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Started by Bird, October 10, 2010, 10:12:10 PM

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Bird

Honestly...

I am clueless about how to begin learning make up. I just know I have to. Absolutely anything any of you is able of telling me will be appreciated.
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long.897

Subtlety in makeup is a virtue.  Greens/purples/blues etc make you look like either a.) a prostitute, or b.) a 13 year old girl. 

Foundation isn't one size fits all.  Find the right shade for your face, it may take some practice.
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Janet_Girl

There are several good videos on youtube.
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Christy Edwards

Yes it takes lots of practice. But it will happen.Online videos will help alot..For me i like clinique foundation. Its good for beard covering. I just did my 4th laser visit yesterday, so hopefully soon it will not matter as much...
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Bird

I haven't went to youtube to check videos yet because I am looking at voice videos atm.

But anyway

Is there a way to find the color of your foundation without just trying them? I am thinking I should just ask the sales person about it.
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Janet_Girl

The two best place to find your match is the web between the thumb and fore finger, and the area just under the collarbone.  That is where I found mine.  Also once you find a color that matches or comes close, purchase some inexpensive foundation and experiment.  Once you have an understanding of your color you can upgrade to a more expensive foundation.

The more expensive the foundation, for the most part, contains more pigments in them and covers better.
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spacial

I didn't have any guidance so I just used a good foundation.

But as Janet says, there are some great videos on Youtube.

These are a few channels that could give some inspiration:

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=bubzbeauty

http://www.youtube.com/user/michellephan?blend=1&ob=4

http://www.youtube.com/user/panacea81

The first is more about creating attitude. Some of her stuff can seem more like lectures, but her attitude is really quite remarkable and interesting.

The second makes me think of those kids on the likes of 90210. This girl isn't short of cash. But her ideas and values are worth listening to.

The third is a very down to earth, working class sort of girl who likes to create very striking, (sometimes startling), looks. She demonstrates that you can create almost any look you want. And still look yourself.

If you look at these and others, you can get a good idea of what to do.

But your face is your own. I always think the worst thing to do is assume that it's a paint by numbers exercise.
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pheonix

2 words:

MAC counter.


Very pro-trans; knowledgeable sales staff.   I learned more about makeup in a 45 minute appoinment there than I did in 5 + years of books/ friends/ elsewhere.  The downside -- if you buy their stuff you'll drop 300 easily.  Pick one or two items -- (I suggest foundation) and get color matches to the rest elsewhere.

I'd also recommend this book:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/1933405309/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&qid=1286830594&sr=1-2&condition=used

really useful for learning the basics.
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pheonix

Quote from: long.897 on October 10, 2010, 10:36:50 PM
Subtlety in makeup is a virtue.  Greens/purples/blues etc make you look like either a.) a prostitute, or b.) a 13 year old girl. 

Actually handled well, they are effective.  but they need to be well applied and in moderation/
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Jillieann Rose

Here is somethings I picked up a while back hope it helps.

A common mistake is to forget to apply foundation to your neck area. When applying makeup you should always consider your neck a part of your face. Also cover exposed areas such as your shoulders and chest so that your complexion will have an overall even tone, Makeup will stain clothing, so be careful to avoid areas where clothing will rub against makeup. Seeing makeup stains on clothing ruins the illusion of a natural look.
Concealer/Corrector

Dark - accents, contours and recedes
Light - highlighting and bringing areas forward.
Orange - counters beard and blue tones.
Yellow - counters dark areas, blemishes, under eye circles and discoloration.
Mint- neutralize red tones and broken capillaries
Lavender - counters yellow and sallow areas
 
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Begin by applying the stage makeup in your shade all over the face and throat with a sponge, adding extra coverage where needed by patting extra foundation over those areas. Next, add depth and contouring to the face by applying the next darkest shade of stage makeup to the left and right sides of the forehead, under the cheekbone, to the sides of the nose, and along the jaw line(be sure to blend the contoured areas, so they don't look like stripes!). Finally, to prepare the face for color, set the entire application with loose powder using a powder puff or powder brush.

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Its now time to add a little color to the face and brighten up those cheeks! To do this, you must first find the perfect shade of blush to compliment your skin. To brighten myself up, I take the blush brush, load it with Mild Pink Blush, and sweep the color over the top of my cheekbones (not under), and work the color back to the hairline. The blush should be brightest on the "apple" of the cheek (the part of the cheek that sticks out when you pucker your lips), and should fade as it heads toward the side of the cheek bone.

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Now onto eyes! Start by applying a brightening shade all over the eye lid (from lashes to brow) with a wide shadow brush. I recommend using the shade "Oyster" to give the optimal brightening and a little shimmer as well to reflect light and open the eye.

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Now we're going to give the eye a little depth and mystery! In this photo, I have taken the "Sangria" shadow and applied that shade on my lid and crease using an angled shadow brush.    

