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A question for the guys who are into guys.

Started by Jamie-o, March 27, 2008, 04:57:38 PM

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sneakersjay

Quote from: Teknoir on October 30, 2010, 10:35:36 PM
DEATH BY SNOO-SNOO! :laugh:

Would be nice to know where one could find of these gay guys that would accept FTMs. I haven't had much luck finding gay guys, let alone accepting ones.

I'm currently in this boat, getting along fabulously with a guy.  I have yet to disclose.  So far he has said that size does NOT matter in the least to him, so that's a start in the right direction.  I hate having to skirt issues, though.  But I'm not disclosing unless he's getting into my pants.  We'll see.

Jay


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Alessandro

Quote from: kyril on October 31, 2010, 01:07:00 AM
It's weird, I could never tolerate the concept of Internet dating/hookups as a "straight woman." Just the way straight guys behave online is...creepy. Gay guys, though, are totally cool, very direct and straightforward and upfront. And there's no risk with early disclosure as long as your profile doesn't reveal your identity (low risk if you use face pics...I use face pics because I can't think of any way to produce appealing body shots, but you might be able to)

I found that!  When I tried to use those sites as a straight woman, everything that was said just seemed gross.  There seemed to be a massive obsession with this 'divide' between the genders.  Whereas in a gay context I am cool with it and like to be up front about being trans. 
"You can't look where you're going if you don't know where you're going"
-Labyrinth
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MaxAloysius

Well, I don't know if anyone is interested in this still, but I figured I'd post my experiences anyway, on the offchance that it helps someone :D (Also, first ever post guys! I'm nervous! :P)

Well, I've only been out for about a year, but I live in Australia (everyone is so accepting here! Yay!) and I had the straight forward approach to telling people/coming out. I wasn't really very tactful, pretty much using the 'I'm a dude, if you don't like it, GTFO!' approach. A lot of my friends told me that just proved what I was explaining though :P But regardless, I'm out now, and just finishing up with college. EVERYONE at my school knows pretty much, and the ones who don't and give funny faces at the mixup of pronouns used around me just get laughed at good naturedly.

I've always been heavy on the guys, like, FLAMIN! But I'm also the top personality, and (like to think) I'm quite manly, so my poor friends are always very confused, but seem to handle it okay with a little light explaination :P But most important was this SUPER sexy male friend of mine (who I'd been crushing on for forever :P) and he was so great. He had admitted a few times when I was female to finding me attractive. He was one of the first people I told, and surprisingly was totally cool with it! He said he was straight, but I knew otherwise, and with a lot of gentle conversation and prodding he finally admitted he might be a 'little' attracted to guys, which he said wasn't being helped by my involvment in the matter. I would laugh and tell him I totally didn't count, at which point he would argue and say that I did.

I didn't understand that statement at first, but he took to me being a guy almost as well as I did! I think it just made sense in his brain and clicked, because he instantly started calling me by my new legally changed name, and even started to use male pronouns to describe me, regardless of company. If he was around friend when talking about me, and they got confused, he even went so far as to calmy explain my situation to them :P

After a few months of this, and more gentle prodding on his sexuality, it because apparent that he's MUCH more into guys than he would readily admit to at first (most especially to himself!) and that he was still struggling with the fact that he found me attractive, but now as a guy. Eventually we came to the conclusion that he was bisexual, but with a bias for men, meaning he's not at all interested in a relationship with women, just attracted to them sexually.

Finally, after a long time of beating around the bush and lots of flirting, we ended up in an informal relationship (meaning we were everything but were sketchy saying 'couple') in which he completely saw me as a guy. Not only that, but I'm the top in our relationship! Obviously there are some guys in this thread who are happy with sexual intercourse or touching or whatever, but I personally can't stand the idea of him seeing me downstairs, or even touching my chest, but what was more surprising was the fact that he was of the same opinion :P He says seeing my female parts would just screw with his head because it's so deeply ingrained on him that I'm a guy, which mostly just means lots of solo sexing for him (lucky boy! :P).

After a few months of that relationship, I got impatient and jealous (wanted him mine damnit!) and asked him out formaly. And the adorable boy! Omgosh, he was so happy he cried! He said that he takes me for who I am, and wouldn't have me any other way, and also that he's never felt so happy in any other relationship in his life, than he has with screwed up old me :P So here I am now, not on T or anything, but wearing a binder, presenting as male and openly out, with a boyfriend who will readily admit to his friends that I'm a guy (and just how much he likes having my fingers inside him! O.O He really needs to keep some things to himself!) and who's only issue with it is that he keeps slipping up to his parents and calling me he! He's preparing to come out to them soon with the mindset of 'You like my boyfriend the way he is or GTFO!' (we seem to have that approach in common :P) and say's he plans to live out his life with me.

So it can and does happen :) Also, as another note, I socialise a lot with gay people, and they've never seemed to have an issue with me. My best friend is gay, and was the first person I told, and the only thing he had to say on it was 'Well that explains a lot!' which was quickly followed by 'If you ever get surgery, we should totally be f*** buddies.' I can say he's the most polite person I know, be he's a fantastic example of someone who's so gay they sparkle, and he (and all of his millions of past and present boyfriends) has never had a problem with me.

Ahhhhh, I had no idea how long this post went on for! I'm so sorry!!! Got carried away talking about my amazing bf, I'll stop now :P

Hope I helped some!
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Tom

Reading this entire thread...I feel SO MUCH better about myself. Just like a lot of you and/or us, I feel the same way. I consider myself more pansexual where gender to me doesn't matter but I do admit, I find men more attractive to me currently. That probably has something to do with most of my relationships (all except for one) were with women and they didn't ever really get anywhere. For me, it's I currently desire a man. But with my open-minded view point, if I fall in love with say another FTM or and MTF, then that's who I love.

But yes, I have been worried about going to a gay bar or something and someone not being okay with me. XP If that makes any sense. Because I'm not on T yet. But I do dress like a guy and do all that jazz full time and have been and since I can get my ID changed now, I have a lot more confidence in the world. Like for me it's "well I know I'm a guy and if they think I'm not well whatever" sort of thing. But I do lack the confidence to go to a gay bar yet.

Reading all these lovely stories and advice and such, I feel much better and even gave me a boost in my confidence so that I could go with some friends or something some time soon even. ^^

So I guess, since I've rambled away, what I am trying to say is thanks! ^^
なんくるないさ。
Live through today for the sake of tomorrow.
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jamherst

I'm also glad this thread is here...

I always thought I was strange growing up as a girl and being in a very trusting relationship during highschool. But it wasn't right. My ex treated me wonderfully but I could not stand the thought of being with him as a girl, therefore I could not see any future with him.

I kept discomfort in for a long time into my 20s when I started to lightly date around, looking for straight guys who turned me off horribly. The whole, 'but you are a girl...you're a beautiful girl,' made me dash to the other side of the country (and canada's a big country). So...that didn't work out too well and I finally came to accept after been given a lot of gay porn by my ex as a present (ironic haha), that there was definitely something wrong and if I don't fix it, I won't ever be happy.

Knowing now how ->-bleeped-<- goes, I actually don't have a lot of good sources to meet men who are thinking with the brain in their head not the one in their penis. Most of them have expressed that they wanted a 'real man' which made me a little dypshoric. Some of them said that they can only be friends with ftms. Some of them would lie for the sex (mostly straight men who suddenly turn gay).

I'm probably not looking in the right places but I realize that it's not just trans people who have trouble finding the right person...we're all like that ^^;.
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