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Started by Mika, May 03, 2011, 01:18:07 AM

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Which of the following, if any, do you identify with? (if multiple, elaborate in comments)

Liberal
20 (24.4%)
Conservative
1 (1.2%)
Republican
2 (2.4%)
Democrat
3 (3.7%)
Libertarian
6 (7.3%)
anarchist
2 (2.4%)
anarcho-syndicalist
0 (0%)
anarcho-capitalist
2 (2.4%)
anarcho-socialist/anarcho-communist
3 (3.7%)
anarcho-.... (other, not listed)
1 (1.2%)
socialist
12 (14.6%)
communist
4 (4.9%)
centrist
4 (4.9%)
minarchist
1 (1.2%)
mutualist
0 (0%)
panarchist
0 (0%)
authoritarian
0 (0%)
theocratic
0 (0%)
moderate
4 (4.9%)
green party
3 (3.7%)
radical queer
0 (0%)
independent
5 (6.1%)
apolitical
1 (1.2%)
other
8 (9.8%)

Total Members Voted: 77

Mika

Hello all,

Just curious how people identify/affiliate politically here. I hope this is a somewhat inclusive list (admittedly, it is US centric in terms of parties), I just popped it off the top of my head. If I missed your affiliation/identity, you identify with multiple options, or you feel a more nuanced term is required, please elaborate in the comments  :)

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tekla

I don't think that American political divisions are even remotely what they are - or mean - in the rest of the world.  Liberal here means 'center-right' just about everywhere else, and Left means, kinda Liberal, and everything else is skewed in that way.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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justmeinoz

You're right there Tekla.
Get two Aussies to form a political party and before you know it there will be a three-way split!

In Australia the main moderate Right of Centre party is the Liberal Party.  ???
The National Party are a rural party that are more to the right on most issues, unless it involves the Gov't helping the farmers.   ??? ???
The Labor Party are the main Left party, but are really a coalition of factions ranging from the centre to the extreme left.  The current Prime Minister Julia Gillard is a member of the Right, but not to be confused with the New South Wales Right faction. ??? ??? ???
Personally I normally vote Liberal, but voted for the Sex Party in the last State election as I like their libertarian policies on a lot of issues. I also happen to know the local  who stood,( personally and Biblically. ::)   How many people can say that about a candidate!)
Karen.
"Don't ask me, it was on fire when I lay down on it"
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tekla

I also happen to know the local  who stood,( personally and Biblically.    How many people can say that about a candidate!)

Hey we had John Fitzgerald Kennedy and William Jefferson Clinton as Presidents, so between the two of them the answer is: a lot!
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justmeinoz

Forgot about them.  Gives the nickname "Slick Willy" a whole new meaning!!

Has anyone registered the name "Liberal Party" in the US?  It would be fun to see what happened with the commentators and others, if someone took the lead from here, for a Conservative party!
"Don't ask me, it was on fire when I lay down on it"
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tekla

But old Bill (two terms) Clinton is a good example, over here people talk about him (and Hilary, before these people started hating on Barrack, they sharpened their teeth on Hilary) you'd think they were just about the TWO MOST LIBERAL PEOPLE EVER!  And they are not.  They are centrists, left leaning (perhaps, and even not leaning but more like 'nearly verging'...) but Centrists first, last and always.  No other nation in the world would have them as 'raging leftists' as Rush or Beck paints them, or as the Tea Party would have them "Marxists" (they are really that nuts).
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justmeinoz

From what I read a while ago they made money in some dubious land deals at one stage.
Doesn't sound like the sort of thing a Commo would do.

More like a certain former National Party Minister for Roads in Queensland though! Our Deep North is a bit like your Deep South, must be the similar climate.
"Don't ask me, it was on fire when I lay down on it"
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tekla

The very fabric of American Society, Culture and Economics is but a tapestry woven of the threads of dubious land deals.  Yeesh.  It's our national pastime.  Of course, the irony of it (irony being the fabric of American Politics) is that the people who hated on the Clinton's for that land deal are now promoting and supporting the Exalted Viceroy, Grand Poobah and Lord High Executioner of Dubious Land Deals, The Donald Trump.
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Ann Onymous

I had to check OTHER since you could only select one option.  I am somewhat liberal when it comes to social issues (more moderate than liberal) but very conservative when it comes to government economic policies. 

I like my civil judges to be moderate but I like my criminal judges conservative at the trial level but more moderate-conservative at the appellate levels.  I get to make SOME choices there since in this State, they still insist on judges being elected in partisan elections instead of removing party affiliations. 

