Quote from: glendagladwitch on December 30, 2010, 06:24:08 PM
I'm always tempted to say, "Oooohhh!  Delicious Baby!  Thank-you!"

I hold them out at arm's length and say "So...you're a baby then. How's that working out for you?"

I try and pawn them off as soon as possible and am tempted to punch them when they start crying. I was never meant to look after/be around kids/rais small children.

Quote from: glendagladwitch on December 30, 2010, 06:24:08 PM
I'm always tempted to say, "Oooohhh!  Delicious Baby!  Thank-you!"

LOL. I was always wanting to say, "No, thank you, I just ate."

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww     Sick.   

Quote from: Tad on December 30, 2010, 12:02:14 PM
I stil ahve th eproblem of people thrusting babies at me.  People seem to think it's fun and cute to make me squirm. And girls are apparently 'attracted' to me at bars because I look safe (like I'm going to come stand by your for a while cuz there is a creeper over there). And some other random dude walks up to me and says, I can tell you've never been drunk in your life (true). I donno, but as a male.. apparently people percieve me as some kind of.. super safe guy, even complete strangers.

Maybe it's just cuz you're cute lol.

Quote from: Arch on December 29, 2010, 11:04:01 PM
One thing I like about living authentically: women no longer thrust their babies in my face, asking me if I want to hold the little precious darlings.

I would love for this to happen.  People always try to get me to hold their babies or stare at them in the hospital, or talk to them about how great babies and kids are.  Babies creep me out, and kids drive me mad, so, no thanks.

Anyhow, I was just saying that being male hasn't limited me at all. If anything, i'm suddenly even more trusted then when i was percieved as female. It'sodd.

Quote from: Tad on December 30, 2010, 11:21:02 PM
Anyhow, I was just saying that being male hasn't limited me at all. If anything, i'm suddenly even more trusted then when i was percieved as female. It'sodd.

This is 'male privilege' embodied. Specifically white male privilege.

Quote from: Arch on December 30, 2010, 11:43:02 AM
When my father was applying for jobs in local government around thirty-five years ago, he got the top score on the test but was third in line for consideration. When he asked why, he was told that they had to hire minorities and women before they could hire him. Don't know if they were just messing with him, but that's apparently what he was told. My dad is scrupulously honest, so I'm quite sure he wasn't making it all up.

But that was quite a long time ago.

We have the same policy in Australia.  I'm not sure what the percentage is, but most businesses and government departments abide by the EEO (Equal Employment Opportunity) wherever possible.

I knew a guy who complained about the same treatment when he didn't get the job (I don't believe a responsible CEO would give such a reason unless they are prejudice themselves and starting trouble) , yet he also complains about single mothers and minorities/refugees on the dole. 

Hermione, the story does have a happy ending. My father's name finally came up and he got the job. It took something like a year, though. He worked in the field for years and was eventually promoted to supervisor and then retired. It was his second career, so I guess he is pretty comfortable now with two pensions. That might well be the only time his being a white male worked against him.

Yeah, being a white male was seriously sucky...especially the male privilege thing, i so did not ask for them or feel that they were my due...i spent pretty much all my life from the age of 12 trying to negate that privilege.

Quote from: Tad on December 30, 2010, 11:21:02 PM
Anyhow, I was just saying that being male hasn't limited me at all. If anything, i'm suddenly even more trusted then when i was percieved as female. It'sodd.

That's because you are adorable, who WOULDNT trust you with their baby? =]

Quote from: KillBelle on December 31, 2010, 04:31:57 PM
That's because you are adorable, who WOULDNT trust you with their baby? =]

They really shouldn't, it's a large act of self control not to punt them away. Though I admint I've grown fond over my neice and two nephews as long as I don't have to deal with diapers, crying, boogers, spit up, vomit, or anything else related to babie grossness.

I love babies...they make me so happy. The other day one of the girls from my college sorority just had a baby, and we all gathered around the crib and cootchie coo!!!

