they're not welcome on my island either 

if i had a little more freedom of gender expression maybe i wouldn't be in the pickle i am now   

good on the parents for allowing this child to chance to explore themself

Keep them off my island too.

muy suggestion, send them to the moon, with limited oxygen 

Quote from: juliekins on March 04, 2011, 01:01:02 PM

My question still stands-where can we send all of these bigoted parents? Which island in the middle of the ocean?

One of the local columnists in the paper had a Christmas list of things that bothered him during the holidays. One of them was: "If your 5-year old boy wants a Barbie set, instead of GI Joe, it is not him that has the issues".  Well said!
  We must be open still to those parents that think their child must be guided in such a manner.  Some do turn around their thinking as the child grows.  Back in the time of Jesus, all the small children of both sexes did wear the same clothes, no differentiation.  It had to do with the economics at that time, no fashion sense, except for the rich.  The differentiation of dress came as the children got older and was according to the local laws and customs. 
  Remember, we're the ones on this island!  We should be careful when judging people on raising their small children!  It is and always will be one of the hottest subjects discussed.  People have been killed over this subject. 
  My mom was a divorced, working mother of four.  I got one of those nasty-grams from my fifth-grade teacher to take home for a parent-teacher conference on my 'conduct' in class.  Well, I tried to throw away that note, but some rat in my class retrieved it and sent it home with my brother.  She went to the conference (this was a Fri night) and came back home and I was expecting a double whup'n followed by a grounding.  She said, "just go to bed".  The next day, my mom had the aunts over for the usual coffee.  She was almost in tears when she told them that my teacher wanted "Rubber-stamp children and (I) should be placed in Special-Ed".  She said " All of my children are different and I DON'T RAISE RUBBER-STAMP CHILDREN and MY SON IS NOT A RETARD"!  She was a conservative Republican and yet, she was progressive in raising us.  We still had to dress up for church though.  I was a model student with perfect attendance records since them.  I knew that if I had a legitimate problem with any of my teachers, she would back me!  I was the dyslexic (this condition was unknown until my last semester) C-average student that almost aced the 11th grade PSAT. Go figure. 
  Joelene.

Quote from: juliekins on March 04, 2011, 01:01:02 PM

My question still stands-where can we send all of these bigoted parents? Which island in the middle of the ocean?

If I understand correctly, there is an island in the middle of the lake of fire in hell that will gladly take them in 

I think the supportive parents in the video are awesome...

The article definitely was poorly written by someone who is obviously a bit on the bigoted side of things themselves

As far as supportive parents, away from the media spotlight, they often privately admit they're hoping (expecting) its just a phase.  I wonder if they're as supportive when conversations turn to puberty blockers and HRT?

Quote from: regan on March 05, 2011, 02:55:03 PM
As far as supportive parents, away from the media spotlight, they often privately admit they're hoping (expecting) its just a phase.  I wonder if they're as supportive when conversations turn to puberty blockers and HRT?

The parents will wonder and always will all the way to the grave.  The puberty blockers are new and it's designed to give more time for decision.
Joelene

Quote from: Joelene9 on March 05, 2011, 05:43:11 PM
  The parents will wonder and always will all the way to the grave. 

I think that's just a tad overly broad.  What happens when their happy, well adjusted post-op child thanks them for allow them to express themselves from such an early age.  I'd certainly stop wondering at that point.

A poem that I read in college, and thought about often as I raised my children (by myself) puts it this way as far as parents and children go,

"You may house their bodies but not their souls
For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow which you cannot
visit, even in your dreams" 

(The Prophet, On Children, by Khalil Gibran)

This has always struck me as being VERY meaningful to the rearing of transgender children.  Our souls are in a place where our parents or others cannot fully understand exists.  If Haley's parents can keep this in mind, they will be content.

Both my Grandmother (aged 96) and my Mom (aged 62) told me this just before they passed away. They said that they worry about their grown children even if they were content with their situations and that was their job!  Not broad enough, I suppose.
Joelene

Quote from: Vicky on March 05, 2011, 11:52:02 PM

"You may house their bodies but not their souls
For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow which you cannot
visit, even in your dreams" 

That is a great poem.

Quote from: Joelene9 on March 06, 2011, 12:09:43 AM
Both my Grandmother (aged 96) and my Mom (aged 62) told me this just before they passed away. They said that they worry about their grown children even if they were content with their situations and that was their job!  Not broad enough, I suppose.
Joelene

Your original post cited a single reason (early transition) that would cause parents to worry.  What you're now describing is just good parenting.  Of course parents are going to worry about their grown children, even their (formerly) male bodied daughters and it has nothing to do with early transition and everything to do with them just being their children.