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Started by rite_of_inversion, October 16, 2010, 02:25:28 AM

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rite_of_inversion

What was the process of coming out to your family like?
What is it like living as openly androgyne?
What are the negative consequences of being neither/both?
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Kinkly

I started wearing unisex female tops very early on in public and came out to my parrents as androgyne & as both Male & Female after a while my presentation became clearly queer and I decided to come out to my Sister as I'm living very close to her she said she already knew from my appearance.  according to her what I like to wear now is too much for her kids (3 & 4 yo) something about it being developmentally inappropriate I haven't "come out" to my brother yet but he often says things that make it clear that he doesn't approve of me being me it took Mum and Dad a while to accept me for who I am.  I'm a lot happier being true to who I am. living outside of "Normal" means I get a lot of strange comments and it can be hard to tell if they were meant to be hurtfull or not I've learnt to laugh them off and sometimes thing do hurt
I don't want to be a man there from Mars
I'd Like to be a woman Venus looks beautiful
I'm enjoying living on Pluto, but it is a bit lonely
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rite_of_inversion

Quote from: Kinkly on October 22, 2010, 10:57:40 PM
according to her what I like to wear now is too much for her kids (3 & 4 yo) something about it being developmentally inappropriate

Ouch.  Sorry.  And I think she's quite wrong.
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Kinkly

Quote from: rite_of_inversion on October 22, 2010, 11:57:42 PM
Ouch.  Sorry.  And I think she's quite wrong.
I agree she made a few nasty remarks and "Not in frount of MY kids comments for a while but she has stopped that now.
I am now pretty much living full time as me now.
Dad doesn't accept and harsh comments are not uncommon. Mum tries to be suportive but it is a bit hard because Dad is so harsh sometimes ( they are still together)
I don't want to be a man there from Mars
I'd Like to be a woman Venus looks beautiful
I'm enjoying living on Pluto, but it is a bit lonely
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Pica Pica

I've always gone with the tactic of letting people tell me I was an androgyne.
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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ilanthefirst

I came out to my mom the way Pica Pica suggested; I waited for her to have the "I've observed that you're not a girl" conversation with me.  (You can read about how that went here: http://ilanthefirst.livejournal.com/6861.html.)  I'm only out to people with whom the topic has come up naturally.

rite_of_inversion, what do you want to get out of coming out?  Some things that would really mandate something official would be if you want to be called by a new name or if you want people to use a different set of pronouns for you.  But most everything else is more of a general awareness thing, right?
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Virginia

Coming out to my wife and son was the hardest thing I have ever done. I present as a girl and a guy. My presentation is extremely compartmentalized with absolutely no mixed gender cues. Besides my wife, son and the medical professionals who treat me, I am not out to anyone else. It takes a little juggling but people only know me as one gender or the other. I just don't see any need to rock the boat.
~VA (pronounced Vee- Aye, the abbreviation for the State of Virginia where I live)
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Sevan

I came out to my parents after I started T and my voice had CLEARLY dropped and shifted. I'd also chosen a new name and want(ed) people to use that name. It hasn't gone well....persay...but it hasn't gone badly.

People aren't aware of gender diversity for thse most part. So not only are you telling people that your something/someone other than who they thought....your also introducing them to gender diversity. NOT easy. :(

My mom had refused to use my new name. Outright refused. She's on my facebook, where she sees my new name all the time...and she seems to be coming around. My dad called me "red" (for my dyed red hair...it was the first time he saw me since I dyed it) instead of my birth name...so they're coming around I think.
I'm also the spouse to the fabulous Mrs. Cynthialee.


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shelly

Quote from: Kinkly on October 22, 2010, 10:57:40 PM
  according to her what I like to wear now is too much for her kids (3 & 4 yo) something about it being developmentally inappropriate

Was wearing skirts and dresses in front of my eldest child until he started school and will do the same in front of my daughter, still wear tights and leggins in front of them and they dont blink an eye lid, wife has tried to explain to my eldest who is now 8 that daddy is half male and half female and he seems to be able to accept this, dont know if what i am doing is right or wrong only time will tell i guess,  just hope that how i have approached this give my kids a better understanding of people like me
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Mrs Erocse

Erocse is MTF. Before coming out she dressed androgynously. People were confused how to think of her. They would address her as Mam then correct themselves and say sir. They would look a long time trying to figure us out. Most concluded she was a she. We seemed to get much more attention then, than now. She goes out fully female all of the time and everyone has been courteous and have no trouble addressing her correctly; unlike before when she was in the middle.

It seems in the middle sends mixed signals and people find themselves confused. Rudeness perhaps may be irritation at not knowing how  to correctly respond and feeling ignorant.

Children are resiliant. Tell them the truth and they will accept. Muddle the truth with confusing and inappropriate judgements and they will be confused. Clear and strong love is always a good example for all children.

Quote from: phx_rising on December 06, 2010, 11:38:24 PM

People aren't aware of gender diversity for thse most part. So not only are you telling people that your something/someone other than who they thought....your also introducing them to gender diversity. NOT easy. :(

Ignorance and Infamiliarity are key. Standing up and informing others, showing that you are good, considerate, people is important to the whole world. Everyone deserves education.  They may not always want it, but ignorance is not to be cherished. I wish for everyone's sake there was a way to speed up the process.  :)
~Hugs~
Patty
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