Makes me wanna die <3

The only reason I am so resistant to transition fully (m2f) is because it can be super awesome being a white dude.  My therapist has said a few times "you sure don't take it for granted."  Despite gid from earliest memories my life so far has been full of lucky and great things creatively and in business.  The boys club is alive and well in corporate America and while I'm on the creative side and not fratty, I get to throw in with big wigs and seen the money flow around in a very nepotistic way.  A woman and especially a late transitioning (I'm 36) trans-woman would have a hard time getting some of the privilege I've been given.

I'm expressive so I've never had the baby problem. It might be more personality than gender.  I know plenty of CIS women who people don't give babies to.  I baby-sat all through my teen years and people give me their baby all the time...if they don't, I take them...I love babies.  Aside from the coochie-coo stuff I always need to see what they weigh, like Indiana Jones messing around with the bag of sand.

So if you're transitioning TO a white dude...go for the gold!

I've definitely noticed parents with a less than friendly look when I even wave at the kid who's waving at me or say hi back to the kid who has said hi to me 500 times and I feel guilty ignoring them any longer. I've also noticed women giving me more room on the sidewalk when I walk by them. (At first that made me feel fat. Like seriously, am I that fat that I need a huge amount of room?) Men seem to talk to me more straight forward the older I get I've noticed too which is an upside.

Really it's hard for me to notice huge differences because I have passed for over 4 years now and have a crappy memory to remember before then.

Quote from: Andrew Scott on January 01, 2011, 02:09:55 AM
I've definitely noticed parents with a less than friendly look when I even wave at the kid who's waving at me or say hi back to the kid who has said hi to me 500 times and I feel guilty ignoring them any longer. I've also noticed women giving me more room on the sidewalk when I walk by them. (At first that made me feel fat. Like seriously, am I that fat that I need a huge amount of room?) Men seem to talk to me more straight forward the older I get I've noticed too which is an upside.

Really it's hard for me to notice huge differences because I have passed for over 4 years now and have a crappy memory to remember before then.

Yeah the kid thing is weird and hard to get used to. I just helped a lost girl in a supermarket find potatoes and then realized how that looked. It really sucks that a few freaks have given all men a bad name. Most of us are out to protect not harm.

QuoteYes i know i know...it's not as "cool" as being korean or japanese

Haha, KPride!~  jk, jk

Well on the weirdness of gender / ethnic advantages / disadvantages.  Being perceived as an Asian (uber obviously Asian at that) woman, I was sexually harassed often, and in two cases had to physically defend myself.  I've even met a potential employees, who tried to hint at how I should act by because of my ethnic background saying things like "well, I know you'll be a hard worker, it's in your blood," and this one really made me sick "I must be intimidating, have you ever worked for such an influential man before?" WTF?  He then proceeded to tell me about how he had black belts in nearly every martial arts, and tried to get me to feel a lump on his head where he got hit fighting off "five gangsters."  The guy was a gallery owner, and wanted to be some pimp or something, (a friend later told me he only ever employs thin, young, pretty Asian girls for that job.)  Often people will assume I'm physically weak, or soft-spoken and will make a big deal of how I don't act like they think I would.

As an Asian guy.  Well, I've been attacked less, but I still get a lot of the stereotype crap.  A lot of the old "yellow peril" attitudes are still pretty prevalent, and I've definitely noticed people expect that they can kinda screw you over because you don't have a spine being Asian.

More than anything, the weird part for me about being Asian is that people will stereotype you to your face and then expect you to be grateful because it's a "good stereotype" or be really racist about other minorities and expect you to go along because once again you're "one of the good ones." People make me sick.

Awww Joseph, well, i do get what you mean. I am half and people dont always recognize me for being asian (some people think i am full white and some people think i am half), but once they know that i am asian...they start to treat me differently.
Like i would be at a club somewhere and a guy would come up and talk to me, they are usually white men that approach me and try to tell me how they loooooove asian girls because they are so "nice" and so "dainty" and so "fragile" and so "quiet". I am sitting there thinking, well i'll be damned because i am none of that.
They just think that asian women are nothing but "sucky sucky 5 dollah" types and it's just so degrading. They tend to forget that i am an AMERICAN and i don't put up with that type of sexual stereotyping. But then again Asian men also objectify me in these ways so i guess i can't really say much about that =\