WATCH: Bigots lash out at Mayor Annise Parker over appointment of Texas' 1st transgender judge

Posted on 18 Nov 2010 at 12:45pm

http://www.dallasvoice.com/watch-bigots-lash-mayor-annise-parker-appointment-texas-1st-transgender-judge-1052882.html

On Thursday we reported that longtime activist Phyllis Randolph Frye had become the first transgender judge in Texas, after being appointed by Mayor Annise Parker. Well, just leave it to the Houston Area Pastors Council and the Fox affiliate to make an issue out of it:

The Houston Area Pastoral Council, which represents about 300 churches, has a big problem with the appointment. Executive Director Dave Welch says for years Frye has been undermining Texas marriage laws. He says the appointment confirms Mayor Parker, who is openly gay, is making her lifestyle a central part of her policy agenda.

Since this lady was appointed unanomously, by the city council, we can assume they are confident their electorate will approve.

Therefore we should welcome the rection of this  Houston Area Pastors Council since it will demonstrate to them that they don't speak for the majority at all.

we can assume they are confident their electorate will approve.


I'd assume nothing of the sort.  All those judges in Iowa who approved gay marriage a few years ago all lost in the last election.

I love it when they say "A Radical Agenda".  They are the same ones who want racial profiling, denial of rights to people who are not white, Anglo-Saxon Protestant Straight people.

Gee Equal Rights is soooooooo radical.

I'm sorry, but what the **** is wrong with these people? Where in the New Testament does Jesus preach that we should love our neighbours ... except for the ones who happen to be different from 'normal' people? Where does he side with the establishment and the privileged against the excluded and dispossessed? In any congregation of healthy, caring Christians that I have known, people are welcomed regardless of their race, gender or sexual proclivity and the atmosphere is one of kindness, love and support. The sick s*** that goes on in parts of the US in the name of Christianity is a disgrace to a great country which exists as a free nation because a group of people got together and drafted a declaration of independence that states: 'We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.' That's ALL men, and women, and anyone in-between, in transition or still to make up their mind.

But hell, what do I know? I came from the country that America fought to be free from ... and goodness knows the church here has its faults, but it sure as hell wouldn't set out to demonize a transsexual judge or a gay mayor.

OK .. vent over ... sorry about that!

Quote from: tekla on November 19, 2010, 10:16:39 AM
we can assume they are confident their electorate will approve.


I'd assume nothing of the sort.  All those judges in Iowa who approved gay marriage a few years ago all lost in the last election.

Not an expert on American politics, law or elections but I think you're talking about different things.

The Judges in Iowa were, I believe, directly elected. They were answerable to their electorate.

This woman has been appointed by a city council. She is answerable to them. The city council, unlike judges, is made up of politicians backed by their various parties. They have a vested interest in how the electorate thinks, unlike directly elected judges who, presumably are primarily dealing in law.

Quote from: Carlita on November 19, 2010, 01:05:06 PM
. . . country which exists as a free nation because a group of people got together and drafted a declaration of independence that states: 'We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.' That's ALL men, and women, and anyone in-between, in transition or still to make up their mind.
. . .

Very, very well said.   

Have a great day

We generally elect our judges  in Texas.

I was under the impression we even elected the traffic-ticket judges, but I guess in the city, they just appoint them.
I'm living back out in the county now, and I have, in fact, voted for the guy who will see my case if I get busted speeding by the sheriff's department.  I kid you not.

If Phyllis wants to move beyond the municipal system, she's going to have to be an elected judge.
Phyllis is, indeed, though, an activist for trans rights, and well-known.  (Annise is, other than being lesbian, about the most sane, boring person you can imagine, and I'm sure she'll make a good mayor.  I think it's great she's making the metro bus board members be required to ride their own godsawful bus system or step down )

Hmm...since I revealed in what general area I live...I guess I can tell you anonymously,a rather big worry I have...If Nikki Araguz wins, though I want her to win... it's going to put my marriage license into even more of a legal limbo than it already was.

I've mentioned my wife's a trans woman-legally able to amend her birth cert, thank goodness,  her birth state allows it...and I'm I'd ing as androgyne these days, but legally female, and likely stuck with that...the thing is, the state of Texas says that my wife was born male and can only legally marry a woman...

