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Started by Del, February 17, 2011, 10:25:35 AM

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Del

My name  is Del.
I am a licensed and ordained Evangelist.
I have to admit that I do not agree with many here about being a transsexual. I do however try to have compassion on the trans people since the Bible says we should consider ourselves and treat others as we would have them treat us.
The reason I joined is to get some insight as to how to treat transsexuals. There was one where I work and I do not like the way the straight guys talked about her (?) behind her back. I felt that they should have been thankful they were blessed with a body that was in agreement with their mind. I felt that if you say something about someone behind their back you should be willing to say it to their face.
My main goal was to try to be able to talk to someone with few friends without hurting her feelings. I may be wrong but from what I read here many have been mistreated for so long that it would be easy to hurt or anger them. I hate to see someone always staying to themselves because they don't fit in. Eight hours can be an eternity and pure hell in such a case.
That person has since left.
I guess I really shouldn't be here but I cannot delete my membership until I have enough posts.
I wish you all well and hope if another trans person gets hired I will have learned enough that should they have to fly under the radar so to speak, I can befriend them like I would any other person.
That's about it.
When I get 15 posts or so I'll leave.
May God bless,
Del
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Janet_Girl

Hi Del, :icon_wave:

Welcome to our little family. Over 5500 strong. That would be one heck of a family reunion.

Feel free to post your successes/failures, Hopes/dreams.  Ask questions and seek answers. Give and receive advice.

But remember we are family here, your family now. And it is always nice to have another ally. :icon_hug:

And be sure to check out these links ( MUST READS )


As long as you follow the rules in the links above you are welcome here.  Unlike some, we do not discriminate against anyone based on their choices.

Hugs and Love,
Janet
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erocse

Hi Del , 

  Welcome to Susan's. I hope you stay around long enough to get to know you better.

  It is nice to meet you. I too was an ordained minister. Though I no longer practice.  It is nice to see compassion from a person even though they may not fully understand the situation they may be involved in or witness to. I wish more people would "practice what they preach"  "Do unto others......" "Love thy neighbor"  But you are absolutely right, You should treat a trans person like any other person of there chosen gender. Although you might have to invest a bit more time trying to befriend them. The likelihood of them having been mistreated in the past is great , so They may tend to be stand-offish.

  Hugs and best wishes, Roxy

 
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xAndrewx

Hey Del  :icon_wave:

I do hope you stay and learn. You sound like a very intelligent and caring person who is just looking to understand more. That is great! I wish there were more people out there in the world interested in learning before judging. Of many people who have given me grieve and been hateful in the past I noticed the common trend, they didn't understand and they did not want to. You are entirely correct that some transgender/transsexual people are upset/offended easier than some others due to the way they may have been treated but I find that depends on the person. I had hard things happen in my life and instead really I just laugh things off and am always grateful to have another friend who cares no matter who they are or what they believe or agree with. Whether you decide to stay or go, good luck with everything in your life. :)

Sandy

Quote from: Del on February 17, 2011, 10:25:35 AM
My name  is Del.

When I get 15 posts or so I'll leave.
May God bless,
Del

Del:

Please stay.  From your post, it seems that you feel that you are intruding.  Let me assure you that is not the case.  Really, *all* are welcome here.  You, especially!  You have come here to understand, and truly, so few who are not trans do.  They have preconceived notions and in many cases use the bible to justify their emotions and fears.

You came here to understand, because you feel that persecution of anyone is wrong.  God bless you!  So often that is not the case with us.

There are many of us who can give you scientific evidence and supporting information regarding this birth defect condition, so feel free to ask any question you may have.  We also have quite an extensive wiki that has much information as well, feel free to peruse.

And if you meet that trans person again, simply treating them with respect and with the gender pronoun that they prefer and project will be so very appreciated, you really have no idea how much.

Many of us are very spiritual people.  We attempt to understand God's word for understanding this "blessing inside a curse".  We do not pursue this as a means of any sort of sexual gratification or titillation.  Much like the caterpillar, if it is prevented from chrysalis and change, it will die.  We too come to the edge of the abyss, and must choose to end our lives or change.

Thank you for coming here Del.  Thank you for your search to understand.  You are truly a rare person.

-Sandy
Out of the darkness, into the light.
Following my bliss.
I am complete...
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annette

Hi Del

Welcome
I'll hope you stay, so you can see that we're just ordinairy people, with feelings, hopes and ideals, just like everybody else.
You know, I admire your honesty.
I'm a transwoman and I know you don't agree with my choices(is there a choice?) but I can respect your opinion.
The way you talk about your co worker is respectfull and supportive.
That's the way it should be, you can disagree but respectfull to the other.
So, don't leave but stay, to see to listen and to learn.

hug
annette
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Cindy

Dear Del,

Welcome and as others have said you are truly welcome and I hope you stay so that we can learn from you and you from us. I gave up religion when I was told that God would never forgive me for being a woman. I was thirteen. I am a woman.  I don't get into religious debates because I think it is very important that those who believe in any particular religion have the full support of the community to follow it.  I also detest racism, ageism and sexism.  But I find them more prevalent in the so called 'normal' communities than those I live in.

Being transgendered isn't an option. I certainly didn't choose it. I have never met a transgendered person who did not desire to have been born as a 'normal' person. Many of us have lost everything, our jobs, our families, our friends and our future. But we keep going. We are either very strange or it is a very true condition.  From many studies it is a very true condition.

As for the 'normal' people, I was gang raped at 16 when presenting as female with other girls from my school at a school disco, a Catholic school. They set me up so that there boyfriends could teach me what being female was. They then effectively castrated me. All to the cheers of their girl friends.

I'm not in the least bitter. I have forgiven them. I still don't understand them.

I live in South Australia, we have members from all around the world. Being a freak must be independently international.

Love and Hugs, and thank you for posting. I do hope you stay around.

Cindy
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Del

I would like to thank you all for your kind answers.
Cindy James, I am sorry that some could be so heartless at such a young age but I guess hate breeds hate with no respect of age or country in which one lives. I do admire your willingness to forgive. Talk is cheap but when you can actually forgive something like that I find that willingness to forgive very admirable.
From what I see transsexuals are not quite what I believed at first. I would imagine that just like straight people there are the loving, the bitter, the hateful, the forgiving, the unforgiving, the ones who love God and those who don't. The spiritually ignorant and the ones that have a sensitivity to the leading of the Spirit of God. The same wide variety of people who have been hurt, shunned, hated, loved and accepted with us who have been what the world would deem normal. For a lack of better words.
As a non denominational Christian I am shunned by many that call themselves Christians because I would and will not allow the doctrines of man to come before the Word of God. In that I can relate to shunning and hatred. The truth always seems to hurt and cause hatred from those who choose to believe what they want or what fits their personal agenda. I too choose to forgive them as I personally find exhortation of the flocks better than hatred and harboring ill feelings.
Once again, thank you all for your kind answers.
I wish you all well whether I stay or go.
Del
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