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New Year New Me?

Started by Al James, January 16, 2011, 07:14:40 PM

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Al James

With the carrot of top surgery dangling before me i have decided to reacquaint myself with the inside of a gym. I need to lose 40-50lbs to get myself into the 'healthy' b.m.i range but i also want to put on the muscle. I know the two contradict each other in terms of diet etc but i figure it should be possible to lose some of the stomach flab whilst building up other muscles. Anyone with any advice will be gratefully listened to- but i'm no good at running and i need to quit smoking(again). By summer i want to be able to look in amirror and actually be proud of what i see for the first time in my life
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tekla

Tragic because nothing burns fat w/o putting on much muscle as running does.  Putting on muscle puts on weight as muscle weighs more than fat.  Try to set goals using a tape measure rather than a scale.  If you can't run, bikes are a decent substitute, but we're talking about a lot of miles (10-20) on a daily basis, not every once in a while.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Al James

Will a steady pace on a stationary bike do it or is it a bit more complicated than that? I own a bike but im a bit of a fairweather cyclist
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tekla

I don't know, never used a bike that didn't go anywhere, but where I live being outside is our religion in a lot of ways.  I figure that I get about the same workout doing 5 miles of mountain biking that I would get in 20-25 miles of road riding.  And that takes care of the weather thing too, since the real E Ticket Ride on the mountains around here is best done in the rain.  Though no doubt having dual hydraulic disc brakes makes it a lot safer to ride the hills in the rain.  You can walk too.  A few hours of walking - as opposed to sitting and watching TV, or doing the computer - everyday does wonders.
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Al James

Yeah- i'm good at making up excuses about why i shouldn't be out walking, e.g. i havent got time to walk i'll take the car, or i need to get shopping so i'll take the car, but i guess its really just a case of getting out there and putting one foot in front of the other. Other trouble is i start getting totally de motivated if i dont see instant results so guess i'm just gonna have to get over that as well
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tekla

Yeah, and it's not just a 'go to the gym' deal, it's an entire life-style shift.  It's always walking or riding when you could take the car.  It's about taking the stairs and not the elevator.  It's about always trying to walk a little faster, a little bit further, and uphill if you can.
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Al James

That sounds like i need to be organised d'oh. Oh well theres a first time for everything  :D
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Jacquelyn

Good luck, James! Tekla is right, make sure that you do measurements because usually you see more steady change there then with weight alone. You should make an excel sheet, I find that to be the easiest way. :)

Hugs,

Jacquelyn
"Love is in fact so unnatural a phenomenon that it can scarcely repeat itself, the soul being unable to become virgin again and not having energy enough to cast itself out again into the ocean of another."

~James Joyce
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Al James

Excel? As in computer spreadsheets? Now thats harder than an hour at the gym  :D
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Jacquelyn

Quote from: James instead of Al on January 16, 2011, 09:08:13 PM
Excel? As in computer spreadsheets? Now thats harder than an hour at the gym  :D


No, really. :)

Across the top you do a column for date, weight, waist, shoulders, biceps, thighs, etc.

Then you can see what the measurement fluctuation is.  ;)
"Love is in fact so unnatural a phenomenon that it can scarcely repeat itself, the soul being unable to become virgin again and not having energy enough to cast itself out again into the ocean of another."

~James Joyce
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Al James

Now this is the point where i do my little boy lost look and some nice lady offers to do it for me
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Jacquelyn

Quote from: James instead of Al on January 16, 2011, 09:14:53 PM
Now this is the point where i do my little boy lost look and some nice lady offers to do it for me

Haha, I'd be more than happy to make a spreadsheet up for you. Just let me know what you need on it. If you don't want to keep track of it on the computer you could always just print the spreadsheet out. :)

You can send me a PM with what you want on it.
"Love is in fact so unnatural a phenomenon that it can scarcely repeat itself, the soul being unable to become virgin again and not having energy enough to cast itself out again into the ocean of another."

~James Joyce
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LordKAT

Quote from: James instead of Al on January 16, 2011, 09:14:53 PM
Now this is the point where i do my little boy lost look and some nice lady offers to do it for me

I've tried that, it don't work as well as it used to.

Excel is easy BTW. Now that you sent that hint to Jacquelyn, may you have good luck.
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Al James

Well if a pretty lady is going to go to so much trouble for me, ive got to stick to it, havent i?
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Jacquelyn

Quote from: James instead of Al on January 16, 2011, 09:22:10 PM
Well if a pretty lady is going to go to so much trouble for me, ive got to stick to it, havent i?


:icon_redface: :icon_redface: :icon_redface: Hahaha. You better!

"Love is in fact so unnatural a phenomenon that it can scarcely repeat itself, the soul being unable to become virgin again and not having energy enough to cast itself out again into the ocean of another."