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It's now time to give the eye a little more intensity. I have applied "Mauve" shadow just on the lid (the little area below the crease), sweeping it across my eye all the way down to the lash line.    

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No eye is complete without liner and mascara. For the perfectly defined eye, apply the "Jet" eyeliner to the top of the eye, by sweeping it in short strokes across the lash line area, making sure that the liner touches the base of the lash line. For a "lifted" look, I always make my liner thinner towards the nose, and thicker as it goes outward. Dot the liner on the bottom of the lash line, and smudge it with a liner brush. Finish the eye by applying two generous coats of "black" mascara all over the lashes (I must tell you, I have tried many mascaras, but this one is the BEST!!!!

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Lips can make or break a look. Often times, the lip liner is either forgotten, or not used to its full potential. To make my lips look fuller, I start by drawing a "V" in the center of my top lip, using the "Plum Brown" liner. I then start at each corner and work my way up to the "V", lining just above my lip line. Finally, I trace the liner across my bottom lip, again, just outside my lip line.

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I find that when I fill in my lips with liner, my lipstick stays on longer, and my lipstick looks more "3-dimensional." To do this I pick a lighter lipliner to fill in with. A shade such as "Pink Glaze" does the job perfectly!   

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A beautiful and flattering lip shade can brighten the face, and soften the features like nothing else. I love to finish my lip by applying "Prom Pink" lipstick to the entire lip area with a lip brush, sweeping the color within the lip. A lip brush is essential for the initial application, as it truly does give a more professional, polished look.   

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As you can see, a little subtlety all over really creates a flawless face. Minor details, such as the ones I have listed above, can really create the look you are seeking. With TG Cosmetics, you can truly become the woman you have always wanted to be!   

Locating critical brow boundaries: Place a pencil at the outer edge of the nose. Keep the base of the pencil fixed at the nose and rotate it to find key brow dimension points. Vertically it aligns where the brow should generally start. Allow the inner part of the brow to begin a little bit inward beyond the vertical line. Aligning with the center of the pupil of the eye, it locates the high point of the arch.
aligned with the outer lower edge of the eye, it locates the point where the brow should end. The beginning and end of brow should be at the same height. Tweeze from below the brow, not above.
Shaping and tweezing brows
Brows that are well shaped can make the most dramatic impact of any facial feature to create a beautiful look.
Relax and take it slow. Pay the most attention to the shape of the arch and inner corner of the brow. Go slow and re-check your progress often. A mistake can take 3-6 months to grow back. You don't have to do it all in one day. Stop if you feel unsure.
General tips:
• Never try to change the shape of your natural brow arch with tweezing, it simply ruins the shape of the brow. You should rather enhance your natural arch when tweezing hairs.
• Tweeze brows after a shower or bath when skin is softer and pores are more open or place a warm wash cloth over your brows for five to ten minutes before tweezing.
• A topical anesthetic is good if you have a low threshold for skin sensitivity.
• Tweezing hairs does not make them grow back thicker, repeated plucking of the same hair may cause hair to stop growing over time.
• Expect total re-growth to take as long as 3-6 months.
• Always use natural light.
• To preview how you want brows to look place a light concealer on brows with a small tipped brush to "white out" hairs you plan to tweeze.
• As brows hairs grow keep brows brushed into place with brow fix, brow gel or hairspray.
Tweezing:
• Pull skin taut and remove hairs one by one by pulling them in the direction of the hair growth.
• When tweezing grab hair close to the root and then pull gently.
Shaping:
• Get rid of obvious renegade hairs like those near the eyelid, between eyes or past the outer end of the brow.
• Define the inner corners, pluck hair by hair until the brow's inner edge is generally in line with the eyes inner corner. Don't over do it, leave some hairs just beyond the inner eye corner area to avoid the inner part of the brow from looking too defined or exact.
• No two eyebrows are alike, go for balance rather than perfection. Stick with the natural line, don't pluck on top, it will distort the shape
• Work from the inner corner to the outer corner on the underside of the brow, thin out over thick area by removing one hair at a time until all hairs in that row are gone.
• Don't over pluck hairs. Leave hairs that fall slightly above that row to get a softer effect and avoid leaving gaps. Brush brows back into place, in the direction the hair grows, often as you tweeze.
• If you are unsure about removing a certain hair, leave it alone. Leaving is always better than plucking it. You can always decide to pluck it later.
Styling:
Use an eyebrow pencil that is close to the color of your natural brows with a non-greasy, fine point to fill in brows with fine hair-like strokes to the shape you want them to be.
Eyebrow pencils: Generally Taupe colored pencils work for blonde, strawberry blonde, auburn, and red hair. Cocoa works for brown hair and white hair. Black or Silverstone works for black hair. Silverstone works for gray hair.
Applying Mascara
   
1. Using black mascara, coat lashes from very base to lash tips with full strokes.
2. You can also apply mascara by sweeping from top side down as well as coating under the lashes. Close eye, apply from roots to tips.
3. Using comb side of eyebrow brush, comb through lashes to separate. It is easier to separate lashes before they have dried. Repeat after each application of mascara.
4. Hold brush parallel to nose, coat bottom lashes with tip of mascara brush.

