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Started by okydoky, January 25, 2011, 08:57:04 PM

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okydoky

Hey everyone! Ok, so this is my first post and will be my first experience owning a dick, so I'd like you guys to help me.

Like many before me, I'm looking to buy myself a new set of genitalia :) Being that dicks are an interesting sort, it seems I'll need a minimum of two - for everyday wear/packing (and maybe even pissing), and for play/sex.

For play - I'd hate to use a strap on - so is there any way to be able to be completely 100% naked and just use my dick hands-free? I've seen those "suction cup didoes" - do those stick to people, or is it just for smoother surfaces like glass, etc? Recently someone wrote about the Vac-u-locks and everyone was talking about the harnesses, etc. I saw this - http://www.amazon.com/Doc-Johnson-Vac-u-lock-Suction-Clear/dp/B00162S422/ref=pd_sim_hpc_1 - and was wondering whether it might work on its own (obviously with a dick attached). If not, I guess I'll HAVE to look into a harness, but I'm really not into leather/kink and stuff and hate that most harnesses have a lot of material. If I absolutely had to use a harness, it seems like the SpareParts joque would be nice, but that's more money than I can give for a dick right now, let alone just a harness. So, any suggestions would be welcome. Oh, and another important issue - I'd like the dick to rub against me for stimulation and not be too uncomfortable - so I don't know what the best solution for this is (if relevant - I'm pre-T) - the whole suction cup idea (if that works at all), harness, or just sticking it through your underwear?

Next, we move on to packers..I've seen a few popping up (obviously not literally :P) in various places, and I'm not sure which is best. I'd like something around the range of 3.5-4" but not something in a ridiculous pink colour (ideally, I'd like the vanilla type colour). I'm sure a lot of you have tons of experience with various packers, so feedback would be nice.

STPs - I don't think I'll get a straight answer here since it seems that what works for one guy is a complete failure for another, and vice versa. So, I guess I'll have to play with that. I think I'll first go out and buy a medicine spoon and practice with that and see how it goes, and then move on to packing STPs - either making my own, or ordering one, I'll have to see. But hey, if anyone knows of an STP that's comfortable to pack all day (inside a packer) and easy to use one-handed at a urinal (i.e. without much adjusting or spills), I think everyone would love to know about it.

I guess that's about it. A pretty big factor in all this is also money, especially since shipping/customs will almost definitely add up for me (I'm in Croatia - and I don't think there are packers ANYWHERE - and all the sex shops carry cheap or unrealistic "didoes").
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xAndrewx

Well man welcome to the site  :icon_wave:

The search for a workable pack/play/stp in one has come up none for me as well. I started out with a cheap 5" from early2bed which works alright for me. Color isn't brilliant but it's cheap and it works. It's also easy to put a hole in to create an stp out of it. Not sure what would work best to create an stp since I've only gotten to the step of putting a hole through it and that is it. Shipping was discrete enough for me so all in all I'd recommend them. Also they have some play models.

okydoky

Thanks for the welcome, and the reply :)

Yeah, I definitely don't expect to find a 3-in-1 deal (pack, play, STP) - at least not for less than hundreds of dollars. Hence why I do ask about each of them separately - the only thing I'd really like to have combined is the STP with the packer. But the "play" dick I did think would be separate. If only I could find one to my liking that doesn't cost a fortune.
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Robert Scott

I have a barely there harness & reallly I don't notice it when I am having sex.  Most harnesses have this leather thing behind the base of the dildo...I took mine off so the base of the dildo rubs against me --- totally love my harness & dildo --- it's the only thing that get me to reach an orgasm.  I wear that with my binder and I kinda feel like I shoud.   

I don't pack as of yet .... my wife is still working on me being trans and is not ready to have me have a package there yet.  However, when I do get mine I am going with the transwear site -- they have packers and underwear with pockets to hold the packers so I don't have to wear a harness and still feel safe that my packer wont fall out.
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okydoky

Cool - do you have a link to where I could find the barely there harness? And what about the dildo? What is it like and which one is it, if you don't mind sharing?

