Here you go Crash, have fun.

Ummmm??? Thanks.?

What is it you want to know?  Without getting sexual, at least not too much, what is it about trans women that intrigues you so?

You said you've been doing research.  What sort of research?

-Sandy

it may be better if Crash starts by clarifying who he/she is as far as gender and external phenotype

Kate

Well I didn't have any intentions of starting a thread. But now that ones here... What the hell, I'll go along with it.

And I've been doing research on domestic violence as a whole, with the focus being on violent women, which is why I asked of there have been any CSI women that killed their partner when finding out that they are transexuals. I do know that they get violent, I just dont know if they kill them.
I'm not super-intrigued by transexuals. But I do find you fascinating.

And In terms of a relationship, I'd date a T if she was feminine enough. I like women, and if a T looks like a woman then I'll date her. Non-op, or post-op.

Hope that clears Some things up.

Quote from: kate durcal on April 08, 2011, 04:54:03 PM
it may be better if Crash starts by clarifying who he/she is as far as gender and external phenotype

Kate

I'm a CIS male.

And what's an external phenotype? Never heard of it.

Genotype refers to you chromosomes, a human can be XX (female), XY (male), or intersex (abnormal chromosomes (e.g. XXY, XXX, etc)
Phenotype in this contest is what is between your legs, again penis is male, vagina is female, no clear external genitalia is hermaphroditic.
Sexual orientaon: homosexual, heterosexualk, bisexual, and non-sexual
Gender identity is your self perception, it can go from very male to very female wt everyting in between to non-gender.
Fetishistic ->-bleeped-<-: a person who gets aroused by dressing wit te cloting usually ascribed to the opposite sex
Non-fetishistic ->-bleeped-<- or crosdresser: a person who dresses with clothing usually ascribe to te opposit sex, usually to derive or experince a pleaent state of mind. Yet, tis person has no desire to change his phenotype to look like the opposite secx
Transsexual is a person wose gender identity (in their brin) does not match his genotype and/or phenotyepe, ahd who yto soem level is determined ti change is body to matcis/.her gender ideity
she-male, a person who has changed is/her phenotype to llok like te opposie sex to earn momy in protitutuon oand/or porno
Female impersonators:  peopel who dress and act as the opposiye sex just to ake mony in te entertaining industry

There may be other subcategories, but basically waht uI line out above is all about gender, I am livinhg out all the sexual stuff out.

So, now, what is your issue, dear

From wiki:

QuoteA phenotype is any observable characteristic or trait of an organism: such as its morphology, development, biochemical or physiological properties.

I think she was asking what, in addition to your gender, do you present as?  I think you clarified that.  African american male, presenting as male.

-Sandy

Quote from: -CRaSH- on April 08, 2011, 05:00:46 PM
And I've been doing research on domestic violence as a whole, with the focus being on violent women, which is why I asked of there have been any CSI women that killed their partner when finding out that they are transexuals. I do know that they get violent, I just dont know if they kill them.
I'm not super-intrigued by transexuals. But I do find you fascinating.

Many of us end up in abusive relationships either emotionally or physically.  We tend to gravitate toward women that will accept us as trans and overlook any other character traits.  We end up as hostages within the relationship because, they can have an extortion over us by threatening to reveal our secret to the world.

I have not heard of any relationships that have gone to the extreme of using deadly force in the case of a trans woman.  I would have thought that something like that would have made a pretty big splash in the blogosphere if it were to have happened.  Have you?

-Sandy

Yeah I'm a manly XY male I'm African American.

I don't have any issues worth mentioning on this site.

I feel as if I'm heterosexual, although I do like male genitalia though. I only like it when is attatched to someone with a feminine form though.

Quote from: Sandy on April 08, 2011, 05:28:22 PM
Many of us end up in abusive relationships either emotionally or physically.  We tend to gravitate toward women that will accept us as trans and overlook any other character traits.  We end up as hostages within the relationship because, they can have an extortion over us by threatening to reveal our secret to the world.

I have not heard of any relationships that have gone to the extreme of using deadly force in the case of a trans woman.  I would have thought that something like that would have made a pretty big splash in the blogosphere if it were to have happened.  Have you?

-Sandy

I was refering to a CIS woman being violent towards a T.

And I haven't Been the least bit active in anything concerning transexuals, this is my first foray in the T
community.

I don't have any issues worth mentioning on this site. THEN LEAVE!

I feel as if I'm heterosexual, THE WAT YOU WORDED THIS SENTENCE IMPLIES THAT YOU ARE NOT SURE YOU ARE HETEROSEXUAL

although I do like male genitalia though. THE WAY YOU WORDED THIS SENTENCE  IT SOUND LIKE YOU LIKE SOEMBODYELSE MALE GENITALIA, ARE YOU GAY?

