We really have nothing in Common do we?

http://ben-girl-notesfromthetside.blogspot.com/2011/05/we-really-have-nothing-in-common-do-we.html
5/16/11
By Elizabeth

Almost everyone I know that was born transsexual is either an old timer from my era or the 10 or so kids I was involved in helping over the decades. We always provided the financial aid to the children and let some very competent professionals help them but we did keep our eye on how the kids did. We are involved from a distance but we are involved because we have lived what they are living and sometimes we are the only ones that have an answer to a particular question. Most of those happen to involve boys. Funny how that works.

It is rather an odd experience to interview a therapist about whether they are competent or more importantly qualified to handle a very intense Type VI child transsexual.  Most of the ones my friend and I have interviewed failed miserably because they did not understand the differences between these children and every other trans person they treated. I even had one tell me all trans people were the same which is a total fallacy. Finding the therapist has been the singularly most difficult problem we have had.

Sorry but what a stuck up arrogant little twit!

I mean a single look at my medical history will confirm I qualify fully as well as her as an ultra early transitioning so called type VI or V or whatever ridiculous sub category they use for the early-birds but darn it I would NEVER come up with that load of arrogant and self serving load of twaddle.

methinks someone is rather insecure and trying to bolster themselves.

She has friends   

Ok, so I am one of the ones she proclaims subsisted to later life on alcohol and drugs before acting on the fact that we were transsexual, but I know an element of my pre-natal medical history that gives me an equal or greater claim to the "born transsexual" category than the good friends of  "St. Harry the Benjamine"  (No disrespect meant to the real Harry Benjamine MD) that she represents.  I'm here now and just happy to be able to smell the pretty flowers and yelp at breast development pangs in my old age. To me, the things to have in common with any person at any age include the ability to see the beauty of life that does exist, and to hold human dignity and honor for all people, not just transsexuals. We probably can share humor, and dreams and peace in common. Knock off the whining and elitist moaning, come out here and play with the rest of us. 

Quote from: Valeriedances on May 17, 2011, 05:59:59 PM
She enjoys pushing buttons, I think. No one should take it seriously or be hurt by it.

There are very different experiences between early and late transitioners, obviously. That doesnt mean two people from each of those camps(?) can't be be friends and enjoy evenings together, having fun. It's silly.

I'm pretty sure Jenny and I would be great friends if we met face to face, and she is an early and I'm a late. So what, our life experiences dont match up exactly. I bet we have other interests that make up for that. Like ice cream!!!

The author is being very, very silly.

Mmmmm ice cream!

QuoteThe turning point for every Type VI I have know over the years is the moment we realize how attracted we are to boys.  The key here is we are attracted to boys only if we are a girl which might be confusing to some but unless one was turning tricks to survive we never, I mean never, tried to attract boys. It was and is what drove us and drives the kids today toward surgery and transition at as early an age as possible. We need to be girls so boys will like us and not a one of us could initially conceive the idea a boy could like as as a girl before surgery.

I don't think she gets the implications of this statement.

QuoteI have met few that had sex with women that I would identify as Type VI but the few I do know somehow functioned but never truly understood how. If you are truly a girl in your very soul using that thing on another girl is as alien as it gets. Well, at least it was to us.

QuoteI could never have dated any boy I thought was gay and I could never have had sex with a girl as a boy. The thought of it was disgusting. It is this dichotomy that is one of the major differences between Type VI and all other transsexuals.

So orientation is the defining factor of being Type VI? And no Type VI has ever had sex before surgery?

I'm always suspicious of people taking what's already a pretty small group of stuff and then dividing it down even further.  I'm also very, very, very suspicious of people using Roman Numerals, they frequently show up and make an appearance when the author wants to impart a a patina of scientific or intellectual legitimacy to their silly groupings.  Perhaps we just love taxonomy as a species (and we do), but it tends to be more for amusement or aspiring to superiority than anything real.  Octoroon, quadroon and other such terms arose in slavery (and note the 'Latin' base for the word, that pseudo-intellectual deal again), but despite such fine hairsplitting did nothing, as all were considered slaves.  So 'type IV' or 'type V' (How many sub-types are there?  Do you ever get to change sub-types, or like Octoroon is a permanent condition?  Can anyone be more than one at the same time?)

If I ever think of something we have in common I will be surprised.

Quote from: tekla on May 18, 2011, 10:15:10 AM
Perhaps we just love taxonomy as a species (and we do)

I blame Aristotle.

I prefer faceted classification systems, but I'm sure that's just me.

Quote from: Sarah7 on May 18, 2011, 09:39:18 AM
Ya... that kinda creeped me out. Apparently transsexualism is all about becoming more pleasing to men. Um... eww.

I noted that the one phsychatrist who has seen me in my time reckoned I was "Class V" and not "Class VI" based on the fact that I hadn't had sex with a man and the idea of anal sex really turned me off.
I did point this out to my Bissexual/lesbien Cis-female friends how they hadn't put enough dick up themselves to be a "real woman" :/

Earlier in my transition part of me wanted to meet another MTF whitch I eventually did but it wasn't what  expected... I came to realize, that I didn't really want to meet other transsexuals per-say what I really wanted was to find someone who related and understood me.

It's a small factor because what's a conversation based on that point of similarity going to be about? Compairing Hormone regimes? Sharing our deepest most painful dysphoric memories? Uhh how about no?

When it comes down to that begin trans is really a negligably small factor. Age is only superfically a factor similar views on the world, Intrests and complimentary personalities are what really matter.