As for packing - I think I'll be fine with just a packer as I wear briefs, so it's tight enough that nothing can fall out. :) I'll check out what's available on the transwear site though.

Thanks :)
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Robert Scott

https://www.smittenkittenonline.com/strap-on-harnesses/bare-as-you-dare-harness.html

This is what I started with ... it's nylon & I bought another one that is leather that I prefer --- the nylon tends to cut in a bit (I wear mine tight so I get the friction from the dildo) the leather one tends to be far more comfortable

https://www.smittenkittenonline.com/dildos/realistic/medium-realistic.html
I have the larger version of this ... my partner picked it out ... she doesn't like the feel of balls so we got one without the balls.  She says it feels like the real deal when it's in her.

We like the smitten kitten ... I live in the twin cities so we can go into the store.  I tried on several harnesses & thought I would like the more "manly" looking ones but ended up once they were one I like the smaller barely able to tell their there ones. 
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Fuji

I've been trying some new things in this department every time I'm able to accumulate a little spending money- specifically for packing, so I can't speak to stuff for insertion because my partner doesn't like being penetrated (too much info? Hmm.)

The first thing I got was the "Mr.Right" in vanilla, with the "Mr.Right Packing Strap."  It looks good, not a bad color, and the molding is really nice (the balls, and ridges and head are great.)  It's pretty nice for sucking on, but not for penetration.  It's silicone, so handy for a boil-to-clean.

Unless you want a pretty visible bulge (maybe you do), this is likely not the one you want.  I wanted something a little more inconspicuous, and the strap's elastic made it sit a little too high and I think it's also just a little too big (do biomen really have limp penises that big??  Wow!).  For a while I just nixed the stap and put the Mr.Right in my underwear, but that caused me some grief when I went to the bathroom and it came down with my pants.  A little traumatizing. 

I'm working on sewing my own holster, one that will keep it against my body when my pants come down, but let it sit far enough down that it doesn't look like I'm "trying to pack a bulge."

A few days ago, I ordered the "Mr. Limpy extra small" which is a 3 inch little thing, and the "Bare as you Dare harness."  They should arrive today, and I'll try to report how they work out.  I'm looking for something natural looking, and it says the small Limpy is very pliable, so the hope is that it won't stick out too much.

One day, I hope to get one of those really expensive, beautiful prosthetics and some glue.  I think the glue may be the only hope for a hands-free prosthetic experience.

I purchase from Eden Fantasys:
http://www.edenfantasys.com/tp-landing-url/

They have a nice selection and a "see at actual size" feature for a lot of their products, lots of reviews, and the shipping is fast.  They also have lots of promos and deals (I got a free vibrator and 20% off my order last time.  Just look for the codes on those coupon sites or their facebook page.)

It would be nice to purchase from a live store where you can see and try on and touch, but if you can't, so far I've been happy with that website.
(The Bare as you dare lists for a few dollars less on edens then smitten's, if you're thinking about it.)

Sorry if that sounds too much like an advertisment! I promise I don't work for them or anything, ha ha.

Good luck.  I hope you are able to share any good results you have with us!
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okydoky

Thanks so much for taking the time to give such a thorough reply. Hmm...methinks I'm a bit too picky. I'd like a packer that doesn't stink, isn't huge and is realistically looking/feeling. If the Mr.Limpy doesn't stink too badly - it looks nice, it's cheap...it could do. So, definitely write back once you get it and let me know what it's like :)

As for harnesses - I don't think I'd wear one...I think I can keep it in my pants :D as for bathrooms - I don't go in urinals, so no one would see anything, and I can use my hand to keep it from falling...for me, that seems better than having something tied around my hips :D But hey, you never know when I might change my mind.

