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Transphobia in the LGB Community- WTF?

Started by juliekins, December 10, 2010, 05:26:55 PM

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juliekins

I came across this video on a friend's Facebook, check it out:
"I don't need your acceptance, just your love"
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cynthialee

So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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Lee

"Homosexual fail" made me laugh. Maybe I'm glad that most of my friends are straight now.
Oh I'm a lucky man to count on both hands the ones I love

A blah blog
http://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/board,365.0.html
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xAndrewx

I really wish he wasn't right but he is. I've often thought that maybe the gay people fear that straight people will one day force them to transition. Even if that is the case, I agree with him "seriously?"

Thanks for posting the vid :)

Radar

"Yep, I'm injecting myself with man juice just to piss you off." :D
"In this one of many possible worlds, all for the best, or some bizarre test?
It is what it is—and whatever.
Time is still the infinite jest."
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cynthialee

Quote from: Radar on December 10, 2010, 06:44:31 PM
"Yep, I'm injecting myself with man juice just to piss you off." :D
That made me laugh enough to almost pee myself.
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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Cameron James

Our oppressors teach us so well.

Love the video - it definitely makes a great point. Though, I will say that it goes two ways. I've witnessed a great deal of homophobia in the Trans community, especially with the use of anti-gay slurs. And I've seen the same trans people who use anti-gay slurs get offended by anti-trans slurs.

It's a shame that a handful of disagreeable people can tarnish the reputation of a whole community. :/


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Vince1995

Well that's kinda not cool gays, and I look up to you guys. :(

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Tad

yep.. transphobia! Some countries in the middle east will actually fund SRS for gay people.. because being trans is better then gay apparently
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Lee

Quote from: Tad on December 10, 2010, 10:53:55 PM
yep.. transphobia! Some countries in the middle east will actually fund SRS for gay people.. because being trans is better then gay apparently

Almost makes me tempted to move to those countries.  :P
Oh I'm a lucky man to count on both hands the ones I love

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http://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/board,365.0.html
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Tad

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Vanessa_yhvh

adding this guy to my little pantheon of YouTube heroes  :laugh:
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tekla

Almost makes me tempted to move to those countries

Those would be the same countries that execute people for homosexuality.  The reason the fund SRS is that they think its better than being gay.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Muddy

Not necessarily.
Cuba is both very pro-gay and pro-trans.  In fact, Cuba is one of only two countries [the other being France] that does not list transsexuality as a form of mental illness.
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tekla

Cuba is hardly the middle east unless you couldn't afford the map of the entire planet.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Dora

Best trans YouTube video I've seen in a long time.  Nicely done, and oh so relevant. 
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Muddy

Quote from: tekla on December 11, 2010, 12:55:33 AM
Cuba is hardly the middle east unless you couldn't afford the map of the entire planet.

I probably should have made more clear that I was referring to non-first world nations in general, and not specifically the Middle East.
The only Cubans I saw in Kuwait/Iraq were Cuban-Americans.
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tekla

In the old-school breakdown Cuba was a Second World Nation

First World = American Axis (Europe, Japan, ANZA)
Second World = Godless Commie Scum
Third Word = Everyone else, also called in the parlance of the time "nonaligned nations"
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Muddy

Non-First World ~ Second and Third World

My sole point being that not all Second/Third World countries whose governments directly fund SRS do so for homophobic reasons.  Cuba's Universal Healthcare pays for SRS, and can hardly be considered homophobic, as sodomy and homosexuality have been legal in Cuba since the late 70s, whereas it was not legal in the US until 2003 [interestingly, the same EXACT year homosexuality was legalized in Iraq].

Iran and Pakistan are pretty much the only Middle Eastern countries that permit sex changes, yet outlaw homosexuality.
I think its misleading, historically, to say that the reasoning has to do with homophobia, and transsexuality being preferable to being gay.

Hijira have a long history within Persian culture, and it is that history [with heavy Mughal Empire influence] that creates the bizarre imbalance between transgender acceptance and homophobia in Persian nations.  Culture, not any notion that it is better to have a sex change than be gay. 
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