Quote from: Pia on April 15, 2011, 09:18:36 AM
why have 4 children, why get married? why transition when you're 50 &  mess up the lives of your wife & kids to satisfy a fetish.  That's pretty damn selfish.

"...to satisfy a fetish." I find so hard to believe that any TS/TG person would you this quote. "Fetish" is used by people who hate TS?TG people to denigrate and dehumanize us, to steal our integrity, to attempt to strip us of our morality. I have seen used by lawyers when attempting to take parental rights from  a TS/TG parent.

Pia: if transitioning at 50 is satisfying a fetishism, then so it s at 20, or 26, right?

do you get more points for transitioning early?

Oh please deep down, you old transitioners, know you are fetishistic transvestites.  If you used to masturbate wearing women clothes prior to transition, you're no more than that, a fetishistic transvestite...and that's not "hate speech", that's the truth;  hell it's even listed on the DSM & ICD.  Of course, if you were not like that, there's no reason to feel offended, right?    You can hide all you want, you can claim you're a "true transsexual" , you can call me an ignorant bigot if you want, you can even have boobs & be post-op but deep down, you know damn well what you are.  A glorified fetishistic transvestite who sacrificed his wife & kids to satisfy a sexual fetish.  Now with regards to "female to male transsexuals".  Dr. Harry Benjamin didn't believe in you and neither do I.  especially the "gay FTM's...haha.  What I damn joke!    Once the DSM-5 is approved, the fetishistic transvestites, the non-ops, the "female to male" ->-bleeped-<-s will be labelled "sick in the head" for good  & guess what?  no government is going to pass legislation in favor of a bunch of freaks.  Again, that's a fact.  Whose fault is that?  Yours!!  You did it all yourself.

Quote from: Pia on April 21, 2011, 12:26:19 AM
Oh please deep down, you old transitioners, know you are fetishistic transvestites.  If you used to masturbate wearing women clothes prior to transition, you're no more than that, a fetishistic transvestite...and that's not "hate speech", that's the truth;  hell it's even listed on the DSM & ICD.  Of course, if you were not like that, there's no reason to feel offended, right?    You can hide all you want, you can claim you're a "true transsexual" , you can call me an ignorant bigot if you want, you can even have boobs & be post-op but deep down, you know damn well what you are.  A glorified fetishistic transvestite who sacrificed his wife & kids to satisfy a sexual fetish.  Now with regards to "female to male transsexuals".  Dr. Harry Benjamin didn't believe in you and neither do I.  especially the "gay FTM's...haha.  What I damn joke!    Once the DSM-5 is approved, the fetishistic transvestites, the non-ops, the "female to male" ->-bleeped-<-s will be labelled "sick in the head" for good  & guess what?  no government is going to pass legislation in favor of a bunch of freaks.  Again, that's a fact.  Whose fault is that?  Yours!!  You did it all yourself.

Pia, of course, has the right to his opinion and he has a point about how people may always assign his birth gender to him.

Pia, do you think your transition was down to how Argentinians view homosexuals?

I can never understand why people who say they don't understand write blogs acting like they do understand and getting it horribly wrong 

Quote from: JohnR on April 21, 2011, 12:33:00 AM
Pia, of course, has the right to his opinion and he has a point about how people may always assign his birth gender to him.

Well, John, that's just how gay men in denial are, have to convince themselves they're normal by putting everyone else down...I kind of feel sorry for him, in a way.

Pia - your views are a flagrant disregard of TOS rule 10, as indeed is this whole thread.

10. Bashing or flaming of any individuals or groups is not acceptable behavior on this web site and will not be tolerated in the slightest for any reason.  This includes but is not limited to:

• Advocating the separation or exclusion of one or more group from under the Transgender umbrella term
• Suggesting or claiming that one segment or sub-segment of our community is more legitimate, deserving, or more real than any others

I was one of those who transitioned pretty young. I started when I was 5 and had my SRS in my early 20's. I am now in my fifties - so I am still now old. You have to understand that back then it was not so easy for people to get help. I was exceptionally lucky to have the parents I did. Had I not done so things could have been very different, and I could have been an older transitioner instead of a young transitioner who has now grown old, but that would not have changed the internal reality one iota.

Others live in different circumstances. It is grossly disrespectful to judge their actions in that way and not acceptable under the terms of service.

Try showing some compassion here instead of always being so harsh on anyone who didn't have your (and my) advantages in life and you will find that instead of being one of the members that many here resent and avoid, you could become a valued part of this community. It is neither necessary or effective to constantly attack others to bolster your own ego. It just places you in line for an embarrassing public official warning like this one which far from validating you just makes you look like an intolerant fool.

I am now locking this thread to prevent further outbursts.

Thank you for your attention everyone 

While Pia's sentiments are not only offensive to many of us I think her use of inflammatory and hateful rhetoric - the same kind that is used by the right wing religionist haters who defend oppressing ALL of the trans community, including Pia - is truly beyond the pale.  You should be ashamed of yourself, Pia, for using words like, "fetish" and "freaks," because you ought to know better than that.

My other concern is that, while I can understand the motivation and desire to do so, misgendering ANYONE on Susan's is crossing the line by too far.  Let's not sink down to the level of those who think trans people deserve the oppression and animosity they receive.