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Just Ranting!!!!

Started by BrandonJames, March 20, 2011, 10:20:24 PM

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BrandonJames

         
            In Ca I have just found out that you have to submit your new name in a local newspaper and have it run once a week for 4 weeks!

        Ummmm.....Does this seem right to you, its not like we are going to request a name change every other week.  I thought at first they were just pullin my leg and messin with me but no, its true alright. I wanted to look to see if i could change it without getting a note from my dr. and I found this.

     Just Ranting.....but does this seem right to you guys??????


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tekla

It's a holdover from another era, but there is a reason for it.
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sortofyes

That definitely doesn't sound right.  Where in the newspaper do they have a place for that and do you have to pay for it?  And this is only if you don't get a doctor's note, right?
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tekla

There used to be little court papers that existed just for the reason of printing legal notices (they are required for several things besides name changes).  It makes it part of the public record and give people time to put in a legal protest if they have a reason to.
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Elijah3291

I had to have mine posted up for anyone to view for 10 days

I wouldn't worry too much, who is going to be looking through that section anyway? And if its someone who recognizes your name, well at least you don't have to tell them you changed your name.
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Liam K

Quote from: sortofyes on March 20, 2011, 10:32:14 PM
That definitely doesn't sound right.  Where in the newspaper do they have a place for that and do you have to pay for it?  And this is only if you don't get a doctor's note, right?

If you want to change your name for any reason at all in California, you need to submit it to the newspaper.  It gets printed in really tiny print in the legal notices section of the newspaper.  You do have to pay for it, unfortunately.  Different newspapers charge vastly different prices, so you should get a list of approved newspapers from your county courthouse and then call around for the cheapest price.  The reason behind it, ultimately, is that it's their way of making sure you're not trying to escape creditors or other consequences by changing your name.

And it doesn't matter if you have a doctors note or not - you'll still have to go through this whole process.  Having a doctors note will not help you get your name changed - it's simply not relevant.  The only thing a doctors note can help you with in California is getting the gender marker changed on your drivers license. 
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Shimei Valentine

Oh wow that is ridiculous. Seems like a complete violation of privacy. I didn't even think of what would be required when going through a name change other than the paperwork...I will have to look up what is required before I try to go through it, then. I'm in Indiana, so I don't know, but this state seems to have odd enough laws that I should probably worry about it enough to look it up.  ??? That's so weird though...
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Michael Joseph

Thats weird, i never heard of that.. But like others said, whos going to be reading that section anyways? Do you have to pay extra for that though?

Kohitsu

Quote from: Shimei Valentine on March 21, 2011, 01:20:28 AM
Oh wow that is ridiculous. Seems like a complete violation of privacy. I didn't even think of what would be required when going through a name change other than the paperwork...I will have to look up what is required before I try to go through it, then. I'm in Indiana, so I don't know, but this state seems to have odd enough laws that I should probably worry about it enough to look it up.  ??? That's so weird though...

I'm from Indiana and it's true that you also have to run it through the newspaper for 3-4 weeks. I don't see what the big deal is, if it means me getting my new name, fine. (Of course I'm starting the name change process this month so I don't care what kind of hurdles there are to get it done. I'm sick of my birth name and I'm going to change it darn it! I've talked to other people who've gone through the process and it's not as bad as you would think.) It's just for legal purposes incase you are trying to commit fraud by changing your name like for example escaping debt you owe to the government or some kind of company. Just roll with it man, it's not like people really read that part of the newspaper anyways.

Quote from: Michael James on March 21, 2011, 01:36:07 AM
Thats weird, i never heard of that.. But like others said, whos going to be reading that section anyways? Do you have to pay extra for that though?
Yes you will have to pay, but isn't it worth the price to gain your TRUE identity for the public to recognize?
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Renate

Quote from: Shimei Valentine on March 21, 2011, 01:20:28 AM
Oh wow that is ridiculous. Seems like a complete violation of privacy.

It's not private. This is a public action.
If I had the details, I could walk into your courthouse, pay a few dollars and walk out with a copy of your name change.

Fortunately this stuff usually stays pretty obscure.
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lancem27

I doubt anyone reads it, but I also feel like it is an unsafe practice. Here, we have to provide a number of government issued IDs to get a name change, and I think that's enough. Someone going from an obviously male name to female, or vice versa, is highly unsafe if the wrong person does choose to read it. Think of all the "->-bleeped-<- watch" websites that were up a bit ago...scary ->-bleeped-<-.
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Robert Scott

You don't have to state in the paper why you are changing your name or how old you are...nothing but your name change.  So, someone reading it doesn't know if your mom was a crack mom and gave you a boys name when you should have been a girl etc.  Plus no other information is given so if someone was going to track you down they would have to do some research to get your information - address etc.  Plus, creditors & attorneys are the only folks I know who even glance at that section.

Each state is different ... in Minnesota you don't have to run a newspaper add.  However, when my wife changed her name to mine in Oklahoma we did have to run an ad.
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tekla

There is no right to privacy in a legal action, pretty much the exact opposite, it's the very definition of public.
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lancem27

As far as I know it isn't very public around where I live. They even recently approved changing gender marker without any SRS, even HRT, because if one were passing and someone with bad intentions saw the gender marker, it could be a safety concern. Potentially, not certainly, probably not even likely.

I really can't see why it's anyone's business other than legal folks - I'm happy to give my fingerprints and name change to the police (I am required to do so), to the DMV, whatever. But not random people, if I want to tell someone I will contact them personally.
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tekla

It's intended to keep you from changing your name to avoid creditors, escape from your criminal records, and/or criminal prosecution.
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Sean

People who are under threat of direct and targeted violence can get a waiver for the public notice requirement of a name change and have the name change sealed (that is: not be available to anyone who does a public search). But to get this, you generally have to prove that you are personally and individually in danger (as opposed to belonging to a category that might endanger you). As far as I know, it is used for people who have been victims of violence, including domestic abuse and violence.

Rob: Depending on where you live, sometimes the publication requirement DOES include more information about the person (including, sometimes, an address).

Otherwise, publishing the name change is a pretty common legal requirement. You have to factor in the cost of it and the amount of time it takes (how soon can you get it published, how many weeks are required) into the process of changing your name.

And for everyone changing his (or her) name - note that just because you've changed your name legally, it doesn't mean that your old name will never be visible to anyone, esp for adults. Your old name will be linked to your credit scores, your DMV record, and pretty much anyone who wants to hunt down the info will be able to if they really care to try.
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tekla

if they really care to try

It's not like you have to search records in person or anything.  All that information is but a few keystrokes and a couple of bucks away from anyone and everyone.
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JohnAlex

Wow, that sounds like a lot of really annoying work to just change your name.  I understand why they do it, though.

I live in Washington State, and it was extremely easy for me to change my name.  It costed $145.   I had to go to district court before a judge.  but within 1 week of filing a request, it was legally changed.  I don't even have to notify anyone.  I looked up to see if there was a time limit I had before I had to notify at least the DMV, and there wasn't at all. 

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Mark

In Chicago, you have to have it posted in the Chicago law bulletin for 3-4 weeks before you can change your name.
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BrandonJames

srry it took so long to get back to u guys, had to go to dmv today...yay ::)

I just cant beleive that they would make us jump through another loop just to change our names. i know most people dont read the section , its just the idea of making us do it. supose it would make a quick tell to extended realitives if i just clip it out and send it tho.
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