If you have time to only help with one thing please make it this one!

http://transgenderhate.blogspot.com/2011/01/nbc-snl-skit-incredibly-offensive.html

What is horribly offensive is people trying to destroy freedom of speech. If you do not like something stop watching it and spending your money for it. You can stop your cable subscription.

(I am not stating any opinion on the sketch, but rather just commenting on the "destroying freedom of speech" comment)

It's not destroying freedom of speech to, as a private citizen, ask a private company to not do anything.

(in fact, expressing your disagreement with something you hear someone say is the most important thing we get to do with free speech)

Destroying free speech would be, for instance, making it illegal for the network to air the show.  That's not what anyone is doing (nor does anyone here have that ability).

Besides...how is someone, as a private citizen, asking a network to stop airing something any worse than a network executive deciding not to show something (which likely happens daily) or an advertiser asking that their product not be shown negatively (or risk losing the advertising)?  In fact, I think the executive or advertiser doing it is likely much worse for society.

Quote from: lisagurl on January 30, 2011, 07:14:30 PM
What is horribly offensive is people trying to destroy freedom of speech. If you do not like something stop watching it and spending your money for it. You can stop your cable subscription.

What is horribly offensive to me is someone like you who tries to destroy MY freedom speech. And my freedom to protest.

I'm...not feeling offended. I don't get offended very easily, though.

Certainly wasn't tasteful, but I didn't necessarily think it was horrible.
They didn't have the first character describe themselves as "a female in the wrong body," though.
The first person described himself as a guy...that's what they got wrong. 
MtF's have never been guys...maybe women in denial, but not guys.
But I also can't help but think ,"Gee, wouldn't that be nice."

Sorry. Carry on.

It won't let me watch the sketch because I'm in Canada. Can anyone summerize it for me and others who can't load the video?

Thanks

i saw this on another site a few hours ago, and shared it on facebook. then right after a friend who's a trans said she thought it was funny i feel terrible for actual trans women (besides the one who for some reason thinks it's funny), the farther into it goes the worse it got, a couple guys have beards, the airport guy looks aroused at the bearded one and i was just floored, who the hell knows how someone wrote that and it never occurred to them that no one would be offended by it.

I'm sure everyone at SNL knew it was offensive. That seems to be the easiest way to get lots of attention and they don't care if it's negative. Family Guy is another example.

Wow... there are people who actually found this funny? Not only is it offensive but I thought it was kind of stupid too. And uncalled for really. Thanks for posting Dana hopefully the company will change their mind and remove it.

Quote from: Dana Lane on January 30, 2011, 09:24:54 PM
What is horribly offensive to me is someone like you who tries to destroy MY freedom speech. And my freedom to protest.

We all have our say including the media. What you do not see is the propaganda.

I am not a thick-skinned person. I tend to take things personally when I shouldn't. And I can honestly say that was amusing. No, it wasn't as funny as some of their other stuff, or perhaps as creative, but I enjoyed the humor.

If you can't laugh at yourself, you've got a stick up your butt. Like someone said over on dA where I heard about this a day ago: if we want equality that means equal ribbing.

I saw the skit on Youtube after some lady on Deviantart whined about it on a group.

It's not funny, but it's not offensive. Transpeople joke like this all the time, and SNL makes fun of everything and everyone.

Why can't people laugh at themselves more?   

...I like Family Guy and American Dad and Sou-well, no, I only like South Park when I'm high. But. This certainly wasn't funny, it was just stupid. I'm not sure if I find it offensive. Would I find it offensive if it wear aimed at FtM's? Maybe. Probably not. But I can see why it would offend people. But...I think we should all look at Dave Days here, heh. If you can make laugh at some people...you should be able to laugh at them all, you know? If you don't find any of those jokes funny, dumb blonde jokes and the like, then I totally support you wanting to stop this. Dumb blonde jokes are certainly offensive to blondes, but they've put up with them forever. Everyone gets picked on sometimes, sorry.
It isn't my goal to come off as dick ish, by the way. I really am sorry if it seems like that. It's almost five in the morning and I'm on my second night of no sleep, so my judgement is impaired.

Quote from: Andrew Scott on January 31, 2011, 03:23:12 AM
Wow... there are people who actually found this funny? Not only is it offensive but I thought it was kind of stupid too.

It's SNL.  You expected it to be funny?

Ok, I just saw it, and now I want to punch things.

Umm i have just one thing to say. SNL makes fun of EVERYONE, not just TG people. It's nothing new hell a few years ago south park did that whole SRS thing with Mr. Gassion. It's how we handle ourselves when something like this come up that matters. Let us not go screaming into the streets making a fit over something like this. Les us save our outrage for something that matters like the transgender day of remembrance, or when something that matters comes up, this is just silly SNL dribble.

Ok that was more then one thing...

That doesn't justify it.  Normalcy of degredation does not make it acceptable, especially in a case where it is reinforcing stereotypes about a socially oppressed group struggling to advance in society.

The only thing that I found to be funny at all was the final line: "Nature got in your way, your hormones shouldn't".
I didn't necessarily find it offensive, more like in poor taste. Nor did it put any sort of positive image of transgendered peoples. If anything, it de-legitimatized the amount of work and struggling it takes to actually transition.