) was not because of the sex I was then going to have....not at all in fact. With me personally the sex thing's just been the bonus....not the main motivation at all....

So don't worry to much my dear about what you read here....you have a beautiful face and youth on your side, so revel in that for a few decades or two, and I would have been thrilled too to have my puberty stopped when you did.

(but sadly not)

I couldn't agree more Cruelladeville,

I don't even expect to have a relationship at my age, (nearly 52) particularly with a man. So it wasn't about sex that I had to transition. So the only way is imagination and a few select toys. I had a orgasm at about two months post op through that and I was thrilled to be orgasmic via my clit. I would have been depressed if I was not orgasmic and I would have been totally upset if I had to wait 2+ years to find out. As you say though every bodies body is different. I have had several erotic dreams that made me orgasm, (woke up having the orgasm) since my SRS and I think that highlights the imagination part of things too.

Stardust

Thanks to both Cruelladeville and Stardust.  I agree, orgasms have been a bonus - they were not a requirement after GRS.  I endured a lot to get where I am now.  I am 4 1/2 years post op.  When I was a pre-teen and then a teen I asked God frequently why he had punished me by giving me a penis.  I almost lost religion over it.  The happiest day of my life was when I came out of surgery knowing that I no longer had a male part, even though I was enduring a lot of discomfort.  As for my first orgasm, I almost had it by mistake.  I was dilating and exploring my clitoral area when it happened.  It was a small one, so I wasn't really sure what had happened other than I know that it had felt good, kind of like a good sneeze.  Better ones came later but none of them were really vaginal, really 90 percent clitoral and 10 percent vaginal.

I have tried dildos as well, but they all feel about the same and produced the same results with regard to orgasms.  I had to try really hard and I didn't always have one and they varied in intensity.  I am now engaged and I have had sex with my fiancé.  It is a totally different thing and my orgasms feel more vaginal – his penis must be touching something that the dialator or dildo did not, although there is still clitoral stimulation.  At any rate, I do orgasm every time with him in fact usually I have a really big one and then a smaller one when he orgasms.  Sometime I have three.  However even if I didn't have any orgasms it would not matter as I am very happy as I am and wouldn't change anything.  The fact that my body matches my mind is, to me, the most important thing.

Tracy

Quote from: Valeriedances on September 28, 2010, 03:13:39 PM
This has not occurred for me yet. For a while there was numbness in the area and my clitoris is still waiting to make an appearance. I'm hopeful at some point it will happen. A big change since surgery is I dont seem to have a sex drive any longer, though I want sex for the affection and intimacy.

Nice to hear from you again Val!  I'm surprised to hear that your clitoris is still hiding.  I had a concern about that area myself today as the stiches around my inner labia are coming apart and I noticed a hard black scab like area underneath the hooding covering what appears to be my clitoris.  I was concerned with the color so I contacted Anne and sent her a photo.  Thankfully Brassard said all is ok and to keep the area clean.  I'm guessing all the numbness has gone away by the sounds of it.  Sex drive in my case has increased dramatically.  I wasn't very sexual in my former life.  How could I be?
I'm sure all will work out well for you in the end, Valerie! 

Quote from: Valeriedances on September 28, 2010, 04:11:48 PM
Hi Kristyn!

I had a scab also that seemed to last a very long time, about 6 weeks if I remember right. It covered the whole area there. When it was finally gone I couldnt see what should be the clitoris. I sent pics to Anne and she kept telling me not to worry ...wait a year, so we'll see. Sigh, a year with no orgasm. I'm beginning to resign myself to the idea.

Since you talked with Dr. B. in depth about yours, I'm sure yours will be more visible/prominent.

Currently the scab is only covering the clitoral area under the hood.  Below the stitches have begun to break and I am able to see the inner labia.  That scab over the clitoris scared me as I thought it had died or something.  Dr Brassard assured me all is ok and to keep the area clean.  Do you have sensation in that area?  I know I do. I can feel it underneath.  Funny thing, when I contract my pc muscle my entire vulva moves! 

