Quote from: tekla on December 21, 2010, 08:22:30 PM
I like how there is no difference between a medical doctor and some person making minimal wage with a GED...

Yeah, I also like how there is no difference between a medical doctor, who has spent a vast amount of his own time and resources to achieve his occupation, versus some TSA agent working for eight dollars an hour who has a mininum amount of instruction (oh wait, I mean "training") to perform their job.

I really have the voice of the "Comic Book Guy" from the Simpsons saying "Worst comparison ever" stuck in my head.

Quote from: tekla on December 21, 2010, 08:22:30 PM
I like how there is no difference between a medical doctor and some person making minimal wage with a GED...

You're forgetting the rest of the medical professionals who have anywhere from 6 weeks to four years or more of training before they're unleased on you and your children.

Quote from: VeryGnawty on December 21, 2010, 08:25:45 PM
Yeah, I also like how there is no difference between a medical doctor, who has spent a vast amount of his own time and resources to achieve his occupation, versus some TSA agent working for eight dollars an hour who has a mininum amount of instruction (oh wait, I mean "training") to perform their job.

http://www.tsa.gov/join/careers/pay_scales.shtm

Band A is between 8 and 10 an hour, basically minimum wage.

$8.89 bucks an hour is NOT EVEN minimum wage in SF.  You have to love it when other people make the point for you.

How does the 'TSA pat down' compare to the SOP for getting a flight into Israel? I don't know it is a question.

How effective are these procedures and what science, both real and social are behind them. I have a friend, a fully qualified medic who was born in Palestinian. As he willing says he looks the Hollywood version of an Arab terrorist. Sallow skin colour, short cropped black hair, would need to shave every two hours not to have stubble. Is on an Australian passport. Banned from entering Singapore,  where he had to stay in the departure lounge for 24 hrs for his connection flight. Body and baggage search at every European airport he has been to. Wouldn't bother going to the USA. And why?

Because he looks like a baddy in a Bruce Willis movie. For Goddess sake. If this is the responsible attitude for terrorist protection it is totally, completely and utterly flawed

I'm one of those who would like to see the facts and not the fantasy in both what is behind the TSA and the problems it has. I have no problems in complying with safety and security features but they have to be based in fact.

JMO
Cindy

Quote from: tekla on December 22, 2010, 01:20:16 AM
$8.89 bucks an hour is NOT EVEN minimum wage in SF.  You have to love it when other people make the point for you.

Yeah.  Regan saved me a lot of time by posting those statistics for me.

Quote from: tekla on December 22, 2010, 01:20:16 AM
$8.89 bucks an hour is NOT EVEN minimum wage in SF.  You have to love it when other people make the point for you.

That's the base salary.  Every federal employee gets an "locality adjustment"  For SF its 35.15%.  Your 8.89 is now $12.01/hr and Band A likely is a "training wage".  So the person you see in the airport is probably making more then that - not so minimum wage anymore ($9.92/hr in SF for those that are wondering).

I once applied for a job at an airport and stopped them and told them I wasn't interested when they told me the pay rate. Maybe it's common for airports internationally (maybe not per se but more commonly)?
Either way it's not the most highly skilled work without a doubt.... except for the pilots but even then with all the autopil...just kidding
At least they haven't given bin men the freedom to grope us before taking our rubbish....yet :/