For transsexuals, cost is never an issue as what matters most is looking good.

She said transsexuals would go straight for branded cosmetics, such as Elizabeth Arden and Christian Dior.

Paying RM80 to RM90 for a lipstick is a norm.

"We do not care about the price of make-up as we want to look great, just like normal women," she said.

QuoteNo transsexual worth her salt would step out without an eyeliner.

Eh?  Really?  Quick!  Get me to a Nordstroms so I can buy -er- be beautiful!

Karen

If life were not so abysmal right now I would be rolling on the floor laughing.

Um, no. 

QuoteNo transsexual worth her salt would step out without an eyeliner.

Guess I'm not worth my salt then, as sometimes I'll leave without any makeup on.  Give me a break.

Melissa

I only wear makeup once in a while.  It is very rare!  My husband doesn't like it.  He prefers my "natural radiant glow", whatever that is.  That's why I quit wearing it.  He helped me realize that it isn't terribly important.  And it is darned expensive!

When I perform, I like to dress nice and put on the paint.  Besides that, these days, who am I going to impress?  The dog? 

I do need to go to town today for supplies, so I will at least fix my hair up before I leave.

Cindi

I had a hard time getting over the need to have makeup.  I finally did make the leap although it still is a rare occurrence to see me without any on.

If I'm going to the local supermarket, then no makeup. But I do the full works every morning for the office and if I'm meeting friends for drinks or going out socially.

Used to use cheapish brands but am going to go MAC all the way at the end of this month and ditch the Rimmel; it's not doing it for me any more.

There's a cultural thing as well; many European women would not be seen dead without their face on, particularly the Italian women I know.

Hi everyone,

I recently watched a Tyra Banks show where she had her makeup guru prove that cheaper discount store makup was just as good as the expensive department store brands. He said it's all the same exact stuff and paying more for name brands is just a waste of money. Covergirl, Max Factor and the likes are just as good as the expensive brands. Just thought you should know.

Love always,
Elizabeth

Geez, I'd like to know how they came out with these affirmations....oh I see....Ms. Banks said so...  Personally I think that some, if not all, of the brands they mentioned in the article are lousy.

There are better quality products out there at much cheaper prices.  And if you really want brand names, you can always try Ebay instead of paying outrageous prices at department stores.



tinkerbell

Covergirl is fine for me.

Jillieann

Quote from: Tinkerbell on January 03, 2007, 07:32:02 PM
Geez, I'd like to know how they came out with these affirmations....oh I see....Ms. Banks said so...  Personally I think that some, if not all, of the brands they mentioned in the article are lousy.

In what way? I mean, what IS the difference between MAC and Cover Girl in terms of how it works... or lasts... or... ?

I use the cheap stuff myself, but only foundation and powder to get that "matte" finish. And a light coating of lip gloss sometimes, especially now in winter.

Kate

Quote from: Kate on January 03, 2007, 09:24:41 PM

Quote from: Tinkerbell on January 03, 2007, 07:32:02 PM
Geez, I'd like to know how they came out with these affirmations....oh I see....Ms. Banks said so...  Personally I think that some, if not all, of the brands they mentioned in the article are lousy.

In what way? I mean, what IS the difference between MAC and Cover Girl in terms of how it works... or lasts... or... ?

I use the cheap stuff myself, but only foundation and powder to get that "matte" finish. And a light coating of lip gloss sometimes, especially now in winter.

Kate

Some examples and I won't mention any names BTW :

*If you pay for waterproof mascara, you expect it to be WATERPROOF.
*Makeup which does not cake.....uh huh....and I was born yesterday, right? Same thing with powder eye shadows.
*Lipsticks  that do not smudge....
*Brow pencils which last all day.......really? you will be lucky if they last two hours.
*Non-drying, translucent powders; however at the end of the day, your face looks and feels like a raisin.
*Blushes that actually match the colors on the packaging and last.
*Mascaras which actually separate and curl lashes without the need of an eye lash comb or eye lash curler.
*Hypo-allergenic eye products which are actually hypo-allergenic....usually you will know when your eyes are itchy and become red, very red.

.....I think that's it..........hopefully...

tinkerbell

P.S.  Perhaps I am just picky...

The best investment I ever made was a 3-in-1 deal on the following books:

-"The Beauty Bible" What to do and what not to do when taking care of your skin and hair.  It tells you what works and what is a waste of time or worse yet, damaging to you.  Paula Begoun busts the myths about skin and hair care, and educates you in the cold, hard facts.

-"Don't Go to the Cosmetics Counter Without Me" Like a Consumer Reports Annual, it lists stuff by brand and tells you what works and what is a big waste of money.  Then, in the back, it lists by product category Paula's Picks -- the GOOD stuff!  (Tink, if there IS a lengthening-curling-non-clumping mascara, it's listed here!)

-"Don't Go Shopping for Hair Care Products Without Me"  Same as above for shampoo/conditioner/hairspray, etc.

Less than 60$ with shipping for the set of three.  Already they've guided me to better products (and in most cases, for cheaper.  Sometimes she'll list an expensive product because she tested it and it really IS worth it!)