I only like it when is attached to someone with a feminine form though. NOW, FROM THIS SENTENCE IT SEEM NOW YOU LIKE CHICK WITH DICKS!

Either you do not how to properly write your thoughts, or you are one poor confused soul. Explain yourself if you can!

Kate

There is no need to yell Kate, tone it down.

In the interest of playing devil's advocate, Kate, I identifty as lesbian but still find futanari (girls with both sexual organs; it's a Japanese thing...) astoundingly sexy.  I wouldn't touch a penis otherwise.  Does that make me bi?  I don't think so.

Quote from: Serra on April 08, 2011, 05:52:13 PM
In the interest of playing devil's advocate, Kate, I identifty as lesbian but still find futanari (girls with both sexual organs; it's a Japanese thing...) astoundingly sexy.  I wouldn't touch a penis otherwise.  Does that make me bi?  I don't think so.

-high five-

Quote from: kate durcal on April 08, 2011, 05:43:32 PM
I don't have any issues worth mentioning on this site. THEN LEAVE!

I feel as if I'm heterosexual, THE WAT YOU WORDED THIS SENTENCE IMPLIES THAT YOU ARE NOT SURE YOU ARE HETEROSEXUAL

although I do like male genitalia though. THE WAY YOU WORDED THIS SENTENCE  IT SOUND LIKE YOU LIKE SOEMBODYELSE MALE GENITALIA, ARE YOU GAY?

I only like it when is attached to someone with a feminine form though. NOW, FROM THIS SENTENCE IT SEEM NOW YOU LIKE CHICK WITH DICKS!

Either you do not how to properly write your thoughts, or you are one poor confused soul. Explain yourself if you can!

Kate

Wow lady.... Why on Earth are you so hostile? When I say the chicks with d***s phrase I don't mean it in a negative way. It's just an affectionate term really. For example: Im black sometimes my friends like to call me the N word. They don't mean anything by it, it's just an affectionate term.

And I'm here just to see what you people are like really.
You sound as if I have upset you with some of my posts, did I? I didn't mean to.

Quote from: -CRaSH- on April 08, 2011, 06:06:40 PM
Wow lady.... Why on Earth are you so hostile? When I say the chicks with d***s phrase I don't mean it in a negative way. It's just an affectionate term really. For example: Im black sometimes my friends like to call me the N word. They don't mean anything by it, it's just an affectionate term.

And I'm here just to see what you people are like really.
You sound as if I have upset you with some of my posts, did I? I didn't mean to.

But if some random white person on the street called you the N word, how would you take it?  Not to put too fine a point on this, but you're not our friend.  We don't know you.  Could you be a friend some day?  Sure!  But right now you're a new person in a new place with unfamiliar rules, and frankly you don't appear to be making much of an effort to learn or follow those rules.  You're bulling around in a store full of fragile china and not really seeming to care much.  You may not be INTENDING to offend, but the fact of the matter is, you ARE.  If you want people to take you seriously and not get offending every time you touch your keyboard, start actually reading and processing what people are telling you.
That said she did overreact a bit.  But I understand why she did, and it's because of the above paragraph.

Hi Crash

Sorry that your having a bit of a rough time there... You have mentioned that you find T women intriguing and/or fascinating, but this is kinda new territory for you

I can understand you're desire to participate in various discussions... Participation is a large part of learning... But as some of the girls have mentioned, you have put your foot in your mouth a couple of times

Maybe it would be best to just chill a bit and observe for awhile and then try participating a bit more later on... If you see an angry bee above your head and then a couple more start buzzin' 'round is it wise to bat the beehive about?

Ladies... Give peace a chance... The guy did apologize for comments made that were deemed offensive

Hi Crash, I didn't reply to your intro because you said you weren't staying, welcome to the site! Your own thread, nice! I hope you took the time to read the rules, I did, and truthfully someone owes you an apology, only Susan and her staff can ask someone to leave. Just remember, this is a support site, myself and many others come here for just that supportive atmosphere. Hugs, Tracey

Welcome to the site Crash and Tracey pretty much said everything I would have. It sounds like you have said a few things thus far that could be taken offensively but having someone who is interested in learning is nice. So please don't take it offensively if some of us correct you, it's understandable to not know you said something offensive when trying to learn. It's like fouling someone on accident in the middle of a basketball game when you don't know the rules.

Good luck with your research, I hope you get the answers you are looking for. As I'm male I'm not much help with that research.