Just extremely curious! It has been really strange/fascinating for me so far; the extent of my singing experience is high school ensembles but lately I've been singing just to see what has changed. I'm 2.5 months on T and prior to that my range was something like F3 - B5 and now it's around F2 - E4 with some weird falsetto thing above that which I definitely never had before. It feels weird and sounds terrible.

Am I the only person to be thoroughly entertained by this?

I can't sing, but everyones signing voice will change on T.

I don't know how to explain the note range that I've had with technical words so I'll explain it as I know how.

When my voice started changing I lost the highest octave or two and gained maybe 3-4 notes lower. My range was squished to the point where my talking voice and singing voice were the same. I can't control my falsetto type voice at all.

great thread! I enjoy singing, and I'm curious to know what to expect once I get on T...
also secretely I can yodel very curious to hear THAT

That's my main concern with T... I'm really big on singing, and I don't know what I'd do if I lost my ability to sing...music is just as much a part of me as my identity is.

Quote from: FebruaryFalls on March 04, 2011, 08:22:57 PM
That's my main concern with T... I'm really big on singing, and I don't know what I'd do if I lost my ability to sing...music is just as much a part of me as my identity is.

It's more of a temporary loss. There are lots of people that have taken T (to transition) and are/were singers.
Example:

Nygeel has it right. Think about when guys go through puberty. Their voices crack so they have to adjust in order to get used to their new range and such.

Currently I haven't gained range at all but I've lost my soprano range pretty much entirely so I can't wait to move past that but I know eventually I will and I look forward to being able to sing with my voice as it should be

My lower range gained a few extra notes at first, without much upper range loss... it kept growing with just a slight loss and crackliness in high notes, until 2 months when I suddenly discovered the upper octave was shot. I've been able to gain back some of it, slowly, and I have occasional falsetto that is entirely uncontrollable for now. Mom keeps asking me to sing Mika songs so she can entertain herself, and it sounds so ridiculous that it's really quite funny. 

I find I'm able to more efficiently switch between chest voice and head voice, and I have more notes in both, and more control - because before I could only sing really high, soft notes, and coarse sounding mid notes. No idea what notes in particular though, I just sing for fun. But because I was trying to shove my voice into a male range before, and now I actually have a (pubescent, shaky, and untrained) male range, it's an improvement.

So overall, it's cool, and fascinating, and weird, and funny. I definitely prefer my crackly male voice to the one I had before.

This may be a totally naive question, but is it possible for your singing voice to change for the better?

Quote from: Michael James on March 05, 2011, 12:34:19 AM
This may be a totally naive question, but is it possible for your singing voice to change for the better?

My singing voice has definitely changed for the better...oh, wait, I think you mean something different.

Probably.

My singing voice wasn't bad at all, but when my voice started to change, I quitted singing. Now that my voice has settled a bit, I have to learn to sing again. Since the voice I have now has nothing to do with the voice I had before...

I can control falsetto quite well though, since I already used it before.... Sigur Ros will keep us warm on this

I enjoy singing, but I'm not good at it. T narrowed my range a lot. I've found that I can sing a small selection of songs within that range quite well though, so I actually feel it's improved my voice.

Quote from: Michael James on March 05, 2011, 12:34:19 AM
This may be a totally naive question, but is it possible for your singing voice to change for the better?

I think Lucas Silveira's has improved, even though he lost range. And like I said, mine has. In quality, mostly. But I think I also have a wider range and I'm more on key in some places.

Quote from: Nikolai_S on March 05, 2011, 02:01:10 PM
I think Lucas Silveira's has improved, even though he lost range.

Silveira pisses me off. That whole "I'm unable to go on T" business and his ignorance about T and voice. Maybe it's not his fault he was kind of a poster child for trans men, but I don't think he should have been spreading around his misinformation as if it were fact. And repackaging his choice not to take T as an inability to take T.

Quote from: Michael James on March 05, 2011, 12:34:19 AM
This may be a totally naive question, but is it possible for your singing voice to change for the better?

my singing voices has definitely gotten better on T, but thats most likely due to how horrible of a singer i was before T . hehe

Quote from: Arch on March 05, 2011, 03:13:26 PM
Silveira pisses me off. That whole "I'm unable to go on T" business and his ignorance about T and voice. Maybe it's not his fault he was kind of a poster child for trans men, but I don't think he should have been spreading around his misinformation as if it were fact. And repackaging his choice not to take T as an inability to take T.

He himself had been misinformed about the matter, so it wasn't exactly his fault. Everyone he spoke to told him it was unknown what would happen and it could/probably would ruin his voice. He was also completely clear that his concern about the effect it would have on his voice was the reason he wasn't going to start testosterone. He kept investigating the matter, and when he discovered it wouldn't be the end of his singing, he went ahead with it and told people he had been misinformed.

It took some time to get my singing voice back to the comfort range I had (after all, even though feminine I LOVED my singing voice).... and what do you know? I have a higher span of range now. I can hit really low notes AS well as the high ones.

Just some practicing and singing your heart out in the car can really help bring it all back. :3