Comb through bottom lashes with eyebrow comb/brush.

To lengthen top lashes further, after lashes have dried, coat lash tips two or three times with black mascara (drying and separating between applications).

For ultra long full lashes, coat lashes from top side or concentrate on coating lash base and avoid very tips of lashes.

It is very important that the lash base be coated as close to the flesh as possible. This defines the eye shape and keeps application looking natural.

For a no makeup look, coat under and lower lashes with clear mascara only, remember to comb lashes with eyebrow brush/comb after application.

For ultimately the thickest lashes: coat upper and lower lashes with clear mascara; comb thru, then coat upper and lower lashes as described above with black mascara.
Generally mascara is applied in two coats. To apply mascara, place your finger about mid-lid or on your eyebrow and pull up in order to hold your lid taut.
Holding the wand horizontally, sweep on mascara from roots to ends. Apply only to lash tips at first. Roll the wand slightly as you move, wiggle the wand slightly from side to side, along the lashes to distribute mascara evenly.
Allowing lashes to dry between coats thickens the lash while avoiding clumps. Let the mascara dry for 4-5 minutes. Don't hurry, relax and wait. This point is where the wet mascara can smudge easily and leave messy marks where you don't want them. Check your work before you begin the second coat, blinking can cause the wet lash ends to leave tiny mascara marks on your lids. Clean with a Q-tip or cosmetics disposable applicator as you go, as needed.
Once the first application has dried, apply a second. For thicker lashes, carefully apply mascara to the upper side of the lashes as well. Wait and let it dry before you continue.
Use your cosmetics mascara applicator spiral brush or lash comb to give lashes a final brush-through after they've dried to remove any clumps and give lashes a more natural look.
If you apply mascara to lower lashes go light. Apply by brushing the lashes with the wand in a vertical position to sweep across lashes or apply gently lash by lash. Adding too much mascara on the lower lashes can be aging to more mature eyes.   

Six steps for easy eyeliner application

How do you apply eyeliner? I always get a crooked line that ends up sitting too high. How do the professionals get it right on the line of the eye? I would like to apply it to my upper lids but don't know how.
lifeguard20
1. For lining the top lid, use your non-dominant hand to pull the skin on the top of your eye taut, and then apply your eyeliner with your dominant hand. It may help to rest your dominant hand against your face as you apply it to help with control and support. It may take you a few attempts to get it right, but practice makes perfect!

For the bottom of you eye, again rest your dominant hand against your face to line, and use your the other hand to help keep the lower lid taut.

2. I use an eyeliner that has a mechanical, twist-up-pencil type tip. I find that these are the easiest to apply!

3. Use short feathery strokes instead of trying to draw one solid line.

4. Keep your eye slightly open. I tilt my head back and look at the mirror with both eyes open. That allows you to get very close to your eyelash line.

5. If you use a pencil or crayon type liner, instead of a liquid one, put the line on and use a cotton bud tip to smooth out the line. This makes it a lot easier and quicker, and you don't have to worry about getting it right first time, it also makes the line subtler.

6. Applying eyeliner half way along the bottom lash line makes your eyes look rounder and more defined. Don't worry too much about a straight neat line; simply smudge the line with a cotton bud or your finger so it's soft and natural looking. Use Kohl pencils for the inner rims.



It is not as hard as it sounds. But does take practice.
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Jillieann
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Zoi

Watch a lot of make up videos and u gotta try the foundation before buying at least on ur hand  i prefer a little spot on the neck to see if the color undertone matches my skin ..

U can start with something cheap to practice on  such as E.L.F products its around 1-5 $  so its cheap and good for the price..


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K8

Quote from: pheonix on October 11, 2010, 03:57:36 PM
2 words:

MAC counter.

That's where I got started.  It was a wonderful experience.

Also:
Don't put stuff on too heavily. 
Be sure to blend the edges of your foundation.  (A good foundation will match your skin color, so you shouldn't need to cover all exposed skin unless you want to.)
Practice, practice, practice.

- Kate
Life is a pilgrimage.
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Vanessa_yhvh

I'm in the "MAC counter" + YouTube tutorials camp, as well.

MAC foundation, Revlon Voluminous mascara, eye shadow & blush from coastalscents.com, and I think my eyelash curler is from Revlon, as well. OH, and brushes from Sigma!

And if they don't beat me to it, almost every day I ask the women I know at work how I look. I generally try their suggestions the following day or so (assuming it's something I feel comfortable with).

In this manner, I've gone from "no makeup ever before in my life" to a fair level of competency in under 3 months.
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Bird

wow so much info

thank's a lot!
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