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Nikki Araguz Speaks: "I urgently ask the gay and transgender communities to stop

Started by Natasha, April 27, 2011, 05:28:41 PM

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Natasha

Nikki Araguz Speaks: "I urgently ask the gay and transgender communities to stop inaccurately identifying me as "transgender""

http://transformingmedia.blogspot.com/2011/04/nikki-araguz-speaks-i-urgently-ask-gay.html
4/27/11
Ashley Love

Here is her statement:

"While I appreciate all of the support, I am setting the record straight: I am a heterosexual woman, who happened to have born intersex, and yes, I did have a transsexual medical condition, yet that has been treated and corrected. I urgently ask the gay and transgender communities to stop inaccurately identifying me as "transgender" because this falsehood is continuing to make my battle even more difficult. The media has picked up on this mislabeling, and it may lead to the assassination of transsexual and intersex marriage and rights in Texas. The clueless appropriating of my situation is dishonest and hurtful. My birth defect is a medical condition, and has nothing to do with "gender and lifestyles".
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Ann Onymous

good for her...she has been led astray by some of the legal counsel and other groups in the area ever since the case hit the news.   

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Izumi

Quote from: Natasha on April 27, 2011, 05:28:41 PM
Nikki Araguz Speaks: "I urgently ask the gay and transgender communities to stop inaccurately identifying me as "transgender""

http://transformingmedia.blogspot.com/2011/04/nikki-araguz-speaks-i-urgently-ask-gay.html
4/27/11
Ashley Love

Here is her statement:

"While I appreciate all of the support, I am setting the record straight: I am a heterosexual woman, who happened to have born intersex, and yes, I did have a transsexual medical condition, yet that has been treated and corrected. I urgently ask the gay and transgender communities to stop inaccurately identifying me as "transgender" because this falsehood is continuing to make my battle even more difficult. The media has picked up on this mislabeling, and it may lead to the assassination of transsexual and intersex marriage and rights in Texas. The clueless appropriating of my situation is dishonest and hurtful. My birth defect is a medical condition, and has nothing to do with "gender and lifestyles".

First i think if she is intersexed she needs to be called intersexed, however, what bugs me is that she doesn't see what TS people have as a medical condition and sees it as a lifestyle choice. 

Don't know i am bothered, at her lumping me in the 3d gender crowd when i too am a woman. 

anyway that is my 2 cents.
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Dana Lane

Quote from: Izumi on April 27, 2011, 06:48:21 PM
First i think if she is intersexed she needs to be called intersexed, however, what bugs me is that she doesn't see what TS people have as a medical condition and sees it as a lifestyle choice. 

Don't know i am bothered, at her lumping me in the 3d gender crowd when i too am a woman. 

anyway that is my 2 cents.

No, she doesn't see it as a lifestyle choice. Her intersex condition, improperly treated at birth, caused her to become a transsexual. Later after she had the transsexual condition repaired, she is no longer transsexual but a woman with transsexual history. In fact, the new DSM-V says basically once transsexualism is successfully treated it will no longer be diagnosable.
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spacial

I really think we need to maintain some perspective on this issue and this latest point and request.

If Nikki was dealing with a rational system, governed by the principals of individual freedom, human rights, American values and let's face it, law, then I may have found her latest rquest a little preturbing, simply because the principal behind the support is the right of all people to live according to their individual conscience.

But sadly, Nikki is fighting Texas. She is fighting rhetoric that seeks to create hysterical and irrational fear of impending social colapse to defend the narrow minded intolerance of a few biggots.

I do not not can I accept that the majority of Texans or Americans have any wish or desire to selectively restrict individual freedom. But sadly, Many Americans have been brought up to fear change in the belief that it heralds the destruction of the very freedoms that are symultainously being destroyed. Such are the consequences of this brand of politics. Rabble rousing, populist, rhetorical. (And I apologise for using the term, but it is the only one available for this brand of politics, nazi).

Nikki has made this request for us to take more care in our use of lables. Her case is very much on a knife edge. The consequences of her losing will affect us all, I suggest, even those of us, here in Europe.