And as for dicks for play - so far, my favourite is the Goodfella (judging from online images/descriptions/reviews), but it's a bit out of my budget now - especially with needing to get a packer as well. I need a binder too but I'm hoping someone will give away a used one (been checking a few places, we'll see). I'm really low on cash (student), so it's kinda difficult to make it all work.

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Fuji

You're allowed to be picky! It's your penis, after all.

Haha, it just came!  (I may or may not have been hovering by the front door. Hee hee.)

Mr. Limpy is awesome, nice and small and squishy, I love the way it feels (I really wanted something flaccid, this is great).  Smells a little...chalky?  But only barely.  Unfortunately, it is majorly pink.  Oh well.

The bare as you dare strap does the trick for me in holding it where I want it.  I thought the straps would be less comfortable, but they're fine.  Oh man, I'm so happy.  I can zip up my jeans.  Ha ha!

I wonder how long this thing is going to last.  It was cheap, after all, and is mighty squishy.  Sometimes you just have to continue to buy new ones as they wear out, though.
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okydoky

Ooo, sounds good, you've got me intrigued now. I think I might like a Mr. Limpy myself for packing. And I think I'll try harness-free first, and if I find it's not working for me, I'll give that one a shot as well :)

Thanks for your advice/feedback :D
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Noah G.

Packers: a lot of people highly recommend the Good Vibrations Sailor Soft Pack -- it's only $24 (without shipping and handling) for their 4" model and it seems that's the length of the shaft and head (i.e. excluding the balls). It comes in Vanilla, as well. That's the one I went with, though I haven't used yet because I've been lazy about getting it washed and "powdered."

Dicks for play: have you checked out the realistic ones available from Doc Johnson? I can personally vouch for their realism and it's worth a shot checking them out. Also, check out Amazon.com and see what you can find on there. I ordered a couple from there for about $20 less (each) than I would have been able to order them from on a retailer site. Amazon offers international shipping as well for, it seems, not that much extra.

Harnesses: can't say anything for them as far as for play...still looking at those myself.

Binder: do you know what size you are?
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okydoky

Thanks for the response - yeah I'll definitely check out your suggestions they sound like they might satisfy the picky chooser to a satisfactory level :)

As for binders, I'm a 39 by Underworks measurements - putting me at a Medium in the Double Compression or Large in Tritop, etc. However, I'm not experienced with these models (or any models, really) so I don't know if the measurements are true to size or if I'd need a different size. I had one binder before - it was the muscle shirt style - but that's a couple of years old, plus I've gained weight so it doesn't even fit anymore (it was a Small). It'd be cool to try a new one, because that one felt like it compressed too much - making it hard to breathe. Some say the shorter type binders fix this problem. I hear the LoveBoat ones are great but uber-expensive, unfortunately.
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Noah G.

Whoops, forgot to mention that the Doc Johnson I ordered is made from Sil-A-Gel -- if you find one you think you might like, you can pull it up on their site to see exactly what material it's made out of. Some sites have Sil-A-Gel models listed as rubber which isn't very specific. I ordered a Sil-A-Gel from Doc Johnson, and a Cyberskin from Topco, and I like the Sil-A-Gel one far better.

Anyways...I asked about the binder because I have one that I got for Christmas that was too small and now I can't even seem to really put it on. It's too late to exchange it now, so I've been thinking of putting it up for a new home on here -- I was going to sell it for a discounted price, but depending on how low on cash you are maybe something could be worked out. Of course, if it's your size...I can't really convert that measurement to LoveBoat sizes, because I'd need the measurements you used to get that one. This is the binder that I have though, and it's a size XL. Something tells me it might not be your size, but, what the heck -- let me know and if it is maybe something could be figured out.
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okydoky