~James Joyce
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GnomeKid

to just say you're no good at running is a cop-out [Unless you have bad knees or some other medical complication that prevents you from being able to run... I'm really not trying to be a douche] it just takes practice.  No one who hasn't run [or worked out] in a while is good at running.
As a band-geek in high school my mile time was the maximum time limit. 
I hated to run, but I was still a pretty active person.  Now I use my parents eliptical machine a few times a week and have an average of about a 9 minute mile doing 4-5 miles in a session.  Granted running on a machine isn't as hard [at least for me] as flat out running in the open, but I believe that in time anyone can come around to it.  Well, those of us with legs.

Its important to take your time, and start slow.  Start taking long walks... start jogging in 2 or 3 minute segments along your route [walking in between] and gradually increase those increments.  Soon you'll find yourself just wanting to keep jogging to get it over with faster.   Depending on where you live start walking or riding your bike to those close by places you once drove to.  Within the past year I've gone from getting gas once a week to filling up every other week just because I gave up driving places in town.  I always either walk or ride my bike.  I sometimes go all week without getting in my car, and I get out of the house and do things every day.

Also, start doing yoga.  Its a [generally] easy and painless way to get yourself feeling healthier and more active, as well as a great way go improve your flexibility, strength, and increase weight loss.  Best part is that its fully customizable, and you can do it in the privacy of your own home.  There are a lot of great websites with poses and sequences, as well as video demonstrations.  Do 30 minutes before bed every night and 30 minutes when you wake up, and I think you'll be surprised at the differences it can make.  That will also really help improve your breathing after being a smoker which will help make other exercise less painful.

After you get into it, every time you do yoga start picking up some free weights afterward and doing a short [10 min] workout with those.  Many websites have examples of exercises one can do [I know at bodybuilding.com you can do a search with the muscle you want to work/experience level/available equipment ect.]  As with everything else, don't be too intense about it to start out with.  Even these little additions to your routine can make a big difference in the long-run.

... wow I rambled for a long time I'm sorry hope I was at least helpful
I solemnly swear I am up to no good.

"Oh what a cute little girl, or boy if you grow up and feel thats whats inside you" - Liz Lemon

Happy to be queer!    ;)
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Al James

Quote from: GnomeKid link=topic=91117.msg660810#msg660810 date=129523897.

... wow I rambled for a long time I'm sorry hope I was at least helpful
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you were very helpful and your right- saying i cant run is a cop out. I should say i dont like running- apart from the fact that it does hurt my knees and lungs, having these two things on my chest bouncing around is enough to send me screaming back into the house. not a lot of things make me yell, but that does
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GnomeKid

Quote from: James instead of Al on January 16, 2011, 10:43:02 PM
[quote author=GnomeKid link=topic=91117.msg660810#msg660810 date=129523897.

... wow I rambled for a long time I'm sorry hope I was at least helpful

you were very helpful and your right- saying i cant run is a cop out. I should say i dont like running- apart from the fact that it does hurt my knees and lungs, having these two things on my chest bouncing around is enough to send me screaming back into the house. not a lot of things make me yell, but that does

Ah yes... the evil chest mutations.  They prevented me from A LOT of physical activity.  I often forget that fact now, and I'm sorry that you still have to deal with that.  Back in those days I'd go about a mile before giving up and wanting to go straight upstairs and take a cleaver to them myself.  As far as the knees go- If you join a gym I recommend the eliptical machine.  Its very low impact.  Your lungs will get used to it all in time, and quitting smoking will certainly help that.  I've never been a cigarette person, but my roommate is a hookah fan and my lungs always hurt more during weeks that I indulge.

I'm trying to think of other cardio that doesn't involve as much chest bouncing potential as running.  Swimming is GREAT if you have an indoor lap pool in your area [a lot of YMCA's do, and you can get a membership pretty cheap.  I believe they will help you with membership fees depending on your income level also.  I've had a few friends do that]
I'll keep my mind on trying to think of more though. 
I solemnly swear I am up to no good.

"Oh what a cute little girl, or boy if you grow up and feel thats whats inside you" - Liz Lemon

Happy to be queer!    ;)
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Sharky

You need to pick between losing weight and gaining muscle. You also can't target weight loss to a certain area. If I was you I would focus on loosing the 50lbs first.  You don't need to be good at running for it to burn calories. Remember to stretch. Be sure to drink enough water. If you're feeling thirsty then you aren't drinking enough. Keep a food journal, follow serving sizes, write down everything you do and consume. If you have a smart phone you will be able to find an app for this.
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tekla

You don't need to be good at running for it to burn calories.

True that, matter of fact the worse you run the more calories you burn, as you get better you work more efficiently and burn less.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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