So... I signed up for the air force awhile back (October) and I'll be working on computers. I go to basic training in april, and stuff. I pretty comfortable with where Im at now. I am kind of worried of that not lasting, though. As I'm only 19. So that could change still. I think.

I was just wondering if it would be possible to get a prescription for anti-androgens, without arousing suspicion from the military. Or if I would even be able to take anti-androgens at all. I could tell the doctor I am terrified of male pattern baldness, and want to lower my libido or something like that, right?

The drugs they check for are narcotics...they do check for steroids, but only the regular body building ones...testosterone or whatever they are...and, that's a special test that cost a few thousand, or something like that.  I believe that they randomly take a few of the urine samples from all over the military to test for that particular type of steroid.  Otherwise, someone has to suspect that you're using for body building and go thru the process of having you tested formally.

In other words, they dont test for spiro and/or estrogens.

You would have to go to an outside doctor and pay for it yourself...including the medications.  You will also need to prepare yourself for covering up the changes in your body...and that's where it gets hard.

Sooner or later you're going to have to reveal that you're growing breasts.  You get a physical every year...depending on your job you might do EKG's...which means that they hook up electrodes on your chest...etc.  When they do develop, you could do a pre-emptive strike and go to the doc and feign innocence and shyly reveal and say you think you have gynacomastia (sp?).  He/she may run some tests, but should find nothing and eventually just let it go.

The other problem is covering up your chest.  You'll need some kind of "chest binder".  You can buy actual ones online, or you could try to find a woman's sport top and use that...not an actual bra because the straps will most likely show thru some uniforms.  But rather...like a tank top with extra wide shoulders (for lack of a better term)...so it doesnt stand out...white and/or grey...since those colors will not only blend in with the uniforms, but are gender neutral incase you have to take your shirt off infront of others.  Makes the explaination easier...remember, it's all about plausible deniability.  Tell them you have gynacomastia and hopefully you'll get more sympathy than teasing.

I highly recommend not doing this while you're in the military.

Again, I highly recommend not doing this while you're in the military.  You are kind of playing with fire.  If you do it, then you'll need to be emotionally strong and have very very thick skin for possible teasing and/or whatever.  Also, if you *have* to do it, then wait until after basic training...actually, wait until after basic training *and* your tech school.

Good luck to you.  I hope it works out.

Astyria.

Would taking just anti-androgen cause breast growth? my goal wasn't to HRT, just keep my body the way it is now, IE hindering further masculination(sp) from going off?

My understanding is that anti-androgens alone, like spiro, can cause breast growth, yes.  Perhaps not as great as with estrogen, but the possibility exists for atleast small growth.

I'm sure that others will correct me if I have misunderstood them.  =).

Astyria.

Quote from: Astyria on February 02, 2007, 07:09:25 PM
...Sooner or later you're going to have to reveal that you're growing breasts.  You get a physical every year...depending on your job you might do EKG's...which means that they hook up electrodes on your chest...etc.  When they do develop, you could do a pre-emptive strike and go to the doc and feign innocence and shyly reveal and say you think you have gynacomastia (sp?).  He/she may run some tests, but should find nothing and eventually just let it go.

If a doctor runs testosterone level tests after you've been on Spiro for a while I suspect the low levels would immediately ring bells.  The doctor would then most likely prescribe or even (shudder) inject testosterone to "correct" the low levels and "cure" your problem.

I agree that doing HRT of any kind while you're in the military is a very bad idea.

helen