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Started by spacial, December 02, 2010, 01:40:59 PM

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spacial

Jeatyn is a long standing member of Susans'. He is an FtM who has made many positive and valued contributions here.

He hold higher academic qualifications and his posts demonstrate that he is intelligent.

Earlier this year, Jeatyn became pregnant.

Around the 30th week of the pregnancy, Jeatyn began to be hassled by the welfare authorities and was eventually told that they questioned a transgender person's ability to be a good parent and not to cause actual harm to a baby.

They are threatening to take the baby away as soon as it is born.

Jeatyn needs your help.

Any transgender parents, Their spouses/partners, relatives, any other relationships, can you please write testimonials describing how you deal with being transgender and a parent.

For these to be valid they will need some reference to you. That means identifying yourself. I am positive that Jeatyn will treat all testimonials in complete confidence.

This is really an important request.

The details of the situation can be found here. https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,85903.0.html
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cynthialee

You might get better results posting this in the public forums.
Would it be ok to forward this information to other places?
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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spacial

I see no reason why not. But at the moment, Jeatyn isn't here. That's why I put it in Just for Us.

I have a feeling that she is looking for any help she can get right now. From anynoe.

But please remember, any testimonials will need to have contact details.

They will be submitted to a Social Work panel. They are incredably secretive, so there is little or no chance at all of any information getting into the public domain.
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Jeatyn

Thanks Spacial, a new thread was a good idea, so more people see it.

Testimonials will need some sort of contact info yeah, I forgot to mention that.
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cynthialee

Quote from: Jeatyn on December 02, 2010, 02:09:24 PM
Thanks Spacial, a new thread was a good idea, so more people see it.

Testimonials will need some sort of contact info yeah, I forgot to mention that.
Do you have an email addy you want them sent too?
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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Robert Scott

I have found this website

http://www.pfc.org.uk/node/1013
Maybe it can give you some information - this is UK based & it has legal links & such

also here in the USA we have
colage.org
It's a national group for kids with LBGT parents ... they have research and if you sent them an email they might be able to direct you to such research -- we love the group and it has helped our kids alot
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Osiris

Perhaps it'd be best if people donating their testimonials PM you Jeatyn to get your email and send that information to you privately so that their personal info such as name and contact info won't need to be posted.

You may want to also look into public records for any information on transgender parents that have gone through other court systems and did well, that might help in your situation.

I'm hoping for the best for you and your child.
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Jeatyn

I have so many links and websites I've found while researching they are coming out my earholes but I haven't seen that PFC one yet, thank you ;D

I have no idea how to do the public records thing...what is that exactly?

Either PMing me or emailing me (addy in profile) would be grand, I wouldn't expect anyone to post personal stuff on the forums.

Cynthia has given me the idea of writing up what's happened in a blogger account so I can spread it around more....I'm gonna work on that at some point.

I feel as if my replies are coming out blunt and sporadic recently, sorry, stressed and tired as you can imagine  :P
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xAndrewx

I understand the stress man hopefully a situation can be worked out. I don't know any transgender parents or I would help :(

cynthialee

I would imagine that testimonials from the children of transsexuals would hold some weight also.
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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Cindy

Dear Jeatyn,

Sorry I cannot be of more help than to wish you and the babe all the best.  I find it bizarre that many men bring up their children after Mum has died etc. Gay males bring up adopted children; so why cannot you as a guy with (sorry if this offends not meant to) physical advantages to rear a baby is being prevented from doing so. It just sounds as if you have run into the bigot end of a bunch of zealots.

Sorry and My Love and best wishes to you both.

Cindy

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spacial

To reinforce Jeatyn's request, it is really important that you properly identify yourselves on any testimonials. Without proper reference, any statements and testimonials will have little value to the authorities.

Jeatyn will not misuse the information in any way. It is unlikely you will be contacted. But reference is ncessary

The UK Social Work authorities are notoriously secretive and certainly won't publish any details you may submit.

I do hope all those who are able, will assist Jeatyn with this. It will be appreciated by all.
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Lacey Lynne

Moral support is all I can offer here.  Wish I could do more, but I'm out of my league on this one.  Thanks to all of you on here who are taking up this cause, a very GOOD cause.  You are to be commended.  You're all awesome.   
Believe.  Persist.  Arrive.    :D



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Lisa

Dont know if it is any help, but this trans couple who got a baby was on the telly a few months ago.
http://sixtyminutes.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=7926533
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spacial

#14
Lacey,

That is all I can offer at the moment. I'm pretty sure that jeatyn appreciates it as much as anything else. He must be feeling so terribly alone and helpless at this time.

Lisa. Great. Anything that adds to the positive case.
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cynthialee

Spacial! Stop ussing female pronouns when refering to a man. I know he is preggers and that is making your brain screwy but you keep doing it.
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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spacial

Quote from: cynthialee on December 04, 2010, 07:39:01 AM
Spacial! Stop ussing female pronouns when refering to a man. I know he is preggers and that is making your brain screwy but you keep doing it.

I am so sorry to all concerned.

The only defence I can offer is it is never meant with any negative or malicious purpose.

I will try harder. I promise.

(now corrected)
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Niki

How can such    injustice happen? What kind of harm do they think you could do to your daughter? Not let her express herself in feminine way? No one would know better than transgendered folks how important is to let your children to be who they want to be, without forcing anything upon them. It is similar how society don't like idea about gay and lesbian couples who have children. They think that children will grow up and become homosexual too. It doesn't take transgendered parents to rise transgendered child?

This social work system fails so much. They are never around families, where they are really needed, where children are actually abused. When a child runs away from home, he gets sent back, because social workers just assume that kid is lying,  because his parents seem so normal.
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