I'm sure you will be alright.  Even without a visible clitoris you may still be able to orgasm as there are nerves underneath.  If you are feeling numbness you could try Vitamin B supplements--I'm doing 200mg a day.

Quote from: Kristyn on September 28, 2010, 04:38:45 PMFunny thing, when I contract my pc muscle my entire vulva moves! 

yeah mine too! Isn't that the most amazing thing? I like to just sit there and flex the muscles, its a very nice feeling lol

I've had one orgasm post-op and it wasn't clitoral at all but vaginal, or I suppose "g-spot", stimulated by dilating when I wasn't even having sexy thoughts. My clitoris is plenty sensitive, I just haven't used it yet lol. But the thing is it is also possible to orgasm from internal stimulation alone (of course a bit of pushing the little love button along with it helps too )

Quote from: FairyGirl on September 28, 2010, 05:22:05 PM
yeah mine too! Isn't that the most amazing thing? I like to just sit there and flex the muscles, its a very nice feeling lol

I've had one orgasm post-op and it wasn't clitoral at all but vaginal, or I suppose "g-spot", stimulated by dilating when I wasn't even having sexy thoughts. My clitoris is plenty sensitive, I just haven't used it yet lol. But the thing is it is also possible to orgasm from internal stimulation alone (of course a bit of pushing the little love button along with it helps too )

It is really cool, I just don't want to push it too much since I'm still healing.  I can also feel the cold lube deep inside me which is a strange feeling too.

Quote from: Valeriedances on September 28, 2010, 03:13:39 PM
This has not occurred for me yet. For a while there was numbness in the area and my clitoris is still waiting to make an appearance. I'm hopeful at some point it will happen. A big change since surgery is I don't seem to have a sex drive any longer, though I want sex for the affection and intimacy.

Hi Val, my clitoris is/seems to be almost invisible too, I had asked the surgeon for two things, that it looks aesthetically close to female as possible and sensate. I can't help looking at it, lol and it seems sensate.

I will not get to graphic but I didn't want to fiddle with it much to reach an orgasm so just tapped the hood area and hey presto. The orgasm seemed to last a while making the body convulse a lot of times, quit different from a male orgasm. My libido seems to be fairly good and I only just have to think about something sexy and I can feel my clitoral area make kind of movements.

I'm sure size has nothing to do with being sensate mine really is tiny, I emailed the hospital several times in the first six weeks because I was convinced my clit had died, they said not to panic yet. Even when I went back for my discharge assessment I had to ask the surgeon to take a look and also tell me where it was. He gave me a mirror and pointed it out, that's how small mine is, but hay, it works. I'm sure its just a matter of time Val.

Stardust

So, what causes the increased libido and clitoral sensation post-op? (I'm non op, BTW). Is it mostly mental, or does the clitoris  become more sensitive than the glans originally was?  I ask because I've been experiencing less and less libido and if I can orgasm, its very bla (when going solo - with a partner its pretty good).  Maybe its mental?.

Quote from: stardust on September 28, 2010, 06:44:56 PM
I'm sure size has nothing to do with being sensate mine really is tiny, I emailed the hospital several times in the first six weeks because I was convinced my clit had died, they said not to panic yet. Even when I went back for my discharge assessment I had to ask the surgeon to take a look and also tell me where it was. He gave me a mirror and pointed it out, that's how small mine is, but hay, it works. I'm sure its just a matter of time Val.

Stardust

I feel you may be right stardust as mine is quite small as well but has lots of sensation and I cannot complain at all about the performance it can put out when time requires.  They say good things come in small packages......

Quote from: Robertina on September 28, 2010, 08:21:18 PM
So, what causes the increased libido and clitoral sensation post-op? (I'm non op, BTW). Is it mostly mental, or does the clitoris  become more sensitive than the glans originally was?  I ask because I've been experiencing less and less libido and if I can orgasm, its very bla (when going solo - with a partner its pretty good).  Maybe its mental?.

I had virtually zero libido pre surgery which I feel was mental as I had no want to use my old part for sexual satisfaction or for that matter any other things except peeing.  Post surgery my libido now has come back with a vengenance, again I think this is more a mental issue and me now being very happy with my new parts.  The clitoral sensation I think is more to do with the surgery outcome than anything else.