Since we do not have to register with a particular party, I am apt to vote for either of the two major parties during the primary elections...much depends on local races and who is on the ballot.  Local elections are more apt to impact my day to day life, so I want to ensure qualified candidates appear on the final ballot.  I have also been known to vote against people for the same reasons...

All in all...I am a politician's worst nightmare- a voter who actually looks at issues and how the particular candidate stands on them (and whether they are willing to take a stand against planks on a Party platform that are contrary to their constituency). 

I got my start in politics when I campaigned for John Anderson back in 1980...he did FAR better in the precinct where I stood outside of than he did in many other precincts in and around the Houston area (not to mention Texas as a collective whole). 
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Arctic Kat

#9
I've taken an online quiz a few years ago -- the Political Compass:
http://www.politicalcompass.org/


My result put me in the left libertarian quadrant, around the vicinity of Nelson Mandela and the Dalai Lama.
http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-5.12&soc=-3.13

Economic: -5.12
Social: -3.13
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Waarom mag een meisje nooit superman zijn
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Mika

Quote from: Arctic Kat on May 03, 2011, 05:43:09 PM
I've taken an online quiz a few years ago -- the Political Compass:
http://www.politicalcompass.org/


My result put me in the left libertarian quadrant, around the vicinity of Nelson Mandela and the Dalai Lama.
http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-5.12&soc=-3.13

my results
     economic: 7.62
     social: -8.36

http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=7.62&soc=-8.26

If people put their scores up, I'll make it a group chart
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justmeinoz

My results surprised me a little.  Econonomic -0.62
                                                    Social          -4.2

I guess my Conservatism is more in the Menzies mould than that of Bush.  The fact that historically  the Government sometimes has had to do the heavy lifting due to the overall social and economic environment may have something to do with it. Both sides of politics are more comfortable with Government intervention then somewhere like the US.

Karen.
"Don't ask me, it was on fire when I lay down on it"
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Barbara

Divide and conquer, it seems to be working pretty good (for them).
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Berserk

It's complicated as I don't consider myself any one thing beyond "not Conservative." The ultimate goal for me is anarchism, however, I see it as a completely unrealistic goal for my lifetime or perhaps even the next. As such, I see socialism and communism in a similar way as Marx viewed socialism (a stepping stone toward communism). There is equally as much work in achieving either of those, though socialism not as much. As far as my affiliations with political parties, I'm primarily a supporter of the Liberal Party of Canada since I view them as the best balance between social and economic. They keep Canada out of debt and well off while largely working for better public health care, equal rights, education and so on. All of these things are necessary if society is to be rid of or at least minimize the social issues (crime, poverty etc.) that allow the Conservatives to keep coming back with idiotic policies that in fact only make the problem worse. In other words, I think the Liberal party is the only party at this point (though in cooperation with the rest of the centre/left) that can create a socially progressive enough Canada to take the necessary steps forward to something better.

I view the NDP as classic opportunists without the spine to put any of their social policies into place, or to keep the current Conservatives in check as was made evident when the NDP supported blocking the release of the G-8 summit report, or when Layton made his little Bank of Canada blunder.

I like the Green party, but at present there's little chance of them gaining power. Wouldn't mind a Liberal minority with a Green opposition.
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kyril

I'm a socially-libertarian social democrat.


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BunnyBee

I'm not sure which pigeon hole I should be put, but I'm pretty liberal by any standard.

My score on that test was economic: -8.00 and social: -8.15
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Pica Pica

I said moderate, but that might be the Englishness kicking in.
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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kyril

Quote from: Sarah7 on May 05, 2011, 01:46:55 PM
Isn't the socially-libertarian implied? I've never met a socially-conservative social democrat. That would be the upper left red corner on the compass - space mostly inhabited by communists and nationalists. Isn't there another name for a moderate leftist authoritarian? I'd rather not feel I have to double the length of my political label.
I use the qualifier to describe where I fall within the space of social democrats. Most are relatively moderate, especially on issues of criminal justice, children's rights, prisoners' rights, and the like; I'm not.


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Nikolai_S

Socialism is the closest I've found to describing my political views. On the test I scored:
Economic Left/Right: -7.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.36

The most significant dilemma I have politically is the balance of individual freedoms and government regulation. For example, I understand the issue people have with particularly invasive government surveillance, and normally I'd say it should be kept to a minimum... but CCTV is an important tool, and I (reluctantly) support its use. It puts me in an interesting position in many things regarding Libertarian/Authoritarian views...
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cynthialee

I didn't see my option listed.

I believe in Monarchy.

No corupt elections or politicians. Just one corupt family in charge of everything. From my casual study of history it seems heriditary monarchys produce more enlightened rullers than more democratic forms of government.
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If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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