And if that ain't enough, her website has semi-current reviews and rankings of new products.  I say 'semi', because she's getting tired of doing all the testing, trying hard to stay ahead of the cosmetics industry.  Plus she's concentrating on her own line of cosmetics.

Lest you think I'm shilling for her, you'll have to make like a cop and do your own google-sleuthing to find her cosmetics website.  Plus, the individual books are available through amazon.com.

Karen

Quote from: Karen on January 03, 2007, 10:26:58 PM

Lest you think I'm shilling for her, you'll have to make like a cop and do your own google-sleuthing to find her cosmetics website.  Plus, the individual books are available through amazon.com.

Karen

I found the website, should I post the link?  I have heard about her.  In fact, she was invited to The View and Regis when Kathy Lee was still there


tinkerbell

Quote from: Tinkerbell on January 03, 2007, 09:51:34 PM
*Non-drying, translucent powders; however at the end of the day, your face looks and feels like a raisin.

Yes!!! That's exactly my problem. I use matte foundation and powder to counter shine (though my skin is actually dry... I don't get why it shines a bit), but my skin gets SO dried out.. and the powdery foundation just seems to accentuate the dryness.

But dewy finishes accentuate the acne scarring (not terrible, but some).... so I can't win

Kate

Quote from: Kate on January 03, 2007, 09:24:41 PM
In what way? I mean, what IS the difference between MAC and Cover Girl in terms of how it works... or lasts... or... ?

OK, I am biased as my sister works for MAC (but I don't get any discounts or samples; she's in another country) but it's all in the quality of the pigments and binders much like the difference between cheap acrylics or oils and more expensive ones (for the artists out there). The colours are usually more intense and longer-lasting, so you need to use less of them. The finishes tend to be more matte.

However, at the end of the day, it's my preference to spend more on makeup. I've tried the cheap stuff thinking it was all marketing. From rock-hard eye pencils to lipsticks that only last an hour or so... Lancome (in the UK at least) usually do little samplers and using their mascara for the first time was a revelation of smooth non-clumpy lengthy lashness. Well, a small revelation. 

I don't necessarily believe in luxury items; but I do believe in value. The amount of cheap cosmetics I've thrown away over the years because they've turned out to be next to useless have been considerable.

For me Covergirl has been a nice medium for me.  Some of the more expensive cosmetics caused skin issues as did the cheaper ones.

Other issues:
The waterproof mascara thing.  $1.14 cheap brand most certainly was not waterproof.  The $5-$6 CG mascara actually is waterproof and has not smudged on me.

Foundation.  Cheap stuff flaked off.  CG Aquasmooth does not and lasts all day and even hot tub trips.

Eye colour.  Stormy hit it on the pigments and with eye shadow this point really hits home.  The final result rocks and my small eye shadows last for about half a year if I use a particular colour almost every day.

there is also a video in the makeup how to section on cheap makeup.  There are also some ideas on getting the most out of your cosmetics so be sure to check them all out.

I like wearing make-up, and do so everyday, well most days.  I myself use Clinique make-up, and I have no problem with what type of make up women wear, after all we wear what works for us and what's wrong with wanting to look nice.  Of course there are women out there who are blessed with a natural beauty and have no need for make-up but then there are those like me who need all the help they can get.

I remember messing around for years trying this and trying that, using this guide and that "How to", I decided to have a professional do my make-up and show me the colours and types that best suited my complexion and skin tone, and the techniques to use to apply it.  It was a great experience and I learned a lot.  I decided to buy all the make-up that the Clinique esthetician had used.  It came to $450.00, I know an obscene amount, but I'm worth it.

I wear make-up each day at work, and generally wear it when ever I go out, especially on Friday and Saturday nights at the clubs, but that's me.  I know I shouldn't but I envy those who don't need make-up.

Steph

Quote from: Elizabeth on January 03, 2007, 06:02:30 PM
I recently watched a Tyra Banks show where she had her makeup guru prove that cheaper discount store makup was just as good as the expensive department store brands. He said it's all the same exact stuff and paying more for name brands is just a waste of money. Covergirl, Max Factor and the likes are just as good as the expensive brands. Just thought you should know.

I have to disagree with this through personal experience.  The difference is pigmentation.  In other words, the cheap brands may be 1/3 the price, but you also get 1/3 of the pigmentation and have to use 3 times as much to get the same look, except it starts looking a little "caked" at that point.  Because of this, the prices actually end up coming out about the same.

I myself use clinique for most of my makeup on a daily basis.  My foundation goes on smoothly.  I barely have to use any blush (my girlfriend tried some on and applied it like the cheap kind and looked like she was slapped because of the pigmentation differences) or eyeshadow.   The makeup looks good and it tends to last a really long time.  I think I spent about $100 for a few base clinique poducts and maybe $60 since then for additional items/colors.  Occasionally, I may combine something less expensive like maybelline into the mix if it's something I don't wear very often.

Anyhow, I don't use the department store brands just because I need any extra help in how I look, but they are also much easier and quicker to apply as well.  Previously, using the cheap brands, I was able to apply in 20-30 minutes.  Now with what I have, I can finish my makeup in under 10 minutes in the morning including shaving.

Melissa