Before my surgery I was aware of the fact that the clitoris is constructed from the top tip of the glans, with something called "dorsal nerve sparing". I wrongly assumed that my clitoris would feel the same afterwards as this small area did before. However, this has not been my experience at all. Basically all the nerves that produce erotic sensation are now combined into a much smaller area of an altogether different shape. Everything is swapped around. I have a lot more sensitivity in my clitoris, but it may be because all that sensation been been concentrated into one tiny button lol   The thing is, both the outside and the inside are in a completely different arrangement so it's difficult to compare except to say it feels better now.

Here is another excerpt from my surgeon's instructions concerning post-op orgasms in which she mentions both libido and the importance of the mental aspect:

Quote from: Dr. Christine McGinn16. Sensation. Erotic sensation of  the vaginal area is a complex subject and the more informed you are, the more you will be able to enjoy sexual pleasure following surgery. Hormone levels, emotional state, and partner acceptance play an important role in your ability to have an orgasm. Often it takes some experimentation and effort to learn how your new vagina works. I recommend the book "The Science of Orgasm" by Beverly Whipple to learn more about how this process works. I helped to edit the chapter on transsexual orgasm. It is important to note: if you were not able to orgasm prior to surgery, nothing we do in surgery increases your ability or likelihood of reaching orgasm after surgery.
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After your surgery you should be able to experience clitoral pleasure because the dorsal nerves of your penis have been preserved as a clitoris... Even if you experience some loss of clitoral bulk due to poor blood supply or scabbing, those nerve roots are still present. The area that corresponds to these roots is just below the mons pubis. By applying pressure to this area, you can stimulate the orgasm reflex that travels through your spinal chord to your brain. This may take several weeks to happen as the nerves heal and learn their new position. Vitamin B6 helps with this process. During the healing phase you will experience odd feelings that have been described as "shocks, zappers, tingles, or itching". These can take you by surprise and happen at inopportune times. This is normal nerve healing and should dissipate after several months.
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Before I finish with this topic, I will touch on the importance of two more issues: Hormones and Psyche. Hormones can greatly affect your libido and ability to experience sexual pleasure. They can also affect the amount of lubrication you produce. Genetic females do have some testosterone that comes from the breakdown of progesterone (this is why many females experience increased libido right before their period). After the testicles are removed MTF transsexuals have little to no testosterone and I recommend a small amount of testosterone or progesterone following surgery.

Your state of mind plays a large role in your sexual satisfaction. If you suffer from anxiety, low self esteem, fear of what your partner is thinking, or post operative depression then your sexual satisfaction may suffer. The excitement of surgery is quickly replaced by the reality of dilation and recovery, which can often cause depression as your body adapts  to the changing hormone levels, and use of pain medication. If you are finding that your sexual satisfaction has declined, do not hesitate to find a therapist that specializes in sex therapy. Sex therapists are specifically trained to deal with these types of issues. If you are having trouble finding a trans-experienced sex therapist, contact AASECT on the world wide web.

I have a comment regarding libido.  It really is a state of mind, of course influenced by hormones.  When I am dilating and decide to bring myself to orgasm, I really have to work at it, and it doesn't always happen.  However when I am with my boyfriend, I get excited really quickly and when we make love I always have an orgasm and most time two – a really big one followed by a smaller when usually when he has his orgasm.  So I think although hormones play a part it is your state of mind which is the main factor.

I ALWAYS have an orgasm when self inflicted.  I have to grab the whole vagina and squeeze.  My clitoris is sensitive but i am not sure i like the feeling i acutually get from it.  it is kind of annoying.  I have to get ready and accustomed to it.  When a man performs fellatio on me, they concentrate on the hood not the actually clit.  I thought they were supposed to concentrate on that but they dont.  I have had some who did from time to time but mostly the hoood.  Now when they do the hood there is total enjoyment for me.  My clit is highly sensative.  Now for the lady who hasnt still seen her clitoris, mine peeked through about week 4 and it was fully visible by week 6.  I had my first sexual encounter/penetration and week 6 and it was totally wonderful and scary.  It happened by accident.  I dilated before he came over so i was pretty open and his penis wasnt too large so he kinda slipped it in to me without my knowing and he had put a condom on also.  When I realized there was a different feeling I was feeling, i looked down and he had inserted his penis in me and OH MY GOD, sex has never been the same for me.  I am highly mucosal and I dont need lubrication once aroused. 

