Not sure where to put this!! Sorry if it should be moved to like the movie sections or something.

Well most of you know about the show Glee (if not you're one of few haha it's huge at least in america)

Well anyways Glee is doing a Rocky Horror Picture Show episode and a character sings the song Sweet ->-bleeped-<-. The line "I'm just a sweet ->-bleeped-<- from transsexual Transylvania" was changed to "I'm just a sweet ->-bleeped-<- from sensational Transylvania"

I was wondering why they changed it. They do take out swear words in the songs they cover, since it's high school students, but transsexual isn't a swear word. I'm confused why they took it out. Is one of my favorite shows transphobic etc?

I don't want to cause any drama for Glee and I'm not looking for attention tho, just simply curious

Maybe the censors didn't like the "sexual" part?  Can't see any other reason...

Well I don't see that being the reason, the show somewhat covers sexual themes at times, they've showed two girls making out, they've talked about sex and stuff.

I think it could be one of two reasons, first as Colleen has mentioned about 'sexual' being removed or secondly, because someone did not like the inference that transsexual and ->-bleeped-<- are one and the same.

Not being in the US, never heard of the program, but at a guess, I would think it may be to say something ironic about Transylvania.

I hear it's quite pretty really, but its reputation, for many is a Boris Karlof movie.

The Rocky Horror Picture Show - Frank N Furter - Sweet ->-bleeped-<-

Hmm. Idk it really bugs me. It looks like they don't want the show dealing with trans-sexuality which is really sad to me Especially since they aren't dealing with it as much as singing a line in a silly song.

Quote from: spacial on October 15, 2010, 05:01:37 PM
Not being in the US, never heard of the program, but at a guess, I would think it may be to say something ironic about Transylvania.

I hear it's quite pretty really, but its reputation, for many is a Boris Karlof movie.

The Rocky Horror Picture Show - Frank N Furter - Sweet ->-bleeped-<-

They are covering that song

yeah what Hermione01 said, the two words mean something completely different and the song lyrics suggest that they mean the same. If they kept it the original way then more people would kick up a fuss about terminology than anything else.
If anything the show has done a good thing by doing this.
I dislike both that tv show and the movie but now I have less disinterest in that show from this.   

If they knew the context I don't think they would change the word to "sensational".  RHPS is a weird weird movie.  I saw it the first time a few weeks ago and admittedly don't like that song, but he's actually singing about being a ->-bleeped-<- from the planet Transsexual in the galaxy Transylvania   Which you find out later in the movie.

Maybe they just don't want to offend trans or non-trans people who don't know the movie, I really don't know.

Quote from: Britney♥Bieber on October 15, 2010, 05:02:32 PM

They are covering that song

I know. 

I was looking for an old horror movie clip with Transilvania but came across that one.

I just really like the song. Sorry, bit of self indungence there. 

Idk guys these are great reasons but idk I can't see any of them being true. :S

Not answering your question but may be of some interest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Horror_Glee_Show

The change seems logical to me.  A ->-bleeped-<- is usually not a transsexual.  The TV character (I forget his name) is a ->-bleeped-<- - a man who dresses in women's clothes.  Part of his kitsch is that he's a man in outlandish women's clothing.  He's a gender-bender, playing with your expectations.  I would think that he would object to being identified as a transsexual - an ordinary woman with a male body.

- Kate

They probably realized that it could offend people for a number of different reasons and just didn't want to go there.  Social conservatives would be offended by hearing young people use the word "transexual".  Some trans people would be offended by the context the word is used in (confusing transexual with ->-bleeped-<-, or just making light of transexualism).  People from Transylvania might be offended by hearing it described as transexual.  I think that's a long enough list to make a producer decide to change a word and avoid the issue altogether.

Quote from: Alexmakenoise on October 16, 2010, 03:11:10 PM
They probably realized that it could offend people for a number of different reasons and just didn't want to go there.  Social conservatives would be offended by hearing young people use the word "transexual".  Some trans people would be offended by the context the word is used in (confusing transexual with ->-bleeped-<-, or just making light of transexualism).  People from Transylvania might be offended by hearing it described as transexual.  I think that's a long enough list to make a producer decide to change a word and avoid the issue altogether.

That's one of the few situations that could ever come up where conservatives, transsexuals and Romanians share a common goal - and nobody else. 

Quote from: Alexmakenoise on October 16, 2010, 03:11:10 PM
They probably realized that it could offend people for a number of different reasons and just didn't want to go there.  Social conservatives would be offended by hearing young people use the word "transexual".  Some trans people would be offended by the context the word is used in (confusing transexual with ->-bleeped-<-, or just making light of transexualism).  People from Transylvania might be offended by hearing it described as transexual.  I think that's a long enough list to make a producer decide to change a word and avoid the issue altogether.

I think you might have something there. 

Quote from: Fencesitter on October 16, 2010, 06:15:15 PM
That's one of the few situations that could ever come up where conservatives, transsexuals and Romanians share a common goal - and nobody else. 

So true. 

In the 70's, the words Transsexual and ->-bleeped-<- were interchangeable and neither of them were accepted as a norm.   The movie gained its poor reputation in the 70's because the character was so against the social norm, that people rebelled against it. 

I think they are trying to be sensitive to the fact that "Transsexuals" (which, BTW, I dislike that term in general) tend to get borderline violent when they are called ->-bleeped-<-s.

Unfortunately, you can't change/remove ->-bleeped-<- in the song or it would simply not make sense.  And, well, it wouldn't be Rocky Horror Picture Show.

The show has an openly gay character and they tend to be very sensitive to the GLBT world on the show, I doubt they changed it to degrade us.   I wouldn't read too much into it.

Echoing on from Epigania, the theme of Rocky Horror Show is ->-bleeped-<- with a large dose of S&M.

Think of Cindy, Janet, K8 or Susan. (Others as well, apoligies for not incuding). The term S&M doesn't immediatly spring to mind.

Quote from: spacial on October 17, 2010, 04:40:33 AM
Echoing on from Epigania, the theme of Rocky Horror Show is ->-bleeped-<- with a large dose of S&M.

Think of Cindy, Janet, K8 or Susan. (Others as well, apoligies for not incuding). The term S&M doesn't immediatly spring to mind.

Well if it's inappropriate, they shouldn't do it at all. Last week they had two girls  kissing and talking about scissoring!

Quote from: Britney♥Bieber on October 17, 2010, 07:01:48 AM
Well if it's inappropriate, they shouldn't do it at all. Last week they had two girls  kissing and talking about scissoring!

I can agree with this point.  I'm not sure Rocky Horror Picture Show will translate well into a TV Mash up, but I'd have to see the context of how they are presenting the songs.    They've surprised me before by putting in songs that I would never have thought I'd here on a TV Show that worked surprisingly well.  But RHPS is a fairly "out there" movie in terms of plot.  How they'll fit a ->-bleeped-<- into the show is beyond me.

But, I suppose considering the popularity of Glee, this might bring the show back into the mainstream.   We'll have to see.   

Quote from: Epigania on October 17, 2010, 10:37:06 AM
I can agree with this point.  I'm not sure Rocky Horror Picture Show will translate well into a TV Mash up, but I'd have to see the context of how they are presenting the songs.    They've surprised me before by putting in songs that I would never have thought I'd here on a TV Show that worked surprisingly well.  But RHPS is a fairly "out there" movie in terms of plot.  How they'll fit a ->-bleeped-<- into the show is beyond me.

But, I suppose considering the popularity of Glee, this might bring the show back into the mainstream.   We'll have to see.

Based on pics from the set that have been released, it looks like they are performing some songs onstage.