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Started by Shana A, December 26, 2010, 08:40:08 AM

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Shana A

Pope decries growing 'Christianophobia' in Europe

By PHILIP PULLELLA, REUTERS

http://www.niagarafallsreview.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2904355&auth=PHILIP%20PULLELLA,%20REUTERS   

VATICAN CITY -- Pope Benedict voiced the Catholic Church's deep concern over "hostility and prejudice" against Christianity in Europe last week, saying creeping secularism was just as bad as religious fanaticism.

In the message for the Roman Catholic Church's World Day of Peace, marked on Jan. 1, he also reiterated recent condemnations of lack of religious freedom in countries in the Middle East where Christians are a minority, such as Iraq and Saudi Arabia.

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The Vatican criticized plans to propose legislation in Britain -- known as the Equality Bill -- that could force churches to hire homosexuals or transsexuals.
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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CaitJ

Quotesaying creeping secularism was just as bad as religious fanaticism.

Because we see so many Christians killed in the name of secularism, amirite?
Just the other day I saw Richard Dawkins protesting the funeral of a dead Christian soldier and molesting young boys! Oh wait...
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Janet_Girl

QuoteA Vatican official presenting the message told a news conference that between 200 million and 300 million Christians "face daily threats of murder, beating, imprisonment and murder and a further 350-400 million encounter discrimination in areas such as jobs and housing."

I think that they have to a little backwards.  Should it not be ...

QuoteA Vatican official presenting the message told a news conference that between 200 million and 300 million "face daily threats of murder, beating, imprisonment and murder and a further 350-400 million encounter discrimination in areas such as jobs and housing, at the hands of Christians."


And now you know the real reason the United States went to war there.  The good old USA can not stand it when other countries do not follow their lead.
QuoteIn the message for the Roman Catholic Church's World Day of Peace, marked on Jan. 1, he also reiterated recent condemnations of lack of religious freedom in countries in the Middle East where Christians are a minority, such as Iraq and Saudi Arabia.
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tekla

And now you know the real reason the United States went to war there.

Yeah, just a huge coincidence that we landed all those troops there in the middle of the largest oil reserves on the planet.  Hey, we can't help it if we're lucky.  As the most decorated Marine in US History once said "The flag follows the dollar."  The rest is just pablum for the public to consume.
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Chastance

#4
Give a privileged person a soapbox and they'll speak directly out of their a--.
And war is just a depraved d--- waving contest between the people in charge.

Ignore the christian victimization backlash it's just a lot of mudslinging from fundamentalist nut-jobs who don't represent all christians and who won't matter in a few years anyway. Remember from the christian point of view Jesus loves everyone so a christian wouldn't have any problems with gay and trans people working with them in the church.
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tekla

#5
And war is just a depraved d--- waving contest between the people in charge.

Which is exactly the notion that helps propel it, nothing is further from the truth.

WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.

A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small "inside" group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes.

In the World War a mere handful garnered the profits of the conflict. At least 21,000 new millionaires and billionaires were made in the United States during the World War. That many admitted their huge blood gains in their income tax returns. How many other war millionaires falsified their tax returns no one knows.

. . .

It may seem odd for me, a military man to adopt such a comparison. Truthfulness compels me to. I spent thirty- three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country's most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.

I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all the members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service.

I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912 (where have I heard that name before?). I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.

During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents
[/u].  Gen. Smedley Butler

As for the churches and religious organizations:
1. Tax the churches
2. Tax the property owned by the churches and religious organizations
3. Tax the business owned by the churches and religious organizations


Do those those three things tonight, and tomorrow morning you'll wake up to about half of the churches and religious organizations you had went you went to bed.
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Chastance

#6
I was under the impression that depraved d--- waving contest covered the racketeering, war mongering, and blood for oil parts.
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Muffin

Quote from: Zythyra on December 26, 2010, 08:40:08 AM
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The Vatican criticized plans to propose legislation in Britain -- known as the Equality Bill -- that could force churches to hire homosexuals or transsexuals.

They can't even be forced to be accepting, gods message is to love thy neighbour. love thy neighbour love thy neighbour love thy neighbour love thy neighbour love thy neighbour love thy neighbour love thy neighbour love thy neighbour. And then they wonder why people are sick of their stupidity. I can only hold these arms open for so long before they start to hurt.............................. *la sigh*.

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Shana A

Please watch language! A couple of posts in this topic have been in violation of Rule #11  :police:

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11. Foul or obscene language, and/or subjects belongs on the street. Please do not bring it on to my site, my chat or my forums.

thanks,

Zythyra (News Admin)
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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Janet_Girl

As if the Roman Church has any power to stop it.  Even the Church Of England separated from Rome in 1534.
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tekla

Foul or obscene language

No word in our language is more foul or obscene than 'war.'  I know it's just me but I would love to live in a world were sex was the most heavily funded activity and war was too obscene even mention.
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Chastance

Sorry still getting used to every site having a different definition of 'acceptable language'. Gonna stop now before i get into a back in my day rant. But I would like to end by saying I for one welcome less discrimination, even if by force, in the clergy.
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spacial

Quote from: tekla on December 26, 2010, 10:32:21 PM
Foul or obscene language

No word in our language is more foul or obscene than 'war.'  I know it's just me but I would love to live in a world were sex was the most heavily funded activity and war was too obscene even mention.

Ridiculous, isn't it. They spend so much time tlling us that sex is evil and treat war as just one of those things.
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justmeinoz

The Vatican has still to accept the ordination of the Archbishop of Canterbury as valid, let alone women as Anglican priests, so I am not surprised that the Pope is feeling a little out of favour.  Religious organisations are like supertankers, they take forever to turn around.

"Don't ask me, it was on fire when I lay down on it"
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Janet_Girl

The most perfect quote.
QuoteReligious organisations are like supertankers, they take forever to turn around.

Absolutely perfect, Justmeinoz.
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Shana A

Quote from: Chastance on December 27, 2010, 05:18:02 AM
Sorry still getting used to every site having a different definition of 'acceptable language'.

No problem! I do agree with your sentiment, regardless of how it was expressed!

Quote from: tekla on December 26, 2010, 10:32:21 PM
Foul or obscene language

No word in our language is more foul or obscene than 'war.' 

IMO, rape and murder are right up there with war!

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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TheAetherealMeadow

If they don't want "Christianophobia" then maybe they shouldn't be trying so hard to get people to be afraid of them.
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Vicky

I don't get it, the last I heard, the score was Christians 15 and Lions 0 down in the Roman Colisseum??

(Tongue in cheek!)
I refuse to have a war of wits with a half armed opponent!!

Wiser now about Post Op reality!!
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