Yeah, as for the Doc Johnson ones - I just checked them out, and that made me remember why I discarded them before - often a bad/burning plastic smell is noticed (so claim various reviewers). And being that my partner has a strong dislike for strong smells (she almost fainted from the smell of rubber gloves worn by a tattoo artist once), that's something I'm definitely paying attention to. Judging from numerous reviews, it seems that Silicone has the least smell issues (but also I gather they're more on the expensive side). Maybe you can tell me how bad this smell is... I mean, I definitely imagine it'd be too bad for her to give me head, but I suppose if a soft pack didn't have the smell issue, it could be used. But if the smell isn't noticeable while you're in a more "typical" sexual position (e.g. missionary and the like), then I could opt for that one, since they're really not that expensive in comparison to so many others, especially with Amazon's ridiculous discounts. :)

As for the binder - judging by their sizes, an XL would work. I'm 5'3, weigh about 165lbs and have a 40" chest (measured like it is shown), and a cup C. Definitely in the XL category. If you are interested in giving/selling it to me, contact me at haricrnkic@yahoo.com. I am pretty stripped for cash, but I'm sure we can work something out so that we both can be satisfied. I understand how expensive those binders are, so I'd definitely want to offer to pay some small amount + shipping. In any event, drop me a note, and we can arrange everything. :)

Thanks for being so helpful! All of you guys rock! I wish I'd found this page sooner :)
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Bahzi

Quote from: okydoky on January 27, 2011, 07:10:41 PM
Yeah, as for the Doc Johnson ones - I just checked them out, and that made me remember why I discarded them before - often a bad/burning plastic smell is noticed (so claim various reviewers). And being that my partner has a strong dislike for strong smells (she almost fainted from the smell of rubber gloves worn by a tattoo artist once), that's something I'm definitely paying attention to. Judging from numerous reviews, it seems that Silicone has the least smell issues (but also I gather they're more on the expensive side). Maybe you can tell me how bad this smell is... I mean, I definitely imagine it'd be too bad for her to give me head, but I suppose if a soft pack didn't have the smell issue, it could be used. But if the smell isn't noticeable while you're in a more "typical" sexual position (e.g. missionary and the like), then I could opt for that one, since they're really not that expensive in comparison to so many others, especially with Amazon's ridiculous discounts. :)



About the Doc Johnson cocks, I have this one: http://www.edenfantasys.com/dildos/realistic-dildos/uncut-foreskin-realistic

I can say with no hesitation that it reeks, and the smell hasn't lessened after a year and a half.  It's a very strong smell, such that it even lingers in the air for a bit.  Every girl I've used it with has commented on the smell, and I myself can barely stomach it.  It also can't be disinfected as easily as silicone.  I occasionally use it still because I've yet to buy something that size in silicone (I want Vixskin's Outlaw), but I do want to retire it simply because of the headaches the thing has given me (literally). 

I can however, vouch for the Goodfella, it's worth every penny.  I got mine on eBay, it was only $72 with shipping there, much cheaper than anywhere else I've looked.  There's no smell at all, and the material feels even more lifelike than the UR3.  The firm inner core and softer outer layer feels remarkably real, the 'skin' moves under your fingers. O_o  It's a bit on the small side, but the 3D balls are cool.  They are expensive dildos, but you get what you pay for with sex toys most definitely.

As for harnesses, I originally bought one from Outlaw Leather (the Pretty Boi, I think), and it's uncomfortable as hell.  I'm actually going to get the Spareparts Joque harness with part of my tax return, it looks less feminine and like it wouldn't leave the marks the leather and buckles do, ouch!
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okydoky

Sweet - I'll have to invest in the Goodfella one day. I know that it caught my eye from the moment I saw it (yes, it was love at first sight :D). But that'll probably have to wait a year or two.

As for harnesses, being that those that seem comfortable and not like they're intended for kink are more expensive for some reason (like the SpareParts), I'll give packing a shot harness-free in just briefs. See how I like that. Otherwise I'll have to start saving up for a harness as well.

And thanks for the heads up about the Doc Johnson - if it didn't have the smell issue, I'd get one ASAP. But I guess Mr. Goodfella will just have to wait until I can afford to get him. :) I'll start putting pennies aside (or well, Croatia's equivalent).

