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Started by tammy70, October 16, 2010, 10:11:28 AM

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tammy70

hello everyone, hope i'm putting this in the right spot. my question is how do you explain your transition to young children that are 6 and 7?
i tried a search online but couln't find very much on the subject, so if there is anyone out there that has gone through this it would be much
appreciated for any help.
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Melody Maia

Haven't done it yet, but I will soon to my 8 year old son. My therapist recommended that we don't do it someplace different, like a therapist office, because difference means shame and we want to avoid that lesson. Also, children usually fear that is was their fault and that it might happen to them. You need to relieve them of those fears up front. Besides that, I imagine it will have to be in simplified terms, like daddy needs to be a girl and explain in terms they can understand that it was something you were born with. I plan to tell my son that I will always be his daddy even if I look different and even if he decides to call me mommy, mommydaddy, maddy or whatever we decide on as a family.

I know that isn't much, but I hope it serves as a starting point.
and i know that i'm never alone
and i know that my heart is my home
Every missing piece of me
I can find in a melody



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tammy70

other problem is they like to talk no matter what you tell them, they already said things to people about things i haven't done in months and their mother is afraid that they will say something to the wrong person some day when its not appropriate
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Melody Maia

Quote from: tammy70 on October 16, 2010, 02:32:08 PM
other problem is they like to talk no matter what you tell them, they already said things to people about things i haven't done in months and their mother is afraid that they will say something to the wrong person some day when its not appropriate

Yes, my wife and I are already resigned to the fact that once we tell our son, most likely everyone will know. You can't really ask a young child to keep a secret like that an expect it to be effective. I have just about literally told everyone I know and my son will probably be the last person we tell. We also have had a talk with his school counselor so that she know what is going on and can keep an eye out for things like bullying or a change in school performance on his part.
and i know that i'm never alone
and i know that my heart is my home
Every missing piece of me
I can find in a melody



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tammy70

thanks for the tips melody, i appreciate it, i just recently started coming out. i just found out a week ago that a friend of mine found out just after my wife and i seperated a few years ago from people saying things before asking me about it
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Melody Maia

Quote from: tammy70 on October 17, 2010, 08:02:35 AM
thanks for the tips melody, i appreciate it, i just recently started coming out. i just found out a week ago that a friend of mine found out just after my wife and i seperated a few years ago from people saying things before asking me about it

Yes, this sort of thing takes on a life of its own sometimes.
and i know that i'm never alone
and i know that my heart is my home
Every missing piece of me
I can find in a melody



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spacial

It occurs that, if it is some big secret then that will put a dark hue onto the whole matter.

But Melody's suggestions do seem pretty good.

I know laineyjain faced this as well.  They are certainly pretty cool. Perhaps he could say what he did.
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marleen

Hello Tammy,

First a quick background: I outed to my wife in August 2009, and started outing to family and friends early this year. We both had a talk to a child psychologist, to talk about how and when to tell our sons of 4 and 6 (now nearly 5 and 7).
She told us to do it together, as it is important (if you're still together with your partner) that you bring this news together. We decided to tell them the first day after school ended in June this year, because we would be moving to the UK in the summer, and it was not very important to also tell the school where they went up until then.
On that morning we sat on the couch and called them, saying please come, we have something important to say, and then I told them about not being happy as a boy, and preferring to do girl-things, and wearing girl-clothes and in fact that I would much rather be a girl, because being a boy made me very unhappy and sad, and that I would be much more happy as a girl (the child psy told us to use easy words, so the children would understand, child speak actually). Don't make it abstract, and when a child asks a question which seems to have a very broad answer, try to find out first what it is they mean exactly, and then answer only that specific question. Broad answers tend to cause more confusion.
They should also be allowed to be sad or angry, and know that it is ok to have these feelings. It is very important to help them express their feelings, so they can talk about it. I notice this is especially difficult for our youngest one.
You may sit together and choose a new name for you. Based on a tip from our child psy, we looked up a list of words meaning 'dad' in different languages, and picked 'aita'. Now they almost exclusively use this name for me, and by doing so still call me dad (which I will always be anyway), but for other people, it sounds more like a feminine name (you may have to pick a name in a language that is very uncommon where you live).