I will happly comply with Nikki's request. I take no offense. I do not feel, in any way, marginalised. I continue to support Nikki.
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N.Chaos

Quote from: Caleb_ on April 27, 2011, 11:39:56 PM
Interesting! A good addition, I must say.

I'll say. I never knew that either, is that a recent addition?
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Dana Lane

Quote from: N.Chaos on April 28, 2011, 03:51:37 AM
I'll say. I never knew that either, is that a recent addition?

It is in the next version of the DSM that they are currently working on. However, insurance companies are still going to be a pain in the bootie because women don't have prostates, right?
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Ann Onymous

Quote from: spacial on April 28, 2011, 02:34:55 AM
I really think we need to maintain some perspective on this issue and this latest point and request.

But sadly, Nikki is fighting Texas. She is fighting rhetoric that seeks to create hysterical and irrational fear of impending social colapse to defend the narrow minded intolerance of a few biggots.


She may be fighting elements of the State but she has and is also having to contend with the fact that she had legal counsel that has a history of placing people in the box of a cause as opposed to seeking to truly represent the client's best interest. 

I doubt that the press conferences were Nikki's idea.  Rather, that is the province of some of the advisors that were surrounding her.  Some in the 'gender community' may think it is a good idea, but it is NOT something that I would ever have advised for a client in this situation. 
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spacial

Quote from: Ann Onymous on April 28, 2011, 05:50:51 AM
She may be fighting elements of the State but she has and is also having to contend with the fact that she had legal counsel that has a history of placing people in the box of a cause as opposed to seeking to truly represent the client's best interest. 

I doubt that the press conferences were Nikki's idea.  Rather, that is the province of some of the advisors that were surrounding her.  Some in the 'gender community' may think it is a good idea, but it is NOT something that I would ever have advised for a client in this situation.

I can understand that.

But at this stage in the game, Nikki is about to go into court. It's too late to change the players. The best we can do is send her our support and love.

If she fails here, then I will hope that appeals will be put immediatly into motion. I really wish there was more I could offer.
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Ann Onymous

Quote from: spacial on April 28, 2011, 06:00:42 AM
But at this stage in the game, Nikki is about to go into court. It's too late to change the players. The best we can do is send her our support and love.

The best we can hope for is that counsel pays attention to the client's wants and needs as it relates to the manner in which her case is presented in court. 

QuoteIf she fails here, then I will hope that appeals will be put immediatly into motion. I really wish there was more I could offer.

And again, it can only be hoped that the appellate efforts would focus on the elements of Nikki's situation and not treat it as another opportunity to litigate the Littleton case.  The appellate activity would be taking place in the 13th Court of Appeals instead of the 4th CoA where Littleton took place. 
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Dana Lane

Quote from: Ann Onymous on April 28, 2011, 05:50:51 AM
She may be fighting elements of the State but she has and is also having to contend with the fact that she had legal counsel that has a history of placing people in the box of a cause as opposed to seeking to truly represent the client's best interest. 

I doubt that the press conferences were Nikki's idea.  Rather, that is the province of some of the advisors that were surrounding her.  Some in the 'gender community' may think it is a good idea, but it is NOT something that I would ever have advised for a client in this situation.

It isn't actually the lawyer's faults that they put her in the wrong box. It is Gay and Transgender, Inc who did that. They place transsexuals under the TG umbrella for political reasons that serves their agenda, even against the protest from those who don't want to be in their Transbrella. This is what the lawyers have to go by and it sucks.

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Ann Onymous

Quote from: Dana Lane on April 28, 2011, 06:39:23 AM
It isn't actually the lawyer's faults that they put her in the wrong box. It is Gay and Transgender, Inc who did that. They place transsexuals under the TG umbrella for political reasons that serves their agenda, even against the protest from those who don't want to be in their Transbrella. This is what the lawyers have to go by and it sucks.


In this case, we CAN blame current counsel.  One of her attorneys is a person who helped craft the 'all-inclusive' 'transgender' umbrella.  Need I really say any more? 
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Dana Lane

Quote from: Ann Onymous on April 28, 2011, 06:42:38 AM
In this case, we CAN blame current counsel.  One of her attorneys is a person who helped craft the 'all-inclusive' 'transgender' umbrella.  Need I really say any more?

I didn't know that! Blame away! lol
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