And, um, yeah, after they pased a constitutional amendment barring same-sex marriage the wife and I were really furiously angry, so we were all like "We'll show them!"

So we, uh, went to San Antonio and got a marriage license, got a friend who can marry to sign it and fax it...we are legally sorta same-sex married. In Texas.

Quote from: rite_of_inversion on November 19, 2010, 11:35:17 PM
I've mentioned my wife's a trans woman-legally able to amend her birth cert, thank goodness,  her birth state allows it...and I'm I'd ing as androgyne these days, but legally female, and likely stuck with that...the thing is, the state of Texas says that my wife was born male and can only legally marry a woman...

And, um, yeah, after they pased a constitutional amendment barring same-sex marriage the wife and I were really furiously angry, so we were all like "We'll show them!"

So we, uh, went to San Antonio and got a marriage license, got a friend who can marry to sign it and fax it...we are legally sorta same-sex married. In Texas.

Well, guess what.  The Texas Legislature voted unanimously last year to amend the family code to allow a court ordered gender change to establish the identity for the purpose of marriage.  Does that solve your worries?

QuoteSec. 2.005.  PROOF OF IDENTITY AND AGE.  (a)  The county clerk shall require proof of the identity and age of each applicant.

(b)  The proof must be established by:

(1)  a driver's license or identification card issued by this state, another state, or a Canadian province that is current or has expired not more than two years preceding the date the identification is submitted to the county clerk in connection with an application for a license;

(2)  a United States passport;

(3)  a current passport issued by a foreign country or a consular document issued by a state or national government;

(4)  an unexpired Certificate of United States Citizenship, Certificate of Naturalization, United States Citizen Identification Card, Permanent Resident Card, Temporary Resident Card, Employment Authorization Card, or other document issued by the federal Department of Homeland Security or the United States Department of State including an identification photograph;

(5)  an unexpired military identification card for active duty, reserve, or retired personnel with an identification photograph;

(6)  an original or certified copy of a birth certificate issued by a bureau of vital statistics for a state or a foreign government;

(7)  an original or certified copy of a Consular Report of Birth Abroad or Certificate of Birth Abroad issued by the United States Department of State;

(  an original or certified copy of a court order relating to the applicant's name change or sex change;

(9)  school records from a secondary school or institution of higher education;

(10)  an insurance policy continuously valid for the two years preceding the date of the application for a license;

(11)  a motor vehicle certificate of title;

(12)  military records, including documentation of release or discharge from active duty or a draft record;

(13)  an unexpired military dependent identification card;

(14)  an original or certified copy of the applicant's marriage license or divorce decree;

(15)  a voter registration certificate;

(16)  a pilot's license issued by the Federal Aviation Administration or another authorized agency of the United States;

(17)  a license to carry a concealed handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code;

(18)  a temporary driving permit or a temporary identification card issued by the Department of Public Safety; or

(19)  an offender identification card issued by the Texas Department of Criminal Justice.

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/FA/htm/FA.2.htm

So the state agreed our marriage is LEGAL?!?!?!
REALLY???


WOOT!!!!
Now if I can just get insurance through her job...bwahahah!

re #8

Which kinda makes the action against Nikki Araguz blaitent bullying by the courts is opposition to the law.

The courts are acting outside the law.

Astonishing.

'We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.'-
Except that it didn't cover people who happened to be considered property (slave) or people who happened to be in residence at the time the signer's ancestors dispossessed them.   

Society changes, and eventually change will happen in this area too, it just looks like it will take a while, and be haphazard in the US.

Quote from: spacial on November 20, 2010, 05:44:53 AM
re #8

Which kinda makes the action against Nikki Araguz blaitent bullying by the courts is opposition to the law.

The courts are acting outside the law.

Astonishing.

The marriage occurred before the law changed.  Ms. Frye is arguing that even if the marriage was not legal when entered, they became married under common law after the statute was changed, becasue they lived together and held themselves out as husband and wife for the required period of time after the law was changed.  Some information we don't seem to have though, is whether Ms. Araguz got a court ordered gender chage before that time, or closer to the time her husband died.  Some people have been speculating that she did not have her birth certifiacte changed yet.