We were also told not to confront the children with your changing body, eg in the bathroom.
What is also important is that the school knows about it, especially the children's teachers, and that the children know it's ok to talk about it there, so they don't feel it's a secret. Melody already said to expect your children to tell others, and I agree, so it may be best to inform other people who are in contact with your children. The school is also very important to stop any teasing or bullying that may take place because they have a parent that is 'different'. We haven't had any negative experience here - luckily.
Very important is also to assure your children you will not leave them, that you will continue to love them, even though you will be going through changes.
And keep talking about it every once in a while. Ask them how they feel about it, ...
They will see you're much happier, they will feel they are still loved, and since they're still young, I guess they will be fine.

Our boys are doing just great. The first little talk lasted just a few minutes (with me still in man-modus). The oldest was surprised at first, expressed that he found it strange that I wanted to be a girl, but now he's fine, because he says that he sees I'm happy. The youngest had more problems with it, in the sense that he said for a long time that he did not like me changing, but when I ask him now, he says it's ok. One of the only questions they asked was whether I was going to have a new name, and I told them 'Marleen'. I still remember the youngest getting on my lap just after we told them, saying 'hello Marleen' with such a big innocent smile only children can give you ;-)
Changes were introduced in the course of the first month, after which I went to the child psy with them, which was actually the first time they really saw me completely as Marleen (with the youngest only calling his big brother, pointing at me and giggling 'look, daddy's got a handbag'...). They are so used to it now, I never get a comment, except recently the oldest started pointing out that I still look very much like a boy...a child's honesty is not always nice to hear ;-)
Expect to be embarassed from time to time, like having them call you daddy in a supermarket, or asking if you still have your ... in a train full of people. (the last actually happened to me, and I was very glad the question was in dutch, while we are living in the UK, and people probably did not understand it...)

I hope you find some useful information in this rather chaotic posting, and wish you good luck!
Marleen


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Melody Maia

Marleen,
The idea of calling me Daddy in a language other than English is brilliant!
and i know that i'm never alone
and i know that my heart is my home
Every missing piece of me
I can find in a melody



O
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tammy70

marleen, thanks for the info, i think that is the most info i've seen online about the subject.

spacial, not that it is or was a big secret, its just that i wasn't ready to come out at the time. i do understand that some people
brought up the subject because they didn't know who to talk to.

this freind that found out from other people, we've been friends for 20 years, which i've been trying to figure out how to tell him
without thowing him into shock or disbelief and someone thinks it might be easier to tell him since he already somewhat knows

i know i don't post much i'm more of a reader than posting and i appreciate the info, so thanks.
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jacob.ayden.averi

I babysit a child named Nathan who's nine years old, I know that's not as young as what you're asking about, but it's been my only recent experience since I've been out for four years. Basically, everybody calls me Jake and they try to use male pronouns at his house but of course they screw up a lot, being brand new to it and all. So when the unavoidable question came, I just told him that I'm a boy but I haven't gone through puberty yet. Now before you freak out for me lying...I don't consider it to be lying. Yes, I've gone through...erm, puberty. >.< Physically. But until this puberty involves testosterone, to me it's just a weird thing that happened. Like I don't know. Being born with extra toes or something. When Nathan is old enough to understand, then sure I'll explain it to him, but for now, I believe that this is the best option. Obviously, this won't work in every situation or for everyone. But it's a simple, temporary fix, in my opinion.

spacial

jacob

I think what you did was fine.

It's one thing to explain to others, even children, but we have to feel comfortable with it. How you dealt with it, made the point, and was confortable for you.
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Moku

I was fortunate enuf to have a conversation with my 5 year old brother about my roommate.
It went something like this.

"I thought he was a girl, isn't that silly?"
"How did you know she wasn't a girl?"
"Well he didn't ware lipstick."
"I ware lipstick."
"Yah but he didn't ware any dresses."
"I ware dresses"
"Yah but..."

At this point he got really confused and then decided to show me a dvd player he got for his birthday.
:P

Maby leavening him confused was not the best idea, but trying to explain to him something I my self barley understand mite end poorly /shrugs
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