EDIT: One more question about that Doc Johnson one you linked to - since it's suction cup - I'm wondering still, if you've ever tried - are things like that possible to use hands-free/harness-free or do they just move around too much?
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Noah G.

Jake, I also went with the uncut one and it's strange because I didn't think the smell was all that strong...granted I don't always have the best nose due to sinus issues, but I can still smell and I don't even really find the odor offensive. Unless it's up close it reminds me more of some kind of baby product or lotion or something...but perhaps it's my nose. *Shrugs*

Can I ask, just to see as I've heard this has helped other people, if you've washed it and let it air dry if possible? Curious because I've heard it cuts down on the smell considerably. I...can't really test the air drying part because I have a nephew that visits often and isn't very good about knocking...

Awesome on the binder! I'll get an e-mail sent out to you and we can figure something out. I understand being tight on cash, as well as being a student, so I have no doubts we can come to an agreement there. I don't mind sending it out for less for a guy that really needs it.

A note, if you're going to be using the harness just for packing perhaps you could just use a "cock sock" -- cut a hole in a sock for the shaft to hang out and then pin the sock to the inside of your briefs or whatever. There's clearer instructions online. Also, a lot of guys use jock straps as well and they're considerably cheaper than a harness.
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Bahzi

Quote from: okydoky on January 27, 2011, 07:29:57 PM


EDIT: One more question about that Doc Johnson one you linked to - since it's suction cup - I'm wondering still, if you've ever tried - are things like that possible to use hands-free/harness-free or do they just move around too much?

Uh, well it wasn't me exactly, but an ex did stick the sucker to the shower wall once and it seemed to stay well enough for her purposes.  I don't know of too many other uses though, I can't imagine too many smooth surfaces one could stick it to that would be comfortable to straddle, but then, I can't say I ever gave it too much thought, haha.
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okydoky

LoL, Jake, well that wasn't exactly what I'd had in mind, but it definitely answers my question with a big NO. :D I mean, I've never used these things, so I figured maybe if the suction cup was strong enough it could stick to the girl parts and stay there. Someone should invent that. Suction cups that stick to human skin. And then the FTM community would surely apply that in every possible way for packing - be it soft, play, STP, EVERYTHING (although the STP one is still a mystery how it would work with that option).

And Noah, thanks again. You guys are so helpful. I'll have a lot to experiment with once I finally get a packer. I'll probably opt for the Sailor, or maybe the Mr. Limpy, still undecided. I'm guessing the Vanilla would go better than that Pink colour, but the cheap price of the Mr. Limpy is definitely a plus. I'll still think it through a bit. :)
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Bahzi

Quote from: Noah G. on January 27, 2011, 07:34:18 PM
Jake, I also went with the uncut one and it's strange because I didn't think the smell was all that strong...granted I don't always have the best nose due to sinus issues, but I can still smell and I don't even really find the odor offensive. Unless it's up close it reminds me more of some kind of baby product or lotion or something...but perhaps it's my nose. *Shrugs*

Can I ask, just to see as I've heard this has helped other people, if you've washed it and let it air dry if possible? Curious because I've heard it cuts down on the smell considerably. I...can't really test the air drying part because I have a nephew that visits often and isn't very good about knocking...


Hmm, well I do have a very sensitive sense of smell, but I can't imagine my partners all did as well.  I have washed the thing and let it dry outside it's box many times, and it still seems to smell exactly the way it did originally.  Maybe they changed the material slightly since I bought mine?  At any rate, I've wanted to replace it anyways because you can't safely use it without a condom since it's porous, and that kind of negates the whole 'uncut' aspect, since it's covered up.  Too bad there aren't more uncircumcised dildos though.  I have to admit, the moving foreskin option on the Lolajake pack and play's fascinates me.  Not $1,000 level of fascinate, however.
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