I hope your clits little head surfaces soon.  Dr. Bowers did my surgery and I havent had not ONE problem except my urine stream is horrible.   

Quote from: Melan on June 20, 2010, 09:20:12 PM
I haven't orgasm'ed yet, and I actually had concerns about the numbness that seemed to pervade the region.  That was until I saw an experienced doc last week, that she said I should keep stimulation to the area, that might help with nerve regrowth and getting feeling back.

I happened to be at a women's shop yesterday to pick up some tickets for an event.. and glanced over to the vibrator section.  I had thought about picking one up before, but never had.  So I purchased a 'starter' model.... OMG... there's definitely some nerves firing down there.  Not to get too personal.. but yes, there's life there, and I daresay the sensation is 10x better then any experienced pre-op, even without orgasm connecting in the brain.   I was so relieved.

I haven't orgasm'd, but I know that is going to take awhile for me.   I was never able to orgasm after anti-androgens took affect, a couple years ago, but I know that it will happen, and I patiently await, and have incorporated a 'vibration' routine into my daily dilations, *giggles*.

Yee haw.....
Melan

I'm going to have to try that.  I've had orgasms but it is really inconsistent.  Some times i get aroused easily, and other times it doesn't matter what I do.  Any suggestions?

Quote from: Jenna Renee on September 30, 2010, 05:32:20 PM
I'm going to have to try that.  I've had orgasms but it is really inconsistent.  Some times i get aroused easily, and other times it doesn't matter what I do.  Any suggestions?

A lot of orgasm is a state of mind, I know I can't if I'm not in the right mind set.  This may sound weird but trying reading a sexy novel, watch some porn, buy a sex toy or maybe fantasize.  Anything to get you aroused will help immensely.  I also find these days it takes time to get there, unlike the days of old which were wham bam all over, but then the end result these days is soooo much better.

Quote from: missyzanta on September 17, 2010, 08:45:39 AM
I have had sex numerous of times in the past 3 mths and I have been told by ALL of my friends that I am totally wet.  I climaxed 15 times during intercourse the other night and there was a HUGE wet spot under me afterwards.  I dont know what wet actually means but they have told me that DAYUM, your p   y is wet. even with them fondling me, they say that.  I have seen the whitish creamy substance oozing out when I masturbate.  I have no clue where it comes from but it is there EVERYTIME i climax.

I was also told that i probably wouldnt have that type of orgasm but i am sure they have to tell us that because of not getting our hopes up. Only 2 of the men knew me before and i asked them was I wet and they said hell yes and one of them told me that I was when it

15 Times?  Who was your surgeon, the Energizer Bunny?

UPDATE!!! I'M BACK HAHA Haters FALL BACK

so i have HUGE NEWS i'm VERY ORGASMIC. i've had a TON OF ORGASMS. whats weird about mines is i can have multiple ones with my clothes on and NOT touch my clit or my vagina. my stimulation comes directly from my nipples, in fact i get zero stimulation from my clit. when i do have an O I Squirt out cum and my pussy gets very WET. i don't know yet if i can have one in front of a guy yet but by myself i can get myself off.

Tink, that is pretty amazing! Wow you must be thrilled. Are you on progesterone?  My libido is gone down in my pre op days.  I hear other post op gals some of them say they have your experience.  I can't imagine it! But I have heard it so many times now, I have to believe it is possible! I think I would want to know the secrets to this success...that is for sure.  I know it is half in the mind too. But you have to be "interested " and feel sexy to have it. I think! Anyway, thanks for sharing. I am fasinated!
Amelia