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Vitamins - Prenatal vs. Hair, Skin, Nails

Started by n00bsWithBoobs, February 15, 2011, 11:12:42 PM

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n00bsWithBoobs

I bring this up in reference to a mention in a recent topic that I didn't want to hijack.

From the research I've done, unless you're actually pregnant, it's not a good idea to take prenatal vitamins. The reason for this is that there are certain nutrients that are prevalent in much higher quantities than needed because some of those nutrients are going towards the baby's health in addition to your own.

Several months ago, I wanted to start having stronger nails and make my hair grow faster, and I had heard that prenatal vitamins did these things. After doing a lot of reading and research, I didn't like what the studies said about taking prenatal vitamins outside of pregnancy. The alternative suggestion was to take Hair, Skin, & Nails vitamins. I found some both at Target and Walmart that I liked. My nails and hair were definitely growing crazy fast pre-hormones.

Of course, also let your doc know you're taking vitamins (or switching vitamins). Also, there's every chance that I could be wrong, so do your own research, too.
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Debra

I've had multiple doctors suggest prenatal vitamins. None of them expressed worry in me having "too many nutrients".

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japple

Prenatal vitamins potentially have too much Iron for anyone who doesn't menstruate.   It can make you very ill or even kill you.
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JennX

My hair still grows now as fast as (or maybe slightly faster) than pre-HRT. My nails do take longer to grow and are more fragile (prone to chipping and breaking). You might want to look into Biotin supplements. Biotin will help with both of these issues.

I've never any info +/- towards "prenatal vitamins" in regards to MTF on HRT.  :-\
"If you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain."
-Dolly Parton
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Kay

Quote from: japple on February 16, 2011, 03:37:50 PM
Prenatal vitamins potentially have too much Iron for anyone who doesn't menstruate.   It can make you very ill or even kill you.
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Sorry, but unless you're taking more than one pill a day, or you already have a  predisposition to store iron (like those with Hemochromatosis) this is extremely unlikely to happen.
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Recommended Daily Allowance for a non-pregnant female 18+ years old is 18mg of iron.
The Daily Upper Limit recommended for Iron intake for a healthy individual 18+ years old is 45mg. 
http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/iron/
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My pre-natal vitamins have 28mg, and I  take them once daily. 
Unless you're a fanatic for eating liver, oyster, oatmeal and certain types of beans in large quantities on a regular basis, you're probably not going to go over your limit on any given day, much less regularly enough for iron intake to become an issue.
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I've been taking pre-natal vitamins for about 2 years now...no ill effects, and I'm not dead yet.  :P
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japple

Quote from: Kay on February 16, 2011, 09:24:14 PM
Recommended Daily Allowance for a non-pregnant female 18+ years old is 18mg of iron.

Men's multivitamins do not contain iron because you can not get rid of it.  Trans women should not be taking female doses of iron. 

You simply should not need an iron supplement and excess iron is stored in the liver and the heart.  Iron leads to heart disease, which is the #1 cause of death in the US.  So I wouldn't be too sure that you're just fine.   If you frequently donate blood..then you're probably good.  Otherwise avoid Iron!
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Joelene9

  The iron overload condition is called Hemochromatosis. It is usually occurs in people that are genetically predisposed to it. There is more press on this condition due to the increased iron in our diets such as red meats and bakery items made with fortified flour. More people are getting that condition due to our fortified diet. Read the side panel of about every breakfast cereal, those figures don't occur naturally in the grains. You'll find them in the ingredients. Vitamin D is added to milk due to the occurance of rickets usually during wintertime (softening of the bones, bowleggedness) in my parent's generation (born 1920's). It is usually the minerals (iron, zinc, copper, iodine, etc) that are the culprits. The vitamins usually not. Vitamin C is needed daily and self destructs as it is used and is not stored by the body. Your furry four-legged friends make their own Vitamin C and D using sunlight. We can make our own D, but you need plenty of sun, especially in winter.
  My generation, the Boomers, were not allowed to go outside anytime during the winter without a heavy coat here in my town. Nowadays, myself and most others in town go outside, in shirtsleeves, to do chores, etc. with the temps in the low 40's, sunny and no wind. But if it is 55, cloudy and windy, it really cuts into you. I have shoveled snow and took my coat off because I gotten too hot on those sunny days. But not last week though, the -7 temps were going through my thick gloves!
  A blood panel I get every year will show the effects of the vitamin related disorders. I have gotten no negatives on these. If your physician gives you your regular blood test, especially if your are taking HRT, it will show. I don't take vitamins myself, but I know a few people that have these conditions who take vitamins. Take care!
Joelene
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japple

Quote from: Joelene9 on February 17, 2011, 12:48:31 AM
  The iron overload condition is called Hemochromatosis.


Hemocromatosis is one thing..but not what everyone should be concerned about.   Too much iron causes heart disease.
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caitlin_adams

So goingnback to the original post: who else has regularly taken pre natal or other multivitamins and have you experienced a noticeable change in your nails or hair?
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Debra

Quote from: japple on February 16, 2011, 03:37:50 PM
Prenatal vitamins potentially have too much Iron for anyone who doesn't menstruate.   It can make you very ill or even kill you.

That's quite odd. My doctor says my iron stores are low.

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Joelene9

Quote from: Jerica on February 17, 2011, 07:20:50 AM
That's quite odd. My doctor says my iron stores are low.
That's probably why your doctors recommended those supplements. You may have problems metabolizing iron and other minerals. Some people do.
Joelene
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Debra

Quote from: Joelene9 on February 17, 2011, 12:41:30 PM
That's probably why your doctors recommended those supplements. You may have problems metabolizing iron and other minerals. Some people do.
Joelene

Nope I started on prenatal vitamins (suggested by the doc for hair/nails) long before the low iron came into the picture

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Joelene9

Jerica,
I'll leave this one to you and your doctor. Your doctor may do more testing if the low Fe levels persist.
Eat a sensible diet, report any weaknesses or other unusal symptoms.
Joelene
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n00bsWithBoobs

I'm really sorry to start the big controversy. I just wanted to express what I had learned and let people know to be safe. The information that I had found was enough to scare me away from pre-natal vitamins. Not just for transwomen, but cisgendered as well. As long as you're safe and your doctor knows about it, then good.
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