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Being a white guy sucks

Started by Nero, December 29, 2010, 10:39:05 PM

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marissak

All kids stare at me. They look into my eyes. Perhaps this is the reason - I have dark eye brows naturally arched (and now trimmed since I live as a girl) and lots of long eye lashes. My mom tells me that I look the same now as I did when I was a baby, just a little grown up that's all, and that kids are somehow relating to me better than they relate to other adults.

I see kids in the stollers on the sidewalk straining to look at me even after I have passed them. Kids with their moms or dads at grocery stores turn and bend and strain to look at me until they can no longer see me. At doctors' waiting rooms, I see kids looking at me all the time until one of us is called in.

When I lived as male, some parents used to become very self-conscious with their kids staring at me like this. They would try to talk with their kids to make them do something else.

However, when parents see me as female, they seem to feel a lot more free. One woman waiting at a doctor's office asked me if I am a mom, and she pointed out that her kid and two other kids in the waiting room were staring at me. When I was at a grocery store several months ago, one woman who was standing nearby came up to me to tell me that her little kid standing in the grocery cart was trying to say hi to me. The kid screamed and laughed when I looked at him/her. I have no idea what's up with these kids.

The biggest affirmation that I have had as female so far was in a restroom of my office building -
One woman (never seen her before ... could be the wife of someone working there) was there with her baby. After changing her baby's diapers, she asked me if I could look after her baby for a few minutes while she went into one of the stalls. It was not much work as all the baby did was to stare at me and talk some gibberish. However, it felt good to know that people trust me around their kids to leave one with me even if for only a minute. This is something I doubt they would have done if they saw me as male.

About how much it sucks to be a white guy, I would agree there are positives and negatives, with the negatives increasing by the day but still significantly more positive than being certain other demographic groups.

It also depends on what you value. For example, when I was seen as a guy at work, my opinions were respected, but I was made to do an unimaginable amount of work. Now that I am seen as a pretty woman at work, most people do not give any significance to what I have to say, but people do not dump their work on to me and they let me go home before it gets dark (and I get paid more than I used to when I worked as male, but that's probably just because I am more experienced in my field now). Well, I wish I could have had both - more respect for my opinions and more leniency with workload. :)

Now about stereotyping ... I notice that Asian, East Indian, Hispanic and African men treat me worse as a woman than they used to as male. As male, none of them ever bothered me. As female, Asian and East Indian men seem to be intimidated by me. When I get assertive about something at work, they feel threatened. I notice that Hispanic and African men seem to objectify me. That is utterly disrespectful and degrading. There are exceptions ... so please pardon my generalization here.
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JosephKT

Quote from: marissak on January 01, 2011, 03:43:35 AM
Now about stereotyping ... I notice that Asian, East Indian, Hispanic and African men treat me worse as a woman than they used to as male. As male, none of them ever bothered me. As female, Asian and East Indian men seem to be intimidated by me. When I get assertive about something at work, they feel threatened. I notice that Hispanic and African men seem to objectify me. That is utterly disrespectful and degrading. There are exceptions ... so please pardon my generalization here.

I can't speak for everyone of every minority, and trust me when I say this is not an excuse or justification of any kind, just a possible explanation.  The relationship that America, actually not just America but colonized worlds all around, have a weird relationship with color and gender.  The 'colored' woman is objectified and acceptable exotic eye candy, her body an be just as easily dominated and rightly snatched away from her home as the land she and her people live on.  The white woman on the other hand is a symbol of that which must be protected from the 'colored' men, whether they are they are savages or quiet seducers.  She is not only a woman as the "goddess" the perfect woman, she is also in America, used as the symbol of the land which is being 'raped' by ethnic men from all over the world.  So in today's day and age when we are all supposed to be "equal" yet are so very far from it, the differences between men of different races are already strained and then you add the gender factor.  The response is a response from decades of coding and constraints that are now subconscious and they'd be better men if they could control themselves past that, but there you have it.

Quote from: KillBelle on January 01, 2011, 03:37:11 AM
Awww Joseph, well, i do get what you mean. I am half and people dont always recognize me for being asian (some people think i am full white and some people think i am half), but once they know that i am asian...they start to treat me differently.
I notice that happens to a lot of my half-Asian friends.  It's so weird, they are treated American until one day "oh, you're half Japanese.  Wow, did you know I love all this Japanese stuff, let me talk to you about everything Japanese, i need your opinion on everything Asian now."  I say Japanese because all my half Asian friends are at least part Japanese... - -;;; how did that happen?  You know, the funniest thing is that Asian men never looked at me with those stereotypes.  ??? Maybe because they could immediately tell I don't fit them?  Maybe this is why I've never had an Asian boyfriend.
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marissak

Quote from: JosephKT on January 01, 2011, 04:10:41 AM
The response is a response from decades of coding and constraints that are now subconscious and they'd be better men if they could control themselves past that, but there you have it.

I completely agree with your observation. In fact, you said